Gurley's bounce-back year is going to take everybody

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LOS ANGELES -- Todd Gurley fell off as a second-year running back in a way few ever have, from 1,097 yards in 12 starts to 885 yards in 16 of them.

His new coach sees it more as a system-wide failure.

"The run game," Los Angeles Rams rookie head coach Sean McVay said from the owners meetings last week, "takes all 11 -- whether it’s getting it targeted up front the right way with your linemen, having receivers that are willing to come down and block safeties when they bring an eighth guy down in the box, if you’ve got some run-pass options with the quarterback where you want to run it versus a two-safety look and throw it versus single-high. I think it takes all 11. And the back has to do a great job pressing it or reading out his keys, because everybody is tied together."

Gurley went from being named Offensive Rookie of the Year in 2015 to amassing the fewest rushing yards ever for someone with at least 275 attempts in 2016. He averaged 3.18 yards per carry and 1.59 yards before first contact, both of which trailed only Doug Martin for the worst among qualified rushers.

Throughout the year, most of the blame was pinned to the circumstance, because the Rams' inability to scare teams with their passing attack allowed defenses to stack the box and cheat against the run. But at the end of the season, young guard Jamon Brown called for the running backs and offensive linemen to get on the same page. The Rams' running backs coach, Skip Peete, talked about how Gurley "pressed" when the initial results didn't come and often times went away from the play.

But at its core, it usually comes down to blocking -- and the Rams should be better equipped for that.

They signed one of the game's premier pass blockers, Andrew Whitworth, as their new left tackle. They added Robert Woods, widely regarded one of the game's best blocking receivers. And they brought in a new offensive line coach, Aaron Kromer, who spent the last two years with a Bills team that led the NFL in rushing yards per carry.

As the Redskins' playcaller and offensive coordinator these last two years, McVay relied heavily on quarterback play and was never able to attain the ideal run-pass balance he always seeks.

But he believes he can obtain that with Gurley.

"A lot of times you have a tendency to just look at the stats instead of the actual tape," McVay said, referencing Gurley. "I think you still see a natural runner who’s got a great body lean; he has a natural feel for how to work edges on people. And I think that showed up in spurts last year. Clearly, what he did in his rookie year, I think it sets the expectations where this guy is going to be a great back year-in and year-out. And that’s what we feel, too. I think Todd’s motivated, challenged in the right way to respond, and can have a bounce-back year. But it’s going to take everybody, and Todd is going to be a big part of it."
 

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Really hoping TG is not the next TR........The vision thing worries me.
 

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My worry with Gurley is that in his rookie year when he was successful, he was very boom or bust. I have to be honest and wonder if that was a product of him being able to take advantage of instances when the play went as planned and his OL created a big hole where he was expecting the hole to be and he could burst through it. However, on the flip side, when the holes weren't quite so big or the play didn't go exactly how it was drawn up, he didn't have the vision to adjust and hit a different hole than the one that was supposed to be there.

Then in 2016 when the run blocking was so bad that even the hole that was supposed to be there (according to the play call) wasn't actually there, he never had the chance to break off those big plays and his possible lack of vision resulted in the stats we saw for last year.

I'm no expert and I hope I'm wrong obviously.
 

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I will temper my enthusiasm once I see the depth chart of the offensive line.
 

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Really hoping TG is not the next TR........The vision thing worries me.

A question we should ask is, how did he lose that vision after his rookie year? It seemed at times his decision making was very good and came naturally during his rookie year. Last year not so much.

What changed? Was it his work ethic? Coming to LA and expecting to be a star? Or did he lose confidence because he as getting hit so much before he even reached the LOS? Opposing teams committed to stopping him because they did not respect the pass game.
 

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A question we should ask is, how did he lose that vision after his rookie year? It seemed at times his decision making was very good and came naturally during his rookie year. Last year not so much.

What changed? Was it his work ethic? Coming to LA and expecting to be a star? Or did he lose confidence because he as getting hit so much before he even reached the LOS? Opposing teams committed to stopping him because they did not respect the pass game.
 

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I gotta laugh when Robert Wood's blocking is listed as a reason the run game will improve.
 

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He may have got a little big headed after all the hype around him his rookie year. I Think it was a good thing he had a down year now he will be more motivated than ever to bounce back and shut everyone up. The offensive line will be improved and D's will have to respect our passing game now. I think Gurley bounces back BIG TIME this year! Like 2000+ all purpose yards.


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A question we should ask is, how did he lose that vision after his rookie year? It seemed at times his decision making was very good and came naturally during his rookie year. Last year not so much.

What changed? Was it his work ethic? Coming to LA and expecting to be a star? Or did he lose confidence because he as getting hit so much before he even reached the LOS? Opposing teams committed to stopping him because they did not respect the pass game.
Good questions. I think the answer may be a little of all of the above. I can tell you that TG did not look motivated to me at all last year. Not to bring up the dreaded "body language" argument, but he just didn't seem the same last year, on the field and off. Even in his interviews he seemed uninterested. Weird.
 

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Gurley isn't going to knock people out of his way and McVay knows that. Stretch the field vertically AND horizontally and use Gurley in the passing game and lanes will start opening up. The unbelievable ineptness at playcalling last season reached epic levels. Have never seen anything like what our offense forced itself to do every play almost every game last season. Just appalling. McVay will have this offense spreading the plays and the ball from sideline to sideline and into the opponents backfield. Spread the defense and let Gurley make a cut and sprint by everyone... it's what he is amazing at.
 

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Lol you keep getting hit in the backfield and tell me how long you go wait for a hole to open up. His 1.59 yards after contact is very telling to me and I take that as a good sign because how many times did he get hit before he reached the line of scrimmage, instead of those runs being negative he still got it back to the line of scrimmage. He didn't fumble he didn't show his frustration out on the field. You learn a lot about guys when they face adversity and I think Gurley showed that he is an elite back. A lesser running back behind that offensive line would have been fumbling got hurt or just quit on the team.
 

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Don't worry! There will be room still to hop on the Rams hype train after the season starts and the offense is churning out the yards and putting up the points. It won't be too late :)
 

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Gurley is going to have a good season. The line will be better, Goff will be better, but most importantly IMO the scheme will be built to anticipate what defenses are doing and have answers for it and that will make an enormous difference.

The OL alone was not to blame for Goff and Gurley both being so bad. Goff and Gurley share some of the blame as well, certainly, with Goff being a rook and Gurley pressing, but I think a great deal of it was the offensive gameplanners being in over their heads and not optimizing the talent they had.

That rabbit hole with the offense goes so deep with so many areas of fail it's ridiculous. I don't expect a top offense this season, but they're gonna be in that mediocre range vs bottom of the barrel due to the LT addition and improved gameplanning and leadership alone.
 

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Fix the line further and this is a non issue.
 

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1 The run blocking needs to get better

2 The passing game must be respected.

Then Gurley will prevail.
 

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My worry with Gurley is that in his rookie year when he was successful, he was very boom or bust. I have to be honest and wonder if that was a product of him being able to take advantage of instances when the play went as planned and his OL created a big hole where he was expecting the hole to be and he could burst through it. However, on the flip side, when the holes weren't quite so big or the play didn't go exactly how it was drawn up, he didn't have the vision to adjust and hit a different hole than the one that was supposed to be there.

Then in 2016 when the run blocking was so bad that even the hole that was supposed to be there (according to the play call) wasn't actually there, he never had the chance to break off those big plays and his possible lack of vision resulted in the stats we saw for last year.

I'm no expert and I hope I'm wrong obviously.

Who's the real Gurley? Good question. He's got five 100 yard games out of 28 (we won't count game #1 last year which was week 4 where he got 6 carries). In his first 6 games last year he had 15 runs of 20 or more yards (15.9% of his carries). That was pretty good. Since then it's just 6.8% of his carries. It's got to be better. This year he had two (2) runs of 20 or more yards and they came in the last 7 weeks of the season.

Here's his percentages of his carries by yards gained:

Negative carries: 12.2% in 2015 ; 11.8% this year
No gain: 8.3% in 2015 ; 10.7% this year
1 to 3 yds: 41.0% in 2015 ; 41.1% this year
4 to 9 yds: 27.1% in 2015 ; 29.1% this year
11-19 yds: 6.1% in 2015 ; 5.3% this year
20+ yds: 5.2% in 2015 ; 0.7% this year

The big runs early last year gave him those 100 yard games. He averaged 6.4 ypc his first 4 starts last year (after the 6 carry Pittsburgh game). Since then? 3.5 ypc. But in his defense. For his terrific beginning he had a veteran QB who was playing well. After that Foles went into the tank, Keenum was okay but nobody respects a noodle arm and Goff was as green as grass. All Goff has to do next year is make teams pay when they load up to stop the run and Gurley's numbers will improve drastically. IMHO, of course. I don't doubt Gurley's vision, moves or acceleration and speed. A better O line helps both Goff and Gurley.

I will temper my enthusiasm once I see the depth chart of the offensive line.

That's the crux of the biscuit.
 

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Fix the line further and this is a non issue.

It would be nice to add weapons. Tavon is a nice gimmick guy but he's not a reliable type of receiver to line up, run a good route and make that catch consistently. Woods can be that guy. But after him everyone else is a question mark.