GROB vs. Seattle

[Tron]

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/word-muth/2014/word-muth-rams-big-win

Not a bad article showing the good and the bad of GROB in his first start. He will learn and get better. I would say he did pretty solid, better than Joseph for sure, but does need more time and reps also.

Didn't like the pick at the time but have grown to like it. If he keeps progressing he will be a stud.

 

[DR RAM]

I don't know where to begin, so I'll just say this. G. Rob is playing well, and his clips prove that. Most of the analysis, I just don't agree with.

 

[ChrisW]

I hate that many BIG gifs on one page. It's hard to focus on the tiny text sandwiched between the gifs. Couldn't force myself to finish the article, but those were some impressive blocks by the big man.

 

[Ramhusker]

Hopefully by the time we are 4-4, he will be locked and loaded for the second half of this deal.

 

[bomebadeeda]

I don't think their synopsis was correct. It seemed like on some of those plays where he was "supposed" to block a LBer, actually called for him initially doubling the NG and then sliding to the 2nd level. And the success of the play seemed to say the same thing. I'm sure these guys know a few things, but did they know exactly what the blocking assignments were? I don't think so.....

Now I will admit their observation that Robinson will get some holding calls, even if the lineman can't get off his block. He really does a good job of tying them up and driving them back. I love where it appears on the 3 and 1 at the end of the game and he's got a DT right over the top of him and w/ his initial burst his plant foot slipps but he regains his footing quickly stands up the DT and drives him backward giving Mason the hole he needed to get the first down. (Allowing Long to seal the edge by driving his man inside....) He's very strong..... And I like it.

 

[jrry32]

I don't know where to begin, so I'll just say this. G. Rob is playing well, and his clips prove that. Most of the analysis, I just don't agree with.

He was right about GR needing to do a better job of rubbing and releasing. No reason for GR to turn his shouders into the defender on that one play. He only needs to punch him with his inside hand and maybe chip him with a shoulder if necessary to help Wells seal the defender. But I don't think that's a particularly big deal since he got to the 2nd level anyways. Just something you learn as you get more experience. I'm sure Boudreau will talk to him about it.

 

[RaminExile]

Yeah its just an experience thing - he wants to finish the block as he's been taught to. And once he gets his hands on people its all over. But in this league he will be called for holds too regularly if he doesn't get a bit more disciplined.

 

[LesBaker]

I hate that many BIG gifs on one page. It's hard to focus on the tiny text sandwiched between the gifs. Couldn't force myself to finish the article, but those were some impressive blocks by the big man.

Fucking drives me crazy when I click onto a page like that, I can't stand it even if its porn LOL.

 

[DR RAM]

He was right about GR needing to do a better job of rubbing and releasing. No reason for GR to turn his shouders into the defender on that one play. He only needs to punch him with his inside hand and maybe chip him with a shoulder if necessary to help Wells seal the defender. But I don't think that's a particularly big deal since he got to the 2nd level anyways. Just something you learn as you get more experience. I'm sure Boudreau will talk to him about it.

But he may have been told to seal that edge on that play, we just don't know.

You have to complete your number 1 responsibility first, or your second one means nothing.

 

[jrry32]

But he may have been told to seal that edge on that play, we just don't know.

You have to complete your number 1 responsibility first, or your second one means nothing.

That's a fair point. I'm making an educated assumption based on how it's usually done. But it is an assumption. With GR's athleticism, it's very possible that Boudreau prefers him to do it that way because he still has the quickness to get the second level and it makes sure that the seal is there.

 

[DR RAM]

That's a fair point. I'm making an educated assumption based on how it's usually done. But it is an assumption.

And that is what I am trying...trying to stay away from, but it's not uncommon for the coaches to tell him to make sure he secures the first block. I thought the article was full of assumptions, which is why I objected to it. Overall, and even if someone doesn't know about football, you can see how effective this young stud is, and project what he might become. I see a bright future, very bright.

When he stops thinking, and starts turning loose....watch out. He handled Justin Smith most of the game. I'd like to hear what he thought about Greg Robinson.

 

[jrry32]

And that is what I am trying...trying to stay away from, but it's not uncommon for the coaches to tell him to make sure he secures the first block. I thought the article was full of assumptions, which is why I objected to it. Overall, and even if someone doesn't know about football, you can see how effective this young stud is, and project what he might become. I see a bright future, very bright.

When he stops thinking, and starts turning loose....watch out. He handled Justin Smith most of the game. I'd like to hear what he thought about Greg Robinson.

Don't quote me on this but I believe he said, "Where did the Rams find a brick wall that can move like that?"

 

[Username]

And that is what I am trying...trying to stay away from, but it's not uncommon for the coaches to tell him to make sure he secures the first block. I thought the article was full of assumptions, which is why I objected to it. Overall, and even if someone doesn't know about football, you can see how effective this young stud is, and project what he might become. I see a bright future, very bright.

When he stops thinking, and starts turning loose....watch out. He handled Justin Smith most of the game. I'd like to hear what he thought about Greg Robinson.

Or Brandon Mebane who he drove off the ball consistently on 1 v 1 blocks and even pancaked on his ass a couple of times. The kid is the real deal. It was his 2nd start for Christ sakes.

People watch the Rams offense and wonder why we still took him? We are a power run team, who wants to run in between the tackles consistantly. Even if there's 8-9 men in the box. Whether you agree with it or not, that's who the Rams are. We knew that going into the season, and that's why so many of us wanted him including the Rams. He is a DOMINATE run blocker that will only get better. In THIS offense he already makes a MASSIVE impact.

You can definitely see the talent that made him the second overall pick, but at this point it's more common to see the reasons why he couldn't beat out Davin Joseph in the preseason.

No, no it's not. If you actually watched a single Rams game before the upset against Seattle you would feel the same. I would rather have Scott Wells pointing out who to block for him every play at the LOS then have Davin Joseph playing.

 

[Jorgeh0605]

I don't think their synopsis was correct. It seemed like on some of those plays where he was "supposed" to block a LBer, actually called for him initially doubling the NG and then sliding to the 2nd level. And the success of the play seemed to say the same thing. I'm sure these guys know a few things, but did they know exactly what the blocking assignments were? I don't think so.....

Now I will admit their observation that Robinson will get some holding calls, even if the lineman can't get off his block. He really does a good job of tying them up and driving them back. I love where it appears on the 3 and 1 at the end of the game and he's got a DT right over the top of him and w/ his initial burst his plant foot slipps but he regains his footing quickly stands up the DT and drives him backward giving Mason the hole he needed to get the first down. (Allowing Long to seal the edge by driving his man inside....) He's very strong..... And I like it.

You are suppose to help with the DT first, but you are not supposed to turn your shoulder like he does in that third gif. Though it is hard, and probably partly Scott Wells fault. Looks like Grob gave the DT a little more push than Wells did, which ended up turning all three of them. Seems like a good problem to have for some ISO runs though. I think he will be fine.

 

[beej]

If I were coaching him i might be inclined to tell him to do what you do until they call it a penalty. Because I'm honestly not sure they will ever call it

 

[mr.stlouis]

Dang, is there any question Mason is our best RB with the ball in his hand? He has that little wiggle to elude/bounce, incredible accelleration, and finishes the run! He's my starter if I'm Fisher.

On Rob, he just looks like he's learning the game and has come a long way from where he was at the beginning of camp. A littler concerned with the grabbing, he just has to learn how to use his speed and power at this level. It will come, love it.

Chiefs DT's better than SEA's? I know their pass rushers are.

 

[RamzFanz]

Wait... so Robinson isn't a bust and the Rams didn't blow the entire draft? And Donaldson is awesome? And Tre Mason is running 5.7 YPC?

Amazing what a little patience can reward us with.

 

[RamFan503]

And here is where he lost me...

(please don't turn the comments into a discussion about the bad call on the fumble).

His analysis could be correct. But this statement just doesn't hold up no matter how many times I re-watch it. Maybe Seattle should have recovered it but everything I saw indicated they didn't.

I also don't agree with his first premise. If GRob slides out to the next "gap", the guy he did block slides off and comes clean to hit Mason in the backfield.

 

[jrry32]

And here is where he lost me...

(please don't turn the comments into a discussion about the bad call on the fumble).

His analysis could be correct. But this statement just doesn't hold up no matter how many times I re-watch it. Maybe Seattle should have recovered it but everything I saw indicated they didn't.

I also don't agree with his first premise. If GRob slides out to the next "gap", the guy he did block slides off and comes clean to hit Mason in the backfield.

Yea, that comment made me roll my eyes. The call was not a bad one. Sounds like a Seattle fan.

 

[LACHAMP46]

Chiefs DT's better than SEA's?

Dontari Poe is a pretty nice specimen too...Should be a fun battle to watch....