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I think the position plays a factor as well.Most around here will say if a rookie doesn't come in and play good his first year he's not going to be good and needs to be replaced. Generally speaking rookies need a year or two to get upto the level of a quality NFL starter. I think he and Sebastian Joesph-Day (along with Fox) will be the starters along with AD along the front 3 this year and depth will be drafted.
Actually Farr started 3 games only p,aged in 10 and had 11 tackles 1 sack. Year 2 he played a full 16 and had 11.5 sacks. He’s another prime example with McLeod on patience pays off sometimes.I think the position plays a factor as well.
I think people expect more out of a RB than a QB in year one, for example.
It's also not uncommon for a rookie D lineman to play well from year one.
D. Farr was a guy that came in undrafted and played well from day one.
C. Long was a high pick, but started slow.
You never know
People still didnt like him after he was playing well. LolActually Farr started 3 games only p,aged in 10 and had 11 tackles 1 sack. Year 2 he played a full 16 and had 11.5 sacks. He’s another prime example with McLeod on patience pays off sometimes.
But yes there isn’t one cookie cutter mold for rookie expectations. Generally speaking you see what a guy is after three years because even if he succeeds year one doesn’t mean he’ll grow or sustain it.
Most around here will say if a rookie doesn't come in and play good his first year he's not going to be good and needs to be replaced. Generally speaking rookies need a year or two to get upto the level of a quality NFL starter. I think he and Sebastian Joesph-Day (along with Fox) will be the starters along with AD along the front 3 this year and depth will be drafted.
Reference the question on the NT position.... Snead has been utilizing third day draft selections on the NT post for the last three years. All 3 DL'ers are under contract.Is he the answer at NT or are we still looking for a starter at that position?
I would also add that imo the DLine is easier to get up to speed faster because they rotate in for downs or series in their rookie years. You don’t see olines swapping in and out for the same things. The best they can usually do is preseason games and maybe special teams.I think some of us can get a little lost in generalities around here. I do think there's some correlation with some positions when it comes to success long term and success right out of the gate.
For instance, it seems generally viewed that at TE, it's rare that eventually successful TE's are amazing right out of the gate. However, there does seem to be a correlation between RBs initial success and their success long term. Of course, there are also exceptions to the rule (see Derrick Henry).
As far as DL goes, I'm curious, how many stars or even above average starters have initial success right out of the gate? This seems like one position where it may take a few years unless you're the rare superstar. It would seem to me that DL and OL are the two positions that benefit most from a full year in the NFL weight room too.
Could be.
I prefer a true DL rotation however. Hard to accomplish in this day and age.
I’m still using that top pick this year for a playmaker to team with Donald.
Joseph-Day really developed and was quite good most of the year. He can be penciled in to get a lot of snaps this year.
Rams need another play maker up front.
Shelby Harris from Denver I would love to sign but isn’t realistic given his likely salary.