Free Agency; Rams do a lot, leave a lot undone

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http://www.espn.com/blog/los-angele...nic-thursday-rams-do-a-lot-leave-a-lot-undone

LOS ANGELES -- The Los Angeles Rams burned the candle at both ends Thursday, the first day free agents could sign contracts with other teams. It began with them addressing two of their most pressing needs through free agency a couple of hours after sunrise, and it ended with them cutting ties with four key veteran players a couple of hours before midnight. The Rams did a lot, but they also left a lot undone.

What was done

Jared Goff upright, and the Rams took a major step toward that objective by signing veteran left tackle Andrew Whitworth, who will be tasked with protecting the franchise quarterback's blind side. Whitworth is 35, but he remains among the NFL's best pass-blockers. He was first-team All-Pro in 2015, and Pro Football Focus graded him second among tackles in 2016. His three-year deal, worth $36 million, guarantees him $15 million. But $12.5 million of that will be given to him in the first year.

A new primary target: Kenny Britt left for the Browns and the Rams replaced him with Robert Woods, the former USC receiver who signed a five-year deal that maxes out at $39 million. Woods' numbers since being a second-round pick by the Bills in 2013 -- 203 catches, 2,451 yards, 12 touchdowns -- don't jump off the page. He isn't necessarily a game-changer, and he probably won't stretch the field vertically all that much. But he's a good route-runner, an elite blocker and has reliable hands. It's a nice complement for the speedy, 5-foot-8 Tavon Austin. Most important: Woods is still a month away from his 25th birthday.

A lot more cap space: The Rams were awfully close to their salary-cap ceiling after these two signings, so they cleared up some space. They dealt starting defensive end William Hayes to the Dolphins, swapping a seventh-round pick for a sixth-round pick, and released three key veterans: center Tim Barnes, tight end Lance Kendricks and defensive lineman Eugene Sims. All told, those four departures freed up $15.6 million in 2017 salary-cap space, roughly two-thirds of which the Rams can use on other free agents. But it also left an assortment of holes throughout the roster.

A fresh arm: Quarterback Aaron Murray, who teamed with Rams running back Todd Gurley at Georgia, was also added. He enters as a depth piece, with the Rams still leaning toward Sean Mannion as backup for Goff in 2017. Murray was a fifth-round pick in 2014. He has since played for the Chiefs, Cardinals and Eagles, but has yet to receive a regular-season snap. His older brother, Josh, was a contestant on "The Bachelorette" a couple years ago. So there's that, too.

What remains

Get a new center: The addition of Whitworth means Rodger Saffoldwill probably be the left guard, with Rob Havenstein, coming off a rough sophomore season, likely staying at right tackle and Greg Robinson, the former No. 2 overall pick who has struggled at left tackle, potentially moving to right guard. That could play well, with young players like Jamon Brown, Cody Wichmann and Andrew Donnal as backups. But the Rams need a center. The only one on the roster is Demetrius Rhaney, a seventh-round pick from 2014. The best one remaining is Nick Mangold, who is coming off a serious foot injury.

Beef up at WR, TE: Woods and Austin is a nice start, but the Rams still don't have a lot of depth at receiver. The rest of the group includes Bradley Marquez, who has been used predominantly on special teams, and a collection of guys who barely played as rookies, headlined by Pharoh Cooper. The Rams could really use some size here. None of those expected to get snaps are taller than 6-foot-1. They also need help at tight end, a position that is crucial to Sean McVay's offense. Tyler Higbee, a talented fourth-round pick last year, could see a lot more targets next season. But they need more here, as well.

Add depth on defense: The Hayes trade could mean veteran defensive end Robert Quinn continues to operate out of a three-point stance, rather than shift to outside linebacker as the Rams transition from a 4-3 to a 3-4 under new defensive coordinator Wade Phillips. Still, the Rams are in need of more depth for their defensive line. They also need to add a linebacker or two and might still look to tradecornerback Trumaine Johnson, who is to make nearly $17 million under his second straight franchise tag. Lots of moving parts here.

Figure out other FAs: T.J. McDonald isn't expected back, with the Rams expecting to move Maurice Alexander to strong safety and ideally draft a free safety. But what about kicker Greg Zuerlein, coming off a nice bounce-back season? Or Benny Cunningham, a solid kick returner and important change-of-pace running back? Or Chase Reynolds, a key contributor on special teams over the past four years?
 

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Yeah the roster still has a lot of questuons right now but its early so im not worried at all. Good start to upgrading the roster though
 

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Todd Gurley seems very happy about the Rams signing Andrew Whitworth http://theramswire.usatoday.com/201...w-whitworth-todd-gurley-free-agency-reaction/
The Los Angeles Rams signed one of the best offensive linemen in the league: Andrew Whitworth. Running back Todd Gurley seems thrilled.

Pro Football Focus graded Whitworth as the best pass blocker in the NFL last season, so it’s Jared Goff that should be particularly excited. But it’s not like Whitworth is shoddy as a rush protector, either.

Last season, PFF ranked him in the top twenty among offensive tackles for guarding the running game. This mark was ahead of folks like Joe Thomas, Russell Okung and Tyron Smith.

Check what Gurley commented on the official Rams Instagram post about Whitworth:
 

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http://www.espn.com/blog/los-angele.../rams-roster-will-look-very-different-in-2017

Rams' roster will look very different in 2017
Alden Gonzalez/ESPN Staff Writer

THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. -- The Los Angeles Rams entered the first full day of the new league year with upwards of $20 million in salary-cap space, but they navigated a complex path to get there.

It began by signing a couple of free agents, veteran left tackle Andrew Whitworth and former USC receiver Robert Woods, both of whom received $15 million guaranteed. And it ended with them parting ways with four key veteran players, trading defensive end William Hayes to the Dolphins and releasing three others -- tight end Lance Kendricks, center Tim Barnes and defensive lineman Eugene Sims, who was let go after a failed physical.

After accounting for upcoming draft picks, the Rams have up to $15 million to spend on outside free agents, and they need to address their depth at several areas -- receiver, tight end, defensive line, linebacker and the secondary.

Most glaringly, though, they need a center.

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The Rams have only one potential replacement for Barnes in-house with former seventh-round pick Demetrius Rhaney, who has barely played during the last three years. The best free agent available is Nick Mangold, who is coming off a serious foot injury. And the Rams have other needs in the draft, most notably defensive back, with strong safety T.J. McDonald not expected to return.

"That's something that we're evaluating right now," Rams coach Sean McVay said about finding a starting center. "There are some guys on the roster that you feel can kind of play inside and play at that center position.”

McVay added the Rams will look to "cross-train" some of their guards at center, a list that will probably include Jamon Brown and Cody Wichmann. With Whitworth now protecting the blindside of franchise quarterback Jared Goff, Greg Robinson, the former No. 2 overall pick, is expected to move to the right side, either to tackle or guard, a decision that partly rests on the improvement of young right tackle Rob Havenstein.

The Rams spoke to Robinson on Thursday about the transition and McVay said he's "up for the challenge," though it will be a difficult one.

"You have to have a starting point," McVay said, "and the starting point is we're going to give Greg a chance to play at that right tackle spot and see where we go from there."

The Rams introduced Whitworth and Woods at the team facility Friday afternoon, unveiling two players who represented the team's two greatest needs. Woods essentially replaces Kenny Britt, who left for the Browns.

But the Rams still have needs at receiver and tight end. Outside of Woods and Tavon Austin, the Rams have unproven players at both positions, most notably Pharoh Cooper and Tyler Higbee, two fourth-round picks who were hardly targeted as rookies.

The Rams could also use some size.

None of the receivers expected to get snaps are taller than 6-foot-1.

"We're looking for good football players," McVay said. "Those guys come in all shapes and sizes."

The Rams have franchised cornerback Trumaine Johnson for a second straight year, a move that will pay him close to $17 million. But they're open to trade offers, which could give them more flexibility to address the eroding depth in their secondary.

They also need at least one other outside linebacker, now that the Rams are transitioning from a 4-3 to a 3-4 under new defensive coordinator Wade Phillips. And they're in sudden need of defensive-line help.

Veteran defensive end Robert Quinn is converting to an outside linebacker -- though McVay said he will continue to rush the quarterback, with a role similar to that of the Broncos' DeMarcus Ware -- so Aaron Donald and Michael Brockers are the only starting defensive linemen returning, with very little depth behind them.

The Rams put an original-round tender on Dominique Easley and the right of first refusal on Ethan Westbrooks, two restricted free agents. But Westbrooks is coming off an arrest on suspicion of domestic violence, which McVay said the Rams are "continuing to gather information" on.

Regardless of how it plays out, the Rams' roster will look very different next year, as was to be expected.

Britt, Hayes, Kendricks, Barnes and Sims are gone. McDonald is expected to join them, as is third-down running back Benny Cunningham, former No. 33 overall pick Brian Quick and ex-starting quarterback Case Keenum. Johnson could eventually find himself elsewhere, too.

Jeff Fisher's men are leaving quickly.

"I don’t think it had anything to do with that," McVay said. "I think it was just, when we looked at overall, what we’re trying to do offensively and defensively, we just felt like those were the decisions that were best for our organization. I know there’s a lot of respect in this building, and me personally, for coach Fisher and what he’s accomplished and what he did here, it certainly isn’t anything like that."
 

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Only one thing to say to the experts saying we still have a lot of work to do. It's what 48 hours into free agency?

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I’m not following these closely yet but with the Texans/Browns trade it seems dumping contracts is bigger this year than in years past. Was that the payoff on Hayes to the Dolphins? If I read this correctly we traded Hayes AND a 7th to Miami for their 6th?? Unless his contract was a big part of that it looks like we simply gave Hayes to the Phins.
 

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McVay said they will cross train their guards to be able to play center, but they will also keep an eye on free agency and the draft to fill the position.

I really don't think size is a requirement for every receiving corps. The Rams did fine in the GSOT days without tall receivers. Hands, routes and intelligence can make up for size, just ask guys like Ike, Steve Smith, Antonio Brown.

I hope they just have Benny and Zuerlien on the back burner and assured them that they will get them signed. It would suck to lose either or both.
 

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with Rob Havenstein, coming off a rough sophomore season, likely staying at right tackle and Greg Robinson, the former No. 2 overall pick who has struggled at left tackle, potentially moving to right guard.
ahahhaahahahahahah...Nope...it's the other way around. LOLOLOLOLOL
Unless his contract was a big part of that it looks like we simply gave Hayes to the Phins.
Contract, plus we needed professionalism outta our leaders...and Hayes was/is a leader...
 

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They also need at least one other outside linebacker, now that the Rams are transitioning from a 4-3 to a 3-4 under new defensive coordinator Wade Phillips. And they're in sudden need of defensive-line help.

Veteran defensive end Robert Quinn is converting to an outside linebacker -- though McVay said he will continue to rush the quarterback, with a role similar to that of the Broncos' DeMarcus Ware -- so Aaron Donald and Michael Brockers are the only starting defensive linemen returning, with very little depth behind them.

The Rams put an original-round tender on Dominique Easley and the right of first refusal on Ethan Westbrooks, two restricted free agents. But Westbrooks is coming off an arrest on suspicion of domestic violence, which McVay said the Rams are "continuing to gather information" on."

If the Rams were able to score a couple of legit 34 OLB'ers in the draft & sign a UFA veteran, Quinn might be used exclusively as a pass rush specialist in 2017 from the OSLB'er posts or in the interior.. Even with the lost of the last two years starting DE's Sims & Hayes...... Wade still has some outstanding dynamic interior 34 DE prospects with Aaron Donald, Micheal Brockers, Dom Easley & Ethan Westbooks. What may be surprising to many is Wade going for some pass rushing type NT either in FA'cy like Syl Williams his NT last season & in the draft where Wade's type of NT's are much easier to find later.
 

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http://www.espn.com/blog/los-angele...nic-thursday-rams-do-a-lot-leave-a-lot-undone

LOS ANGELES -- The Los Angeles Rams burned the candle at both ends Thursday, the first day free agents could sign contracts with other teams. It began with them addressing two of their most pressing needs through free agency a couple of hours after sunrise, and it ended with them cutting ties with four key veteran players a couple of hours before midnight. The Rams did a lot, but they also left a lot undone.

What was done

Jared Goff upright, and the Rams took a major step toward that objective by signing veteran left tackle Andrew Whitworth, who will be tasked with protecting the franchise quarterback's blind side. Whitworth is 35, but he remains among the NFL's best pass-blockers. He was first-team All-Pro in 2015, and Pro Football Focus graded him second among tackles in 2016. His three-year deal, worth $36 million, guarantees him $15 million. But $12.5 million of that will be given to him in the first year.

A new primary target: Kenny Britt left for the Browns and the Rams replaced him with Robert Woods, the former USC receiver who signed a five-year deal that maxes out at $39 million. Woods' numbers since being a second-round pick by the Bills in 2013 -- 203 catches, 2,451 yards, 12 touchdowns -- don't jump off the page. He isn't necessarily a game-changer, and he probably won't stretch the field vertically all that much. But he's a good route-runner, an elite blocker and has reliable hands. It's a nice complement for the speedy, 5-foot-8 Tavon Austin. Most important: Woods is still a month away from his 25th birthday.

A lot more cap space: The Rams were awfully close to their salary-cap ceiling after these two signings, so they cleared up some space. They dealt starting defensive end William Hayes to the Dolphins, swapping a seventh-round pick for a sixth-round pick, and released three key veterans: center Tim Barnes, tight end Lance Kendricks and defensive lineman Eugene Sims. All told, those four departures freed up $15.6 million in 2017 salary-cap space, roughly two-thirds of which the Rams can use on other free agents. But it also left an assortment of holes throughout the roster.

A fresh arm: Quarterback Aaron Murray, who teamed with Rams running back Todd Gurley at Georgia, was also added. He enters as a depth piece, with the Rams still leaning toward Sean Mannion as backup for Goff in 2017. Murray was a fifth-round pick in 2014. He has since played for the Chiefs, Cardinals and Eagles, but has yet to receive a regular-season snap. His older brother, Josh, was a contestant on "The Bachelorette" a couple years ago. So there's that, too.

What remains

Get a new center: The addition of Whitworth means Rodger Saffoldwill probably be the left guard, with Rob Havenstein, coming off a rough sophomore season, likely staying at right tackle and Greg Robinson, the former No. 2 overall pick who has struggled at left tackle, potentially moving to right guard. That could play well, with young players like Jamon Brown, Cody Wichmann and Andrew Donnal as backups. But the Rams need a center. The only one on the roster is Demetrius Rhaney, a seventh-round pick from 2014. The best one remaining is Nick Mangold, who is coming off a serious foot injury.

Beef up at WR, TE: Woods and Austin is a nice start, but the Rams still don't have a lot of depth at receiver. The rest of the group includes Bradley Marquez, who has been used predominantly on special teams, and a collection of guys who barely played as rookies, headlined by Pharoh Cooper. The Rams could really use some size here. None of those expected to get snaps are taller than 6-foot-1. They also need help at tight end, a position that is crucial to Sean McVay's offense. Tyler Higbee, a talented fourth-round pick last year, could see a lot more targets next season. But they need more here, as well.

Add depth on defense: The Hayes trade could mean veteran defensive end Robert Quinn continues to operate out of a three-point stance, rather than shift to outside linebacker as the Rams transition from a 4-3 to a 3-4 under new defensive coordinator Wade Phillips. Still, the Rams are in need of more depth for their defensive line. They also need to add a linebacker or two and might still look to tradecornerback Trumaine Johnson, who is to make nearly $17 million under his second straight franchise tag. Lots of moving parts here.

Figure out other FAs: T.J. McDonald isn't expected back, with the Rams expecting to move Maurice Alexander to strong safety and ideally draft a free safety. But what about kicker Greg Zuerlein, coming off a nice bounce-back season? Or Benny Cunningham, a solid kick returner and important change-of-pace running back? Or Chase Reynolds, a key contributor on special teams over the past four years?
After reading this, I'm worried about what type of Team we will Field this year!! I know this doesn't sound like me, BUT I have been sick the Last 4 days with the FLu, Can't think, go to go lay down for a while!!
 

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Yeah, we still have a bunch of work to do:
Center
Sizable WR
Tight End depth
Running back depth
Multiple defensive ends
Linebacker
Cornerback
Free safety
Kicker

All this is still up in the air so I'm looking to see how we manage to address it with about $10 in spendable cap space and the draft.