Yamahopper said:
Ogletree's light bulb hasn't come on yet. Ray Ray's has.
Ogletree is still thinking before he reacts, thinks where he should be and what he should do. That can be normal with rooks. Not really a big deal.
He has the talent and played the position at a high level in college. So no real worries. It will click for him. He has a lot of help.
The bulb could click ata anytime.
There is some validity to seeing what a player like Ray Ray can do against 1's. It's even more valid for skill position players. What they can glean from his performance against the other teams scrubs is how he reacts, can he complete his assignment, etc. A LB that can play his position right can play it against anyone to a point.
Yes Ray Ray needs a few more pounds on him. But in this D speed is the key. JL was around 245 then he lost 10 pounds so he's playing Mike at 235 ish and playing it well. So a OLB at 225 ish isn't out of reason.
This is all I'm trying to point out. I agree the bulb could click at any time, not saying it wont. But I wish we could see what Armstrong can do against 1s.
As a huge fan of the NFL/College football game, and someone who calculates every step/decision I make in life - I'm a very logical person/am a software developer, which probably plays a huge role in that - I have a tendency to be non-bias even with my favorite teams being the Rams and Ohio State Buckeyes (GO BUCKS! O-H!). From this standpoint, watching as much as I do of the draft, college football, how other rookies do on other teams, I can tell you that I am worried about Ogletree. There were guys taken later in the draft, Bostic for Bears, Brown for Ravens, that are playing very well. Where we drafted Ogletree we expected him to come in and start, and so far he is not looking near as good as other rookie LBs in the class. I am worried and rightfully so. If Dunbar was not suspended I fully believe Ogletree would be backing up Dunbar and Witherspoon. Also one thing that a lot of more Biased fans always forget is that half or more of a draft class will not pan out, and many 1st/2nd rd picks will be busts - by busts it is meant that they will not produce early enough or at all to justify where they were drafted. I think Pead falls into this category and think he should be cut after the season. Based on where Quick was taken and the WRs in that class, he is close but not yet. I still question why we drafted a 'project' WR in the beginning of the second rd when we could've had Jefferey, Hilton, etc. Hilton especially, I thought it was obvious he would be very good in the NFL.
And for those saying Ogletree is not shying away from contact...huh? Come on guys, you have watched the first 2 preseason games. I'm not talking about practice, I'm talking about games against other teams. He is definately missing tackles big time and avoided tackling Lacy on at least 1 play - it was weird. Meanwhile Armstrong is killing guys out there. And when I said Armstrong looks bigger and faster than Ogletree, that is what I meant, he looks it. He may not be, I think they're actually almost the exact same size, but he plays bigger and faster - probably because it appears to have 'clicked' for him and not for Ogletree yet. I can't wait until Ogletree gets it, because when he does, we might have 2 really good OLBs from this draft class.
My $2.00, because cents are overrated
Thanks for the welcome. New to the forum but not new to the Rams or NFL as a 20 yr fan.
