49ers' Trey Lance-Jimmy Garoppolo QB battle just starting to heat up

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49ers' Trey Lance-Jimmy Garoppolo QB battle just starting to heat up

SANTA CLARA, Calif. -- In the days after the San Francisco 49ers traded up to No. 3 in the NFL draft and made it clear they intended to use that pick on a quarterback, incumbent starter Jimmy Garoppolo did what any normal human would do: he let his mind wander.

"There's a million emotions that go on throughout your head and you think of all the possible scenarios and things like that," Garoppolo said last month. "But at the end of the day, I want to play football. I want to go out there and win games. That's what I do. ... It took a little while to process everything but once I did, it was just go out there and ball. You have just got to attack it. The NFL is a crazy business."

If the trade and subsequent selection of North Dakota State quarterback Trey Lance wasn't wild enough, the attention paid to the Niners' potential quarterback battle is only starting to ramp up.

When the Niners ended their offseason program on June 9, Garoppolo remained atop the depth chart with Lance in the second spot and backups Josh Rosen and Nate Sudfeld jockeying for position and reps. At some point, Lance is expected to surpass Garoppolo but when that will happen is hard to predict.

That's especially true after Garoppolo seemed to respond well to the challenge of Lance's arrival, looking sharp in organized team activities open to media and leaving coach Kyle Shanahan impressed.

"I think Jimmy had his best spring since we've had him," Shanahan said. "I thought Jimmy came in in great shape, really locked in, a good place physically and mentally. And I thought he had as good of OTAs as he's had.”

Garoppolo has been with the 49ers since 2017, but this is only his second full healthy offseason program, and it's it's clear he doesn't intend to roll over and allow Lance to unseat him without a fight.

In fact, Garoppolo is doing his best to ignore the potential for a looming quarterback controversy. He's focusing on things he needs to do, not least of which is finding a way to stay healthy after missing 23 games over the past three seasons.

"If you start thinking about all those things, especially as a quarterback, you're going to be in some trouble," Garoppolo said. "I have got enough things to worry about, just with the offense and things like that, trying to improve things here and there."

For his part, Lance didn't look like he was in over his head during OTAs and took most of his reps with the second team. Although there were no pads or contact, Lance was able to digest all that Shanahan and offensive coordinator Mike McDaniel threw at him, though he had his share of ups and downs.

"Some days you do good, some days you do bad, but there's a whole up and down with it that is necessary for a guy to go through," Shanahan said. "So you can get those reps, soak it in, have an idea of what it feels like. Now we have tape to show him, tape to talk to him about, he gets to get away on his own and have an idea of what's expected out of him when he gets back."

When Lance, Garoppolo and the rest of the 49ers return for the start of training camp on July 27, there's no doubt that Garoppolo will be the starter with Lance as the backup. The question that will loom over the Niners in camp and beyond is how long it will stay that way.

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Shanahan doesn't intend to rush Lance but has said that if the rookie catches up and looks capable enough to turn it into a competition, that's something he will allow to happen organically.

As for the bond between the rookie and veteran, it's so far so good, though the real test won't come until the heat turns up later this summer.

"The relationship between me and Trey, I think will just happen naturally," Garoppolo said. "It's not something that you want to force too much. You don't want to make it fake. It's just things will happen and that stuff takes time. But I think it's just one of those situations where you don't want to go out of your normalcy and do something that's not you. So, I just let things happen and take it from there."

Which is exactly how Shanahan and the 49ers intend to let it all play out when the preseason arrives.
 

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When I see Nick Waggoner's name, my mind turns off. He was a hunk of shyte, pro Bernie M. lackey. That is all.
 

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There is no reason the new bust QB should play a down if Jimmy Grab-ass is healthy.

That being said, that's been his number one problem.
 

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I would have no problem with Jimmy G getting beat out by a rookie while collecting that fat check from the whiners. As long as whoever the whiners put in at QB is having nightmares about AD, Ramsey and company.
 

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Haha I’m gonna enjoy so very much watching the old savior of the franchise GrabAPole go down to the supposed New savior of the franchise and this bastard has Crapondick bust written all over him.

Whiner tears are going taste amazing when they are the garbage heap of the NFC West Or underachieving to the point of being irrelevant.

Think I’m being full hardy? Think of a good to elite QB drafted out of D2 or smaller. No Google bitches!

Let’s be honest the odds are stacked against the kid and I’d take this bet.
 

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I still think Lance has what it takes to be a good NFL QB IF THEY DON'T RUSH HIM. The worst thing the Niners could do would be to play him prematurely. Allow him to acclimate and take a redshirt year. They have Jimmy G and Rosen to carry them this year. Allow the game to slow down for Lance before throwing him to the wolves. Just looking good in practice isn't the same as live fire. Why the rush? With the 5th year option giving him a redshirt rookie year doesn't cost them anything and the Niners aren't cap-strapped.

If they take their time with their rookie, he could be that long-term starter that they need. I would be very surprised if Lance plays this year. We might not like the Niners but to assume they are stupid is IMO off the mark. Wanting them to be so doesn't make them so. By waiting until next year they can design an offense around him to play to his strengths.

I'm not worried because the Niners will be playing catchup for a while longer regardless of who is at QB.

Murray in AZ is proving the folly of going all-in on a rookie before they know exactly what they have and don't have in him. Now Murray himself is saying he needs to play from the pocket more and run less. But that isn't how Kingsbury built the team and structured the offense. AZ is a one-read and run offense, not a pocket offense. Way to go Kliff, you will be out of a job at the end of the season if Murray gets hurt or if they miss the playoffs even with an additional team added.

Who knows the Cards might re-sign Rosen next year if they want a pocket passer. That would be better than waiting for Murray to learn to play in a manner he's never done, i.e. read defenses. History has shown that converting running QBs who have never learned to play from a pocket takes years and is usually limited in it's success.

So the Niners only need to look at the Cards to understand how important to take their time with Lance is and to build the offense around his skillset. Lance is nowhere near a finished product.
 

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"Some days you do good, some days you do bad, but there's a whole up and down with it that is necessary for a guy to go through," Shanahan said.

When I read comments like these… it sounds like more rough spots than preferred… Shanny trying to sell the bad spots as normal. Keep confidence up. Etc.
 

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I still think Lance has what it takes to be a good NFL QB IF THEY DON'T RUSH HIM. The worst thing the Niners could do would be to play him prematurely. Allow him to acclimate and take a redshirt year. They have Jimmy G and Rosen to carry them this year. Allow the game to slow down for Lance before throwing him to the wolves. Just looking good in practice isn't the same as live fire. Why the rush? With the 5th year option giving him a redshirt rookie year doesn't cost them anything and the Niners aren't cap-strapped.

If they take their time with their rookie, he could be that long-term starter that they need. I would be very surprised if Lance plays this year. We might not like the Niners but to assume they are stupid is IMO off the mark. Wanting them to be so doesn't make them so. By waiting until next year they can design an offense around him to play to his strengths.

I'm not worried because the Niners will be playing catchup for a while longer regardless of who is at QB.

Murray in AZ is proving the folly of going all-in on a rookie before they know exactly what they have and don't have in him. Now Murray himself is saying he needs to play from the pocket more and run less. But that isn't how Kingsbury built the team and structured the offense. AZ is a one-read and run offense, not a pocket offense. Way to go Kliff, you will be out of a job at the end of the season if Murray gets hurt or if they miss the playoffs even with an additional team added.

Who knows the Cards might re-sign Rosen next year if they want a pocket passer. That would be better than waiting for Murray to learn to play in a manner he's never done, i.e. read defenses. History has shown that converting running QBs who have never learned to play from a pocket takes years and is usually limited in it's success.

So the Niners only need to look at the Cards to understand how important to take their time with Lance is and to build the offense around his skillset. Lance is nowhere near a finished product.
The folly of drafting running QBs
 

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Jimmy's girl was just asked about this competition...


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And YES... that is actually her.
 

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But I think it's just one of those situations where you don't want to go out of your normalcy and do something that's not you.
IOW... Fuck him and the horse he rode in on. He can suck a bag of dicks if he thinks I'm going to be professional and help him in any way. :ROFLMAO:
 

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When I read comments like these… it sounds like more rough spots than preferred… Shanny trying to sell the bad spots as normal. Keep confidence up. Etc.
George Kittle sounded like this a couple weeks ago too. Trying to make the bad's sound like a compliment.

"I think really one of my favorite things about him right now, just as a rookie is he takes risks. He doesn't compete all the passes that he throws, but he's trying to fit it into the small windows. He's just trying to throw it as hard as he can and get it into that wide receiver going from in to that second window. I think that's really fun, just to see a guy take those risks."

And then yesterday said he "doesn't let the mistakes get to him".
 

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George Kittle sounded like this a couple weeks ago too. Trying to make the bad's sound like a compliment.

"I think really one of my favorite things about him right now, just as a rookie is he takes risks. He doesn't compete all the passes that he throws, but he's trying to fit it into the small windows. He's just trying to throw it as hard as he can and get it into that wide receiver going from in to that second window. I think that's really fun, just to see a guy take those risks."

And then yesterday said he "doesn't let the mistakes get to him".
Jameis Winston likes to try and throw through defenders too. Doesn't work very well in the NFL.
 

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I can’t wait to see Lance play against NFL caliber players.

The 49’ers are going to feel sick if he looks overmatched.
 

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I can’t wait to see Lance play against NFL caliber players.

The 49’ers are going to feel sick if he looks overmatched.

Again, let's not forget the Rams lost against Nick Mullens playing QB for the team up North, I respect Shanahan and his ability to call plays, but I hope they lose every game they play and they rehire Jim Tomsula as Head Coach.

I expect Garoppolo to be the starter and I expect Lance to make some eye popping plays in preseason along with some gaffes too. Overall, I like the kid, that's right I do, however, he needs to sit a year and if Garoppolo stays healthy, that is how it will play out IMHO.
 

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The NFC West is definitley going to be a great watch this year. Let the rookie win out. Let's see what we will be facing for the next four to five years.