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13 questions (and answers) about the Rams depth chart
By Ryan Van Bibber@justRVB

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Big name stars are important, but NFL teams win and lose based on the strength of their depth chart. Do the Rams have everything covered when it comes to roster depth?

Depth is everything in the NFL. The St. Louis Rams have learned that the hard way over the last decade. And it's been the biggest, if least talked about, challenge for the rebuilding efforts since Jeff Fisher and Les Snead took over in 2012. Slowly but surely, the Rams are restocking the depth chart, pulling out ready-to-start players like Trumaine Johnson to replace worn out pricey veterans like Cortland Finnegan. But do they have all the depth they need on the roster right now?

Over at CBS Sports, blog-loathing Pat Kirwan takes a look at the depth issue in the NFL, laying out 13 essential questions for the depth chart that teams need.

We'll have to wait until training camp and beyond to answer some of these questions, when we get a chance really see what the younger guys on the roster can do. But it's a good starting point for discussion, especially since it's one area where division rivals Seattle and San Francisco have a clear edge ... for now.

1. Backup quarterback
Say what you want about Shaun Hill, but he's a low-risk veteran backup who can manage an offense. The Rams tried to get him before they settled for Kellen Clemens last time they went backup QB shopping.

2. Does your team have a real swing offensive tackle, a guy that can play left or right tackle and has experience?
Yes they do, Rodger Saffold. His versatility is key because it allows them to move around other players should the need arise.

3. Does your team have a solid inside offensive lineman that can play guard or center?
In theory. Second-year Alabama product Barrett Jones was drafted to be that guy. He played all five spots on the line during his days under Saban's thumb. Jones is reportedly bigger this year, which is good, but he's still a wild card. Tim Barnes is another backup interior lineman, but he's more of an unknown at guard.

4. Is there a quality second running back that can deliver a 100-yard rushing day if he had to start?
The Rams have a really good 1-2 at running back with Zac Stacy and Tre Mason. Benny Cunningham was a capable change of pace guy and special teams contributor last year too. Isaiah Pead is, uh ...

5. Is there a good second tight end on the roster?
I'm not really sure there's one good tight end on the roster. Lance Kendricks has been better as a blocker, and he can catch passes when they need him to ... he's just not much of a playmaker with the ball in his hands. Jared Cook is athletic and works well as a receiving option in the right, limited circumstances, but he's terrible as a blocker.

6. Can the third wide receiver step up and start in the two-WR packages if a starter went down?
Well, shoot. We're still not sure the top receivers can be top receivers. The Brian Quick project looks like a bust. Kenny Britt has the potential to get better here, but the deck's stacked against him. The jury's out on whether or not Tavon Austin can be more than a gadget guy. Ah, hell, you know the story with the Rams receivers.

Fisher and Snead bet big that they had all the talent they needed at receiver, skipping the chance to add another in a draft loaded with receivers. That could prove to be to the biggest gamble of the year.

7. Does your team have a designated pass-rush specialist who could play the early downs if need be?
Yeah, I think the Rams are just fine in the pass rusher department.

8. Is there a third defensive tackle that not only plays in a rotation but could play the whole game if need be?
The top three defensive tackles should be the envy of the entire league.

9. Is there a quality nickel corner on the roster, since most teams are at least 50 percent sub defenses?
Man, this is a good question. Right now, it's Rodney McLeod, which leaves a little to be desired. Ideally, it'll be second-round pick Lamarcus Joyner, who has the kind of talent to excel as a third corner.

10. Is there a fourth corner for dime packages?
There's talent at the position; they just need to prove themselves. Joyner, McLeod round out the top four. Then you have some interesting rookies in E.J. Gaines and undrafted Florida product Marcus Roberson. Don't forget Greg Reid, whose speed is enough to make you wonder.

Lots more on the secondary here.

11. Is there a third safety for big nickel defenses?
There could be. Guys like Cody Davis and Mo Alexander have the kind of talent to be standout players in that role. They just haven't really had the chance to establish themselves, especially Alexander since he's a rookie.

12. Is there a return specialist that can either handle both punt and kick returns or contribute as a real position player?
There's Tavon Austin. The stable of running backs can do some damage with returns too.

13. Does your team have a special-teams linebacker that leads the specials and can play inside linebacker in a pinch?
Ray-Ray Armstrong is the Rams special teams linebacker of note. He's a talented player that the coaches envision bigger things for this season too. He had his struggles, mostly with discipline, last year. If the Rams needed someone to player MLB in a pinch, Alec Ogletree would move over with Armstrong taking his spot.
 

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3. Does your team have a solid inside offensive lineman that can play guard or center?
In theory. Second-year Alabama product Barrett Jones was drafted to be that guy. He played all five spots on the line during his days under Saban's thumb. Jones is reportedly bigger this year, which is good, but he's still a wild card. Tim Barnes is another backup interior lineman, but he's more of an unknown at guard.

4. Is there a quality second running back that can deliver a 100-yard rushing day if he had to start?
The Rams have a really good 1-2 at running back with Zac Stacy and Tre Mason. Benny Cunningham was a capable change of pace guy and special teams contributor last year too. Isaiah Pead is, uh ...

5. Is there a good second tight end on the roster?
I'm not really sure there's one good tight end on the roster. Lance Kendricks has been better as a blocker, and he can catch passes when they need him to ... he's just not much of a playmaker with the ball in his hands. Jared Cook is athletic and works well as a receiving option in the right, limited circumstances, but he's terrible as a blocker.
Actually a good article, but I have to disagree a bit on some points.
3. I'm not really sure what he's getting at. But considering how they re-negotiated with Wells rather than just signing a different veteran shows that they at least have some confidence in Jones or Barnes to back him up. And regarding depth at guard, they have both veteran and rookie depth at that position. Saffold, Davin, Washington, Robinson. We're looking better at guard than we have for a long time.
4. Just weird. I see Stacy as the number one, with Cunningham being his backup. Mason being the change of pace back, at the very least until he proves his run blocking is solid and Pead being the 3rd down back.
5. I still just don't know, how many teams have a tight end that can catch and make plays like Cook and block like Kendricks, much less two? The author is down on Kendricks, and while I agree that he doesn't excel at yards after the catch, they haven't really matched him up that way, that's been Cook's focus. Now the shameless homer alert ... I totally expect Cook to block like he needs to in order to become a real match-up nightmare.

Really, the biggest question marks to me are where they were last year, the secondary. Sure they addressed that need through the draft, but that means that we have a lot of youth at that position still. I'm happy with the choices, but still just saying. This teams real weakness is in the secondary until they grow and prove otherwise.
 

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No love for Cory Harkey? Bah. My #2 mancrush on the team behind Jones.
 

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Another guy that isn't paying attention and doesn't realize that WRs 90% of the time especially from a DIV II school don't just jump on the field and become stars. Quick will be fine and so will the rest of the WR and TE crew.

I agree that the secondary is going to be a concern however if the front 7 dominates like we think they will it will help the back end.

Gee only another month until TC begins :sleep:
 

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Actually a good article, but I have to disagree a bit on some points.
3. I'm not really sure what he's getting at. But considering how they re-negotiated with Wells rather than just signing a different veteran shows that they at least have some confidence in Jones or Barnes to back him up. And regarding depth at guard, they have both veteran and rookie depth at that position. Saffold, Davin, Washington, Robinson. We're looking better at guard than we have for a long time.

Really, the biggest question marks to me are where they were last year, the secondary. Sure they addressed that need through the draft, but that means that we have a lot of youth at that position still. I'm happy with the choices, but still just saying. This teams real weakness is in the secondary until they grow and prove otherwise.

The #2 question answer is NO!.....So Saffold is the fix? R U serious? What is the experience that Saffold has @ both OT posts....injury after injury after injury missed games after missed games...on & on.........The Story Remains The Same for Saffold @ OT it does not change!

Please let me explain myself.....its no due to the fact :
#1-That Rodger Saffold is......Boudreau's most outstanding dynamic OL'er, but that's with Saffold starting @ OG. RS is a powerful force for opponents to deal with not so @ OT.
#2- Keeping your best OL'er holding the fort @ his most effective post is VITAL for this Shotty offense to win! Saffold is the cemented into this OL as the starter @ ORG! Rams are a run first offense period. We all know what happens when we can not run the ball...
#3- RS has an deplorable injury record as a starting @ OT in the NFL. This is a fact & any organization can not ignore. Rams lost RS three times to injury alone last season alone while he was starting @ OT. Last season as the starting ORT first time was for 4 weeks with that separated shoulder in pre season, second was a grade 3 knee sprain that kept him from starting nearly 8 weeks & then finally he suffered his 2nd NFL concussion early in the Seattle game & was helped off the field. The only time the 2013 season 332 pound OL'er remained on the field as a starter was @ OG. In truth RS was only able to finish one game @ OT in 2013 & that was the first game.

Here's a question ....Do you think that 2013 Saffold's 332 pound massive body will be less in girth this 2014 season since RS now knows he is a NFL starting OG who needs serious power to move those interior NT's & DT's...??? I really believe RS seasons when he played around 311 pounds @ OLT during the 2010 thru 2012 seasons will not return. He was just too lean for what he really is a very good ORG. For those members who has known me for years now @ another forum, have heard me beat this drum since 2011...RS is a NFL OG! . Do you expect a 6-4 311 pound quick light footed Saffold to show up @ OLT when its needed or a green rookie Robinson to slide out & be effective @ pass blocking starting RDE in the NFL in 2014?

I would think that Boudreau knows that a very different RS body (full blown Bettlejuice) will line up @ OLT when asked too. Ram Org. let it be know they wanted OLT Zack Martin in this last draft....hmmmm wonder what they wanted Zack to do this season? Be the swing OT me thinks! So the Org. is fully aware of this present ongoing issue with the bona fide hole @ Swing OT.

Those (& there are many) who think this is really not an issue ...OK using just the 2013 season alone before the season came to an end Boudreau's lost two starting OLT's & one ORT to injury those injury's left us with our swing OT as our top starting OT(Barksdale) & our 4th OT(Williams) as our #2 OT so what would the Rams do today if they lost their #1(Long) & #2(Barksdale) ? Since this is an normal thing with Ram OL'ers do you see an issue here? That same situation would give us Robinson @ OLT & Saffold @ ORT..both starting OG's.

Sure RS can be the Swing OT if there is no other OL'er who can step up to fill this position. However IMO this option is a bad one. Since the draft where they drafted a mountain-man ORT & OC late ....the Org. has been working other angles on this issue...give them some credit... #1-signing of veteran Davin Joseph who is a ORG period & must return to previous playing form of 2011. #2-Org redid the large cap hit of starting vet. center Scott Wells to keep him a Ram so the Org's best two top interior reserves who are primary centers to be used as options in other OL posts. The Org has approx. 2 full months to continue to work on this issue.
 
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JMO But I think, wright now, if we needed a LB to move inside in a pinch it would be Dunbar not Ogletree. I think he better suited to it, and Ogletree is needed on the out-side!
 

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Rams are fine at TE..Harkey throws bone crushing blocks and his hands are underrrated and don't fall asleep on on Bowling Green State University Product Alex Bayer. I understand that Rams TE Coach Rob Boras really liked Justice Cunningham, but in the end IMO Bayer becomes the 4th TE, however, I am biased to individuals who played collegiately in the Buckeye State.
 

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The #2 question answer is NO!.....So Saffold is the fix? R U serious? What is the experience that Saffold has @ both OT posts....injury after injury after injury missed games after missed games...on & on.........The Story Remains The Same for Saffold @ OT it does not change!

Please let me explain myself.....its no due to the fact :
#1-That Rodger Saffold is......Boudreau's most outstanding dynamic OL'er, but that's with Saffold starting @ OG. RS is a powerful force for opponents to deal with not so @ OT.
#2- Keeping your best OL'er holding the fort @ his most effective post is VITAL for this Shotty offense to win! Saffold is the cemented into this OL as the starter @ ORG! Rams are a run first offense period. We all know what happens when we can not run the ball...
#3- RS has an deplorable injury record as a starting @ OT in the NFL. This is a fact & any organization can not ignore. Rams lost RS three times to injury alone last season alone while he was starting @ OT. Last season as the starting ORT first time was for 4 weeks with that separated shoulder in pre season, second was a grade 3 knee sprain that kept him from starting nearly 8 weeks & then finally he suffered his 2nd NFL concussion early in the Seattle game & was helped off the field. The only time the 2013 season 332 pound OL'er remained on the field as a starter was @ OG. In truth RS was only able to finish one game @ OT in 2013 & that was the first game.

Here's a question ....Do you think that 2013 Saffold's 332 pound massive body will be less in girth this 2014 season since RS now knows he is a NFL starting OG who needs serious power to move those interior NT's & DT's...??? I really believe RS seasons when he played around 311 pounds @ OLT during the 2010 thru 2012 seasons will not return. He was just too lean for what he really is a very good ORG. For those members who has known me for years now @ another forum, have heard me beat this drum since 2011...RS is a NFL OG! . Do you expect a 6-4 311 pound quick light footed Saffold to show up @ OLT when its needed or a green rookie Robinson to slide out & be effective @ pass blocking starting RDE in the NFL in 2014?

I would think that Boudreau knows that a very different RS body (full blown Bettlejuice) will line up @ OLT when asked too. Ram Org. let it be know they wanted OLT Zack Martin in this last draft....hmmmm wonder what they wanted Zack to do this season? Be the swing OT me thinks! So the Org. is fully aware of this present ongoing issue with the bona fide hole @ Swing OT.

Those (& there are many) who think this is really not an issue ...OK using just the 2013 season alone before the season came to an end Boudreau's lost two starting OLT's & one ORT to injury those injury's left us with our swing OT as our top starting OT(Barksdale) & our 4th OT(Williams) as our #2 OT so what would the Rams do today if they lost their #1(Long) & #2(Barksdale) ? Since this is an normal thing with Ram OL'ers do you see an issue here? That same situation would give us Robinson @ OLT & Saffold @ ORT..both starting OG's.

Sure RS can be the Swing OT if there is no other OL'er who can step up to fill this position. However IMO this option is a bad one. Since the draft where they drafted a mountain-man ORT & OC late ....the Org. has been working other angles on this issue...give them some credit... #1-signing of veteran Davin Joseph who is a ORG period & must return to previous playing form of 2011. #2-Org redid the large cap hit of starting vet. center Scott Wells to keep him a Ram so the Org's best two top interior reserves who are primary centers to be used as options in other OL posts. The Org has approx. 2 full months to continue to work on this issue.
I've already stated before that I absolutely hope that in the case of an injury at tackle, they stay away from a swing guard fix, and it's for exactly the reason you mentioned, we are a run first offense.

So outside of Barksdale and Long they have ...
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I would really like to think that someone emerges out of training camp as a viable tackle.

But we all know that going to one of those guys will be a last choice, and that they will use Saffold at tackle due to experience alone. At least we do have Davin to fill in at guard should that happen.

In the end, this offensive line is a LOT deeper than it was last year, but with any luck they won't have to put that depth to test.
 

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I still hope that a veteran cut will be signed for tackle - maybe even trade a late round pick for somebody with a couple years of experience, that they can hold onto for two years. I just don't see any of those non Saffold backups being who I'd want at LT if Long isn't ready, or suffers any sort of injury. I don't think they'd get anybody great - I just don't want a disaster for a game.
 

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I've already stated before that I absolutely hope that in the case of an injury at tackle, they stay away from a swing guard fix, and it's for exactly the reason you mentioned, we are a run first offense.

So outside of Barksdale and Long they have ...
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I would really like to think that someone emerges out of training camp as a viable tackle.

But we all know that going to one of those guys will be a last choice, and that they will use Saffold at tackle due to experience alone. At least we do have Davin to fill in at guard should that happen.

In the end, this offensive line is a LOT deeper than it was last year, but with any luck they won't have to put that depth to test.

Yep you sure have. We agree here. Rams OL is way overdue for that thing you mentioned LUCK. As you can see I have issue with Scott Rovak's opinion in his article about the Rams have solved the Swing OT issue.
 

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I'm not concerned with the TE's. Cook may never be a good blocker, I've come to that realization. What we need from Cook right now more than anything is a consistent receiving threat that can get YAC.
Kendricks is a very valuable move TE who can do everything he's asked to do. He knows how to get open. He knows how to block. He may get even better this season.
Harkey is still developing and brings toughness, and IMO quite a bit of untapped talent as a 3rd TE here.

As others have said, our greenhorn secondary is my biggest concern this season in terms of a matchup weakness that can be exploited by opposing OC's. I'm hoping that our very own DC will allow our front seven to put the majority of the pressure on opposing QB's, and not put too much pressure on our young secondary to deliver a lot of one on one matchups...at least not right away early in the process. Young players can lose confidence very quickly if they aren't put in a position to succeed. I'm sure GW knows this, but it does concern me a little.