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This thread is over a thousand pages long so I'm only highlighting what was said about Colin Kaepernick during and after the Rams game. Lot's of comparisons to Alex Smith and even a few Jeff Garcia and Sam Bradford mentions. Reminds me of the arguments Rams fans had when Bradford was still with the Rams.
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http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/182033-kaepernick-thread/page1003/
Kaepernick Thread
Only incompetent NFL QBs don't see this opportunity.
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Any other QB would be moved directly to the bench after missing an opportunity like that. Kap should be bagging groceries at Safeway.
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So when coaches call a running play, and no indication that Kap has been given a green light to audible at any point this year, it's his fault that he is following the coaches decision? It's hard to have a discussion about Kap if you guys can't see the fault in the team and staff around him.
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Any other QB would see that and throw a quick pass to the WR no matter if they had the greenlight or not. Kap should be playing for his career and doing anything to breath life into this team. If not to play here, but to get a chance somewhere else.
This shows that Kap does not have a QB mentality and never will.
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https://v.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/42BB...p4?versionId=1TKfRykgiBAN.AW1aASI5Z.zQIT94iYs
The full play. Kap cant read the field like a traditional QB, and the opponents know this. He doesn't even bother to look Smiths way because he is so locked into the run call. That's terrible for a fifth year QB, and is an indictment of him and his coaching both this year and in prior years.
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This is absurd. As a player, you do what the coaches instruct. If they don't give you the green light to make adjustments at the line, you don't go rogue and just do whatever you want. This is on our staff, not on Kap. They've surrounded him with one of the s**ttiest olines in NFL history and have reigned in any bit of adjustments for him to make at the line. But sure, it's Kaps fault. There's enough warranted criticism to put on Kap, a screen shot showing him hand it off 2 seconds into a play is not one of them. SMFH.
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Did you watch the post game press conference with Tomsula? They asked him, does Kaepernick have the authority to audible out of play and into another one (referring to the play where both our WR"s were WIDE OPEN on the outside) and tomsula said YES he has the authority.
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Wow that is terrible....so many missed opportunities on the field on so many plays.
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ooohhhh it looks like Kap is literally on an island!!
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He has no idea what he is doing
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Not fair. That top db came in within a second of the snap/play clock.
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Because there is zero pass protection and zero threat of a running game.
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Even when he has time he sucks
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This is the sh*t im talking about when i go to the games. Kaepernick never sees the field. He never audibles into what he sees on the field like QBS around the league do. He could be doing so much more for our team, but instead hes just trying to pretend to ride this dumpster like he has no way of getting out of it.
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Is it possible that Kap had no freedom to change the play and The Rams knew this and also knew what was coming? I think this might be all on the coaching staff.
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Yeah but he only had TWO wide open, uncovered WRs to choose from, that's a hard decision.
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If I'm Kaep id want to get traded after this year. Coaching sucks, ownership sucks and the organization is reeling from losing Harbaugh.
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I am so sick of this chicken s**t offense. Throw the ball into the f**king endzone. I am so tired of this playing scared crap. Attack!!! We havent had a good QB since Jeff Garcia and I am getting so sick of it.
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I think he has played poorly but it is tough to evaluate a qb when the team has the worst line, worst coaches and worst RBs.
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You know how you evaluate him? Put in another QB and see how he does with the same team.
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Sure, that'll change things. lol. Oline, scheme, and running game is going to make any QB in this league that is not a future HOFer look like s**t. But let's chase the best QB we've had since Jeff Garcia out of town.
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I think My local varsity team could score more.
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We endured year of Alex sucking balls because of poor coaching and talent around him. We now know that Alex is limited but can be successful under the right coaching and players around him. Kap is the same thing, but better, imo. Just gotta get some help around him. But hey, we could let him go and let some other poor soul deal with our oline. Fix the oline, and we'll fix this offense.
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We already let our best QB since Garcia go (Smith). Dropped 45 on Lions today. Kap cant even get a 3rd of that point total these days.
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I mean, picking whose better between Kaep and Smith is just too tough. It almost seems like picking your deadly Poison. They both are going to kill you, its just which would you prefer? The quick death, so you can restart fresh? Or the slow and steady death. Pain at every turn
MAYBE, smith is better than kaepernick, but getting rid of him was still the right choice. If we want an offense that can perform, and get us into the playoffs almost every year on its own regardless of defense like some teams around the league, we needed to get rid of him. Right now, we are and will always be a team that can only get into the playoffs when our Defense is top 5, if not top 3 in the league.
And even then, that only lasts for a few years with the way defenses work right now. Thats why he needed to go and same with kaepernick. The defense we had is one we will probably never see again on the 49ers in our lifetime. Very rare for a defense like that to come along, and out of 32 teams for it to be playing for YOUR team
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who wanted Kaepernick even in round 1 again? Jim Harbaugh, THE coach of the century, right? Can the ppl that miss him admit this one?
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lol, he was very good in 2012, decent in 2013 and sucked last year. No development whatsoever.
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Clearly until he's gone and beyond. With this much evidence already in the can and they're still not convinced, they never will be.
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LOL. Kap has time in the pocket, holds the ball for 4 seconds, gets sacked.
edit: Now Kap just threw a ball 8 yards out of bounds.
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No longer going to refer to him as Kap. He has now earned the honor of Krap.
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Dude is 6'4" of pure s**t
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Tebowesque
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he got sacked! That means the oline is terrible! He needs at least 20 sec in the pocket
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I held out longer than most of you...
...I am over him now.
I don't wish Ill will upon him...just to go away
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Kap doesn't even have the basics of being a decent qb. He doesn't scan the defense and see a wide open wr.this is stuff they teach you in high school. He looks for his one read and scrambles and never looks down field. If someone is open he never sets his feet. It's been 4 years and I personally don't see it getting better. Sadly it is time to cut our losses.
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Wow, this is trending on the Facebook feed:
"Colin Kaepernick: 49ers Quarterback Fails to See Uncovered Receiver at Line of Scrimmage
Wide Receiver Torrey Smith waved his arms to get Kaepernick's attention when no Rams defender lined up across from him before the play, which ended up being a run up the middle."
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Why do we suck at run blocking? Because our O-line is trying to block when they are outmatched by the number of defenders?
Complete bias you are. You can give us 5 pro bowlers on this O-line, if the defense is rushing 8-9 stacking the box, your O-line will still look like sh*t at run blocking. If you dont have a QB that makes a defense respect your passing game, then it makes your rushing game look like sh*t. Yet somehow our rushing game over the year has looked respectable if not promising for future years, and thats saying alot giving the circumstances our QB puts us in.
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Kap is the worst starting qb in the nfl, by far
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So, do you think Kap has done enough to get his as* fired yet?
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even when this piece of s**t has time, he panics when he sees his 1st read is covered and starts running around, usually right into the pass rush. IDIOT!
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Just so you know, i go to all the seasons games except seattle so far this year, had to work. Entire stadium is booing Kap, and i even saw someone walking with a Krapernick jersey. Go to a game, you will see all the reads and unncessary sacks he takes. Sorry to tell you, your boy is probably gone at the end of the year. but like i said im done with your posts, you are so emotionally invested into the guy that logic doesnt even hit you
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It is for sure time to switch qb's. I've defended kap, but this was just horrendous.
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Yep, that pretty much sounds like the Kap that we all got to know. The dude is Captain Panic Station and sh*ts in his pants the moment there is an ounce of pressure and should be the spokesman for Pampers.
OK, so what are you going to do about it, Jed York/Baalke?!
Go and pack your bags after the game, Krapnpick!!
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It's sad to say but Colin has regressed big time. I know he was never good at reading defenses, but when he first broke onto the scene, he was absolutely fearless. He threw the ball into really tight windows and did so successfully. Now, he's totally scared to throw the football and doesn't pull the trigger unless his guy is wiiiiiiiiiide open. It's bloody ridiculous.
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This game pretty much sealed his fate this season. I don't see the Niners making a QB change just because taking out Kap would be the right thing to do. So, coaches will continue to play him instead. Kap will get cut before April 1st, JT will not only be fired as a HC, but will be to blame for the Niners demise more than Jed York who hired him.
So long, Kap! If you'd rather hand off the ball instead of throwing to wide open, uncovered receivers, then you lost tens of millions of $$$$ and deserve to have the door hit your a$$ on the way out!
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Kapsucksernick
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Is Bradford an option for next season? Traditional pocket passing quarterback.
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Nah, we need to do better than Bradford. He's not good.
Definitely need a timing, rhythm passer. Would rather draft our own guy.
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Sam Bradford plays in a much better offensive system and has worse numbers than Kaep.
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Those calling for Bradford...he is sadly worse. If we take him for Kap I want picks in return.
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Bradford is an average QB. I don't want him in a Niners uniform. He is not a long term answer and I'm not sure I'd want him for picks. I'd really rather see what Gabbert has to offer than watch Bradford.
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Everywhere media outlet I go to is not talking about the Rams win, it's talking about Kap missing Torrey Smith. As per NFL.com:
"Back to Kaepernick: This tells you everything you need to know about where Kaepernick is at as a quarterback in 2015. He's locked into a doomed play, only he can't see it ... or the wide open receivers on either side of him. Good grief."
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http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/182033-kaepernick-thread/page1003/
Kaepernick Thread
Only incompetent NFL QBs don't see this opportunity.
--------
Any other QB would be moved directly to the bench after missing an opportunity like that. Kap should be bagging groceries at Safeway.
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So when coaches call a running play, and no indication that Kap has been given a green light to audible at any point this year, it's his fault that he is following the coaches decision? It's hard to have a discussion about Kap if you guys can't see the fault in the team and staff around him.
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Any other QB would see that and throw a quick pass to the WR no matter if they had the greenlight or not. Kap should be playing for his career and doing anything to breath life into this team. If not to play here, but to get a chance somewhere else.
This shows that Kap does not have a QB mentality and never will.
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https://v.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/42BB...p4?versionId=1TKfRykgiBAN.AW1aASI5Z.zQIT94iYs
The full play. Kap cant read the field like a traditional QB, and the opponents know this. He doesn't even bother to look Smiths way because he is so locked into the run call. That's terrible for a fifth year QB, and is an indictment of him and his coaching both this year and in prior years.
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This is absurd. As a player, you do what the coaches instruct. If they don't give you the green light to make adjustments at the line, you don't go rogue and just do whatever you want. This is on our staff, not on Kap. They've surrounded him with one of the s**ttiest olines in NFL history and have reigned in any bit of adjustments for him to make at the line. But sure, it's Kaps fault. There's enough warranted criticism to put on Kap, a screen shot showing him hand it off 2 seconds into a play is not one of them. SMFH.
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Did you watch the post game press conference with Tomsula? They asked him, does Kaepernick have the authority to audible out of play and into another one (referring to the play where both our WR"s were WIDE OPEN on the outside) and tomsula said YES he has the authority.
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Wow that is terrible....so many missed opportunities on the field on so many plays.
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ooohhhh it looks like Kap is literally on an island!!
--------
He has no idea what he is doing
-------
Not fair. That top db came in within a second of the snap/play clock.
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Because there is zero pass protection and zero threat of a running game.
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Even when he has time he sucks
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This is the sh*t im talking about when i go to the games. Kaepernick never sees the field. He never audibles into what he sees on the field like QBS around the league do. He could be doing so much more for our team, but instead hes just trying to pretend to ride this dumpster like he has no way of getting out of it.
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Is it possible that Kap had no freedom to change the play and The Rams knew this and also knew what was coming? I think this might be all on the coaching staff.
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Yeah but he only had TWO wide open, uncovered WRs to choose from, that's a hard decision.
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If I'm Kaep id want to get traded after this year. Coaching sucks, ownership sucks and the organization is reeling from losing Harbaugh.
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I am so sick of this chicken s**t offense. Throw the ball into the f**king endzone. I am so tired of this playing scared crap. Attack!!! We havent had a good QB since Jeff Garcia and I am getting so sick of it.
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I think he has played poorly but it is tough to evaluate a qb when the team has the worst line, worst coaches and worst RBs.
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You know how you evaluate him? Put in another QB and see how he does with the same team.
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Sure, that'll change things. lol. Oline, scheme, and running game is going to make any QB in this league that is not a future HOFer look like s**t. But let's chase the best QB we've had since Jeff Garcia out of town.
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I think My local varsity team could score more.
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We endured year of Alex sucking balls because of poor coaching and talent around him. We now know that Alex is limited but can be successful under the right coaching and players around him. Kap is the same thing, but better, imo. Just gotta get some help around him. But hey, we could let him go and let some other poor soul deal with our oline. Fix the oline, and we'll fix this offense.
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We already let our best QB since Garcia go (Smith). Dropped 45 on Lions today. Kap cant even get a 3rd of that point total these days.
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I mean, picking whose better between Kaep and Smith is just too tough. It almost seems like picking your deadly Poison. They both are going to kill you, its just which would you prefer? The quick death, so you can restart fresh? Or the slow and steady death. Pain at every turn
MAYBE, smith is better than kaepernick, but getting rid of him was still the right choice. If we want an offense that can perform, and get us into the playoffs almost every year on its own regardless of defense like some teams around the league, we needed to get rid of him. Right now, we are and will always be a team that can only get into the playoffs when our Defense is top 5, if not top 3 in the league.
And even then, that only lasts for a few years with the way defenses work right now. Thats why he needed to go and same with kaepernick. The defense we had is one we will probably never see again on the 49ers in our lifetime. Very rare for a defense like that to come along, and out of 32 teams for it to be playing for YOUR team
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who wanted Kaepernick even in round 1 again? Jim Harbaugh, THE coach of the century, right? Can the ppl that miss him admit this one?
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lol, he was very good in 2012, decent in 2013 and sucked last year. No development whatsoever.
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Clearly until he's gone and beyond. With this much evidence already in the can and they're still not convinced, they never will be.
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LOL. Kap has time in the pocket, holds the ball for 4 seconds, gets sacked.
edit: Now Kap just threw a ball 8 yards out of bounds.
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No longer going to refer to him as Kap. He has now earned the honor of Krap.
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Dude is 6'4" of pure s**t
---------
Tebowesque
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he got sacked! That means the oline is terrible! He needs at least 20 sec in the pocket
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I held out longer than most of you...
...I am over him now.
I don't wish Ill will upon him...just to go away
-------
Kap doesn't even have the basics of being a decent qb. He doesn't scan the defense and see a wide open wr.this is stuff they teach you in high school. He looks for his one read and scrambles and never looks down field. If someone is open he never sets his feet. It's been 4 years and I personally don't see it getting better. Sadly it is time to cut our losses.
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Wow, this is trending on the Facebook feed:
"Colin Kaepernick: 49ers Quarterback Fails to See Uncovered Receiver at Line of Scrimmage
Wide Receiver Torrey Smith waved his arms to get Kaepernick's attention when no Rams defender lined up across from him before the play, which ended up being a run up the middle."
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Why do we suck at run blocking? Because our O-line is trying to block when they are outmatched by the number of defenders?
Complete bias you are. You can give us 5 pro bowlers on this O-line, if the defense is rushing 8-9 stacking the box, your O-line will still look like sh*t at run blocking. If you dont have a QB that makes a defense respect your passing game, then it makes your rushing game look like sh*t. Yet somehow our rushing game over the year has looked respectable if not promising for future years, and thats saying alot giving the circumstances our QB puts us in.
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Kap is the worst starting qb in the nfl, by far
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So, do you think Kap has done enough to get his as* fired yet?
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even when this piece of s**t has time, he panics when he sees his 1st read is covered and starts running around, usually right into the pass rush. IDIOT!
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Just so you know, i go to all the seasons games except seattle so far this year, had to work. Entire stadium is booing Kap, and i even saw someone walking with a Krapernick jersey. Go to a game, you will see all the reads and unncessary sacks he takes. Sorry to tell you, your boy is probably gone at the end of the year. but like i said im done with your posts, you are so emotionally invested into the guy that logic doesnt even hit you
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It is for sure time to switch qb's. I've defended kap, but this was just horrendous.
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Yep, that pretty much sounds like the Kap that we all got to know. The dude is Captain Panic Station and sh*ts in his pants the moment there is an ounce of pressure and should be the spokesman for Pampers.
OK, so what are you going to do about it, Jed York/Baalke?!
Go and pack your bags after the game, Krapnpick!!
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It's sad to say but Colin has regressed big time. I know he was never good at reading defenses, but when he first broke onto the scene, he was absolutely fearless. He threw the ball into really tight windows and did so successfully. Now, he's totally scared to throw the football and doesn't pull the trigger unless his guy is wiiiiiiiiiide open. It's bloody ridiculous.
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This game pretty much sealed his fate this season. I don't see the Niners making a QB change just because taking out Kap would be the right thing to do. So, coaches will continue to play him instead. Kap will get cut before April 1st, JT will not only be fired as a HC, but will be to blame for the Niners demise more than Jed York who hired him.
So long, Kap! If you'd rather hand off the ball instead of throwing to wide open, uncovered receivers, then you lost tens of millions of $$$$ and deserve to have the door hit your a$$ on the way out!
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Kapsucksernick
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Is Bradford an option for next season? Traditional pocket passing quarterback.
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Nah, we need to do better than Bradford. He's not good.
Definitely need a timing, rhythm passer. Would rather draft our own guy.
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Sam Bradford plays in a much better offensive system and has worse numbers than Kaep.
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Those calling for Bradford...he is sadly worse. If we take him for Kap I want picks in return.
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Bradford is an average QB. I don't want him in a Niners uniform. He is not a long term answer and I'm not sure I'd want him for picks. I'd really rather see what Gabbert has to offer than watch Bradford.
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Everywhere media outlet I go to is not talking about the Rams win, it's talking about Kap missing Torrey Smith. As per NFL.com:
"Back to Kaepernick: This tells you everything you need to know about where Kaepernick is at as a quarterback in 2015. He's locked into a doomed play, only he can't see it ... or the wide open receivers on either side of him. Good grief."
