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Free agent OT Greg Robinson was arrested Monday in Thibodaux, La. on nine felony drug charges.​

Robinson, 29, was pulled over for a traffic violation around midnight, and a police dog alerted at the presence of narcotics. Officers discovered 38.89 pounds of marijuana, 3.16 pounds of crystal methamphetamine, 2.22 pounds of cocaine, 4 grams of crack cocaine, 227 doses of hydrocodone, 48 doses of oxycodone and 18 doses of alprazolam along with “a large assortment of drug trafficking and packaging equipment/paraphernalia, firearm magazines and ammunition and a small amount of U.S. currency.” It's Robinson's second drug-related arrest in the last two years after he fell out of the league following the 2019 season. Robinson remained in jail Wednesday on $315,000 bond. The former No. 2 overall pick of the Rams is one of the biggest draft busts in recent memory.
 

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A quote from Jimmy Johnson -

"Hit me in the head with a hammer if I ever draft a dumb player again."
Might be one of the many elements Snead & #1 draft selections have not been a priority for him to keep. He just might be still mad & still kicking himself over that decision back in 2014.

However, then there's Aaron Donald.

Snead has collected 7 first-round selections on this roster currently plus he also has 9 2nd round selections too. Snead just goes about getting many of them differently than the rest of the other NFL GM's.

Guess might we say Snead is "Abby Normal"?

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inqdiNVzQcc
 
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Funny that picks 2,3,4,12,13,20 all traversed the Rams roster along the way but only Donald and OBJ are going for the gold Sunday.


Jadeveon Clowney

#1
Jadeveon Clowney
Ht/Wt:6' 5"/258 lbs
Position: DE
School: S. Carolina

Greg Robinson

#2 *
Greg Robinson
Ht/Wt:6' 5"/332 lbs
Position: OT
School: Auburn

Blake Bortles

#3
Blake Bortles
Ht/Wt:6' 4"/230 lbs
Position: QB
School: Central Florida

Sammy Watkins

#4 *
Sammy Watkins
Ht/Wt:6' 1"/205 lbs
Position: WR
School: Clemson

Khalil Mack

#5
Khalil Mack
Ht/Wt:6' 3"/245 lbs
Position: OLB
School: Buffalo

Jake Matthews

#6
Jake Matthews
Ht/Wt:6' 5"/305 lbs
Position: OT
School: Texas A&M

Mike Evans

#7
Mike Evans
Ht/Wt:6' 5"/225 lbs
Position: WR
School: Texas A&M

Justin Gilbert

#8 *
Justin Gilbert
Ht/Wt:6' 0"/200 lbs
Position: CB
School: Oklahoma St.

Anthony Barr

#9 *
Anthony Barr
Ht/Wt:6' 4"/245 lbs
Position: DE/OLB
School: UCLA

Eric Ebron

#10
Eric Ebron
Ht/Wt:6' 4"/245 lbs
Position: TE
School: N. Carolina

Taylor Lewan

#11
Taylor Lewan
Ht/Wt:6' 8"/302 lbs
Position: OT
School: Michigan

Odell Beckham

#12
Odell Beckham
Ht/Wt:6' 0"/193 lbs
Position: WR
School: LSU

Aaron Donald

#13
Aaron Donald
Ht/Wt:6' 0"/280 lbs
Position: DT
School: Pittsburgh

Kyle Fuller

#14
Kyle Fuller
Ht/Wt:6' 0"/190 lbs
Position: CB
School: Virginia Tech

Ryan Shazier

#15
Ryan Shazier
Ht/Wt:6' 2"/222 lbs
Position: LB
School: Ohio State

Zack Martin

#16
Zack Martin
Ht/Wt:6' 4"/308 lbs
Position: OT
School: Notre Dame

CJ Mosley

#17
CJ Mosley
Ht/Wt:6' 2"/232 lbs
Position: LB
School: Alabama

Calvin Pryor

#18
Calvin Pryor
Ht/Wt:6' 2"/208 lbs
Position: S
School: Louisville

JaWuan James

#19
JaWuan James
Ht/Wt:6' 6"/330 lbs
Position: OT
School: Tennessee

Brandin Cooks

#20 *
Brandin Cooks
Ht/Wt:5' 10"/186 lbs
Position: WR
School: Oregon St.

HaHa ClintonDix

#21
HaHa ClintonDix
Ht/Wt:6' 1"/209 lbs
Position: S
School: Alabama

Johnny Manziel

#22 *
Johnny Manziel
Ht/Wt:6' 1"/200 lbs
Position: QB
School: Texas A&M

Dee Ford

#23
Dee Ford
Ht/Wt:6' 2"/243 lbs
Position: DE/OLB
School: Auburn

Darqueze Dennard

#24
Darqueze Dennard
Ht/Wt:6' 0"/190 lbs
Position: CB
School: Michigan St.

Jason Verrett

#25
Jason Verrett
Ht/Wt:5'10"/176 lbs
Position: CB
School: TCU

Marcus Smith

#26 *
Marcus Smith
Ht/Wt:6' 3"/251 lbs
Position: DE
School: Louisville

Deone Bucannon

#27 *
Deone Bucannon
Ht/Wt:6' 1"/211 lbs
Position: S
School: Washington St.

Kelvin Benjamin

#28
Kelvin Benjamin
Ht/Wt:6' 5"/233 lbs
Position: WR
School: Florida St.

Dominique Easley

#29
Dominique Easley
Ht/Wt:6' 2"/285 lbs
Position: DE/DT
School: Florida

Jimmie Ward

#30
Jimmie Ward
Ht/Wt:5'11"/191 lbs
Position: S
School: Northern Illinois

Bradley Roby

#31
Bradley Roby
Ht/Wt:5' 11"/193 lbs
Position: CB
School: Ohio State

Teddy Bridgewater

#32 *
Teddy Bridgewater
Ht/Wt:6' 3"/218 lbs
Position: QB
School: Louisville
 

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Might be one of the many elements Snead & #1 draft selections have not been a priority for him to keep. He just might be still mad at himself over that decision back in 2014.


I have a feeling that The Decision to draft GRob wasn't his alone. Back then we had Fisher really running the whole show. Don't forget... Snead was hired after Fisher. Ass backwards. That's what Fisher wanted though... he demanded that he have the last word other than Stan of course. So drafting GRob just cannot be blamed on Snead 100%.

No doubt Snead learned from that pick though regardless. I'm sure that he is a better GM now because of having to live through that pick.
 

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Might be one of the many elements Snead & #1 draft selections have not been a priority for him to keep. He just might be still mad & still kicking himself over that decision back in 2014.

However, then there's Aaron Donald.

Snead has collected 7 first-round selections on this roster currently plus he also has 9 2nd round selections too. Snead just goes about getting many of them differently than the rest of the other NFL GM's.

Guess might we say Snead is "Abby Normal"?

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inqdiNVzQcc

God I love that movie.
 

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Funny that picks 2,3,4,12,13,20 all traversed the Rams roster along the way but only Donald and OBJ are going for the gold Sunday.


Jadeveon Clowney

#1
Jadeveon Clowney
Ht/Wt:6' 5"/258 lbs
Position: DE
School: S. Carolina

Greg Robinson

#2 *
Greg Robinson
Ht/Wt:6' 5"/332 lbs
Position: OT
School: Auburn

Blake Bortles

#3
Blake Bortles
Ht/Wt:6' 4"/230 lbs
Position: QB
School: Central Florida

Sammy Watkins

#4 *
Sammy Watkins
Ht/Wt:6' 1"/205 lbs
Position: WR
School: Clemson

Khalil Mack

#5
Khalil Mack
Ht/Wt:6' 3"/245 lbs
Position: OLB
School: Buffalo

Jake Matthews

#6
Jake Matthews
Ht/Wt:6' 5"/305 lbs
Position: OT
School: Texas A&M

Mike Evans

#7
Mike Evans
Ht/Wt:6' 5"/225 lbs
Position: WR
School: Texas A&M

Justin Gilbert

#8 *
Justin Gilbert
Ht/Wt:6' 0"/200 lbs
Position: CB
School: Oklahoma St.

Anthony Barr

#9 *
Anthony Barr
Ht/Wt:6' 4"/245 lbs
Position: DE/OLB
School: UCLA

Eric Ebron

#10
Eric Ebron
Ht/Wt:6' 4"/245 lbs
Position: TE
School: N. Carolina

Taylor Lewan

#11
Taylor Lewan
Ht/Wt:6' 8"/302 lbs
Position: OT
School: Michigan

Odell Beckham

#12
Odell Beckham
Ht/Wt:6' 0"/193 lbs
Position: WR
School: LSU

Aaron Donald

#13
Aaron Donald
Ht/Wt:6' 0"/280 lbs
Position: DT
School: Pittsburgh

Kyle Fuller

#14
Kyle Fuller
Ht/Wt:6' 0"/190 lbs
Position: CB
School: Virginia Tech

Ryan Shazier

#15
Ryan Shazier
Ht/Wt:6' 2"/222 lbs
Position: LB
School: Ohio State

Zack Martin

#16
Zack Martin
Ht/Wt:6' 4"/308 lbs
Position: OT
School: Notre Dame

CJ Mosley

#17
CJ Mosley
Ht/Wt:6' 2"/232 lbs
Position: LB
School: Alabama

Calvin Pryor

#18
Calvin Pryor
Ht/Wt:6' 2"/208 lbs
Position: S
School: Louisville

JaWuan James

#19
JaWuan James
Ht/Wt:6' 6"/330 lbs
Position: OT
School: Tennessee

Brandin Cooks

#20 *
Brandin Cooks
Ht/Wt:5' 10"/186 lbs
Position: WR
School: Oregon St.

HaHa ClintonDix

#21
HaHa ClintonDix
Ht/Wt:6' 1"/209 lbs
Position: S
School: Alabama

Johnny Manziel

#22 *
Johnny Manziel
Ht/Wt:6' 1"/200 lbs
Position: QB
School: Texas A&M

Dee Ford

#23
Dee Ford
Ht/Wt:6' 2"/243 lbs
Position: DE/OLB
School: Auburn

Darqueze Dennard

#24
Darqueze Dennard
Ht/Wt:6' 0"/190 lbs
Position: CB
School: Michigan St.

Jason Verrett

#25
Jason Verrett
Ht/Wt:5'10"/176 lbs
Position: CB
School: TCU

Marcus Smith

#26 *
Marcus Smith
Ht/Wt:6' 3"/251 lbs
Position: DE
School: Louisville

Deone Bucannon

#27 *
Deone Bucannon
Ht/Wt:6' 1"/211 lbs
Position: S
School: Washington St.

Kelvin Benjamin

#28
Kelvin Benjamin
Ht/Wt:6' 5"/233 lbs
Position: WR
School: Florida St.

Dominique Easley

#29
Dominique Easley
Ht/Wt:6' 2"/285 lbs
Position: DE/DT
School: Florida

Jimmie Ward

#30
Jimmie Ward
Ht/Wt:5'11"/191 lbs
Position: S
School: Northern Illinois

Bradley Roby

#31
Bradley Roby
Ht/Wt:5' 11"/193 lbs
Position: CB
School: Ohio State

Teddy Bridgewater

#32 *
Teddy Bridgewater
Ht/Wt:6' 3"/218 lbs
Position: QB
School: Louisville
No. 29 too, Dominique Easley. That really was a great draft class though, you could tell Snead wanted all the players that year and got his hands on a lot of the best ones at some point outside of Khalil Mack and Mike Evans. And iirc they tried pretty hard to get Mack at some point as well.
 

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Robinson was an absolute freak. I get it. If you had the chance to see him up close and see him move, compared to other players his size... you understood the potential reward with this kid.
But.. obviously... he's a fucking idiot.

He's just one example of why the Rams current model and approach is smart.. they really seem to hone in on guys who love football and have good football character. Sure.. they take some "upside swings".. I'm thinking Rochell and Brown this year.. but otherwise, they've been taking a lot of true football players.. not just prospects.
The Rams first round picks are bringing in guaranteed, high-level performance. No waste.
 

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I have a feeling that The Decision to draft GRob wasn't his alone. Back then we had Fisher really running the whole show. Don't forget... Snead was hired after Fisher. Ass backwards. That's what Fisher wanted though... he demanded that he have the last word other than Stan of course. So drafting GRob just cannot be blamed on Snead 100%.

No doubt Snead learned from that pick though regardless. I'm sure that he is a better GM now because of having to live through that pick.
Auburn was a double edge sword back then because Jeff Fisher's son Trent played for Auburn and Les Snead was an Auburn alum. I remember that draft wanting to draft Jake Matthews or Tyler Lewan because I felt Robinson would struggle with pass protection and I believe for a LT Pass Protection is priority one, but agree with you about Robinson, from the neck down he was all world, from the neck up, he was worth a dime.
 

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Robinson was an absolute freak. I get it. If you had the chance to see him up close and see him move, compared to other players his size... you understood the potential reward with this kid.
But.. obviously... he's a fucking idiot.

He's just one example of why the Rams current model and approach is smart.. they really seem to hone in on guys who love football and have good football character. Sure.. they take some "upside swings".. I'm thinking Rochell and Brown this year.. but otherwise, they've been taking a lot of true football players.. not just prospects.
The Rams first round picks are bringing in guaranteed, high-level performance. No waste.
Just a shame, pure and simple. Big Whit playing at a high-level at 40, this guy looking at a decade or two in jail while in his 20's.

Can't fix stupid.
 

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Just a shame, pure and simple. Big Whit playing at a high-level at 40, this guy looking at a decade or two in jail while in his 20's.

Can't fix stupid.
Nope.
Whitworth has made more than 100 million as a LT... if Robinson had been half serious.. he would've hit that number.
 

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Auburn was a double edge sword back then because Jeff Fisher's son Trent played for Auburn and Les Snead was an Auburn alum. I remember that draft wanting to draft Jake Matthews or Tyler Lewan because I felt Robinson would struggle with pass protection and I believe for a LT Pass Protection is priority one, but agree with you about Robinson, from the neck down he was all world, from the neck up, he was worth a dime.


Yeah... and look at Auburn now. What a disaster they have become. Not sure if you've seen the clown-show witch hunt they have going on with their coach right now, but WOW what a mess.

UCF's coach Gus M. of course came directly from Auburn. I was at a dinner last weekend and Gus was asked about the unbelievable mess happening back at his previous employer's. He took the High Road and stayed completely away from saying anything about Auburn in front of everyone. Later that night I heard him literally thanking God that he was out of that mess and for his new home here in Orlando.

There sure seems to be a boat load of dumbasses all collected together at Auburn now. We need to stay far away from anything coming outta there.
 

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No. 29 too, Dominique Easley. That really was a great draft class though, you could tell Snead wanted all the players that year and got his hands on a lot of the best ones at some point outside of Khalil Mack and Mike Evans. And iirc they tried pretty hard to get Mack at some point as well.
Good catch on Easley. We also danced with the #1 pick in FA I believe.
 

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GRob was very raw for an NFL OT. One could say that he was a bit of a project.

Don’t pick projects in the first few rounds of the NFL draft. Even if they pan out they could be a free agent by the time they do and you could lose them.

The odds of a very raw player reaching his potential in year one are very slim and doesn’t every team hope to get production from their first and second round picks right away?

I know I do.
 

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There sure seems to be a boat load of dumbasses all collected together at Auburn now. We need to stay far away from anything coming outta there.
Agreed and I'm happy for Gus Malzahn one of the nice guys plus you know I have a heart for UCF because they were the first college to accept me and offer me a partial scholarship for football way back in 1984.

That being posted I do like a Safety from Auburn just based off his name...Smoke Monday!
 

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Man, looking at that draft, imagine we picked Mack instead of GRob. What a pass rush we'd have had for all these years. Epic.
 

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Man, looking at that draft, imagine we picked Mack instead of GRob. What a pass rush we'd have had for all these years. Epic.
True but I look at everything bad that happened during the Fisher era as what led us to where we are today. Thank god Fisher wasn't just a little bit better, because if he hadn't been Mr. 7-9 the stars likely wouldn't have aligned for us to end up with McVay.