trumaine johnson released.

[Force16X]

Carolina Panthers release CB Trumaine Johnson

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[Dz1]

Tru to me always played hard, did what he could..

Wish him the best...

 

[Allen2McVay]

Thought Johnson played for the money. Not some or mostly ... that’s understandable. I mean he played ONLY for the $.

Don’t get me wrong he was (probably still is) talented, and played well for the Rams. They franchised him twice and paid him big those years; and I thought he played well. However, once he signed a huge five-year-deal with the Jets, he went into the tank. Took the signing bonus and guaranteed money, and effectively said ‘I’m good’.

Missed meetings and showed no leadership or professionalism. Again, living in NYC and buried in Jets and Giants coverage. Rarely have I seen a big NY free agent signing sour so quickly.

Heck, the Jets brought in Gregg Williams as their Defensive Coordinator last year, and he soured on his former player in quick order.

When Trumaine Johnson was with the Rams, there were some reports of being late for practices and meetings; and, I believe there was a DUI. However, Fisher was a “Players Coach“ and the punishments were minimal and/or not publicized much.

Johnson was usually very good, and sometimes terrific. However, once he got that big pay-day he was done in my opinion.

A perfect example of why NFL teams need to be very cautious and selective about signing free agents to large long-term contracts.

 

[tempests]

Thought Johnson played for the money. Not some or mostly ... that’s understandable. I mean he played ONLY for the $.

Don’t get me wrong he was (probably still is) talented, and played well for the Rams. They franchised him twice and paid him big those years; and I thought he played well. However, once he signed a huge five-year-deal with the Jets, he went into the tank. Took the signing bonus and guaranteed money, and effectively said ‘I’m good’.

There's a lot more money to be made in the NFL by playing at a high level than there is falling off a cliff.

 

[Merlin]

Tru had the ability to be great IMO. That ranginess... If he had been drafted by a defense like Seattle he would have been a beast. He needs help over the top and with his size when he does get that he can get aggressive on his jams and rolling up tight on the short routes.

I always liked him even though I suspected he was a guy who loved the paycheck more than playing the game.

 

[Allen2McVay]

There's a lot more money to be made in the NFL by playing at a high level than there is falling off a cliff.

I agree but it’s a demanding sport, played by young men.

Johnson’s Jets’ contract alone had $34M in guarantees; and the two years with the Rams under the Franchise Tag had to be another $26M.

So Trumaine Johnson pocketed $60M without considering his rookie deal, and before taxes.

That might be enough for an athlete with more in the tank to say ... ‘OK, I’m good’.

 

[jrry32]

Thought Johnson played for the money. Not some or mostly ... that’s understandable. I mean he played ONLY for the $.

Don’t get me wrong he was (probably still is) talented, and played well for the Rams. They franchised him twice and paid him big those years; and I thought he played well. However, once he signed a huge five-year-deal with the Jets, he went into the tank. Took the signing bonus and guaranteed money, and effectively said ‘I’m good’.

Missed meetings and showed no leadership or professionalism. Again, living in NYC and buried in Jets and Giants coverage. Rarely have I seen a big NY free agent signing sour so quickly.

Heck, the Jets brought in Gregg Williams as their Defensive Coordinator last year, and he soured on his former player in quick order.

When Trumaine Johnson was with the Rams, there were some reports of being late for practices and meetings; and, I believe there was a DUI. However, Fisher was a “Players Coach“ and the punishments were minimal and/or not publicized much.

Johnson was usually very good, and sometimes terrific. However, once he got that big pay-day he was done in my opinion.

A perfect example of why NFL teams need to be very cautious and selective about signing free agents to large long-term contracts.

Yeah, that's the feeling I get too.

 

[So Ram]

I agree but it’s a demanding sport, played by young men.

Johnson’s Jets’ contract alone had $34M in guarantees; and the two years with the Rams under the Franchise Tag had to be another $26M.

So Trumaine Johnson pocketed $60M without considering his rookie deal, and before taxes.

That might be enough for an athlete with more in the tank to say ... ‘OK, I’m good’.

I think your take is a little weak!

Tru Johnson was always a average CB.
JJ 21 was the same way.The Rams would get up & then bang a deep ball for a TD.

McSnead got burned & Fisher & Demoff messed as well on both.

Joyner sucked as well,but played hard.

 

[CoachAllred]

Thought Johnson played for the money. Not some or mostly ... that’s understandable. I mean he played ONLY for the $.

Don’t get me wrong he was (probably still is) talented, and played well for the Rams. They franchised him twice and paid him big those years; and I thought he played well. However, once he signed a huge five-year-deal with the Jets, he went into the tank. Took the signing bonus and guaranteed money, and effectively said ‘I’m good’.

Missed meetings and showed no leadership or professionalism. Again, living in NYC and buried in Jets and Giants coverage. Rarely have I seen a big NY free agent signing sour so quickly.

Heck, the Jets brought in Gregg Williams as their Defensive Coordinator last year, and he soured on his former player in quick order.

When Trumaine Johnson was with the Rams, there were some reports of being late for practices and meetings; and, I believe there was a DUI. However, Fisher was a “Players Coach“ and the punishments were minimal and/or not publicized much.

Johnson was usually very good, and sometimes terrific. However, once he got that big pay-day he was done in my opinion.

A perfect example of why NFL teams need to be very cautious and selective about signing free agents to large long-term contracts.

Mark one more up for our front office. They obviously made the right decision.
I like Trumaine. Hate to hear he has gone in the wrong direction.

 

[jrry32]

I think your take is a little weak!

Tru Johnson was always a average CB.
JJ 21 was the same way.The Rams would get up & then bang a deep ball for a TD.

McSnead got burned & Fisher & Demoff messed as well on both.

Joyner sucked as well,but played hard.

Nah. Both guys were quality starters at CB. You're selling our guys short. They got those big contracts for a reason.

 

[CoachAllred]

I think your take is a little weak!

Tru Johnson was always a average CB.
JJ 21 was the same way.The Rams would get up & then bang a deep ball for a TD.

McSnead got burned & Fisher & Demoff messed as well on both.

Joyner sucked as well,but played hard.

I think your take is a little unnecessary.
It's possible to post a counter point without the criticism.

 

[Allen2McVay]

I think your take is a little weak!

Tru Johnson was always a average CB.
JJ 21 was the same way.The Rams would get up & then bang a deep ball for a TD.

McSnead got burned & Fisher & Demoff messed as well on both.

Joyner sucked as well,but played hard.

Strongly disagree. While neither was consistent, when at their best, both Johnson and Jenkins were excellent.

Jenkins in particular has had about three elite seasons. His first year in NY, with the Giants, Janoris Jenkins was the best cover-CB in the NFL in my opinion. The next season, he was below-average.

Giants were a playoff team that first year but a disaster the next season.

When things are good (team, atmosphere, contract, etc.) some players, like Jenkins and Johnson, often play up to their talents which are significant. However, they struggle to maintain that level of play ... especially when things are not going well. That’s when their play goes into the tank.

Rams has some competitive teams under Fisher; and were in a division that often featured two playoff teams. The offenses were generally not good but the defenses were good at times; and Jenkins and Johnson were big parts of those periods when the defense was strong.

When a team you root for is disappointing and weak for an extended period, it’s easy to forget or ignore that there were some really good players on those teams. It’s easy to just lump everyone into a category.

 

[So Ram]

Nah. Both guys were quality starters at CB. You're selling our guys short. They got those big contracts for a reason.

your right as far as quality CB’s. T.Hill & D.Williams are the same.David Long is still really young.
Predictions on there NFL future? Getting a big contract vs. having an excellent career are to different things.

The Rams got burned & in Tru & Joyners situations were the value of the position & lack of depth.

In the end we can take stats on careers.Troy Hill started in a playoff game in 2017.Was a solid backup who helped The Rams to a SuperBowl in 2018.
As The late Al Davis use to say is just win baby. Those guys are not winners.
—Joyner always played hard.He was to short as a Nickle CB playing against big TE’s. No matter how good of a spot he was in. I liked Robey Coleman better than them all. He was a Heck of a FA pickup,as well as underrated.

 

[So Ram]

I think your take is a little unnecessary.
It's possible to post a counter point without the criticism.

that’s fine. Tru was a Fisher guy. Mcvay gave him such love his first season.

Tru played for himself. Was never a team guy.Those costly penalties. The Rams has to pay him,because Snisher got burned.

Now Ram fans can look at how the 2020 draft went down.McSnead learned from the past.

I guess my question is what did Tru Johnson ever do for The Rams? He was never that good imo.

 

[NoCoNite]

Tru used to come in this night club I worked at in STL. He was by far one of the douchiest ppl I’ve ever met. Was glad he was gone.

 

[CoachAllred]

that’s fine. Tru was a Fisher guy. Mcvay gave him such love his first season.

Tru played for himself. Was never a team guy.Those costly penalties. The Rams has to pay him,because Snisher got burned.

Now Ram fans can look at how the 2020 draft went down.McSnead learned from the past.

I guess my question is what did Tru Johnson ever do for The Rams? He was never that good imo.

Yes he was definately a Fisher Guy. I'm not sure how much say Snead had at the time.
I think he was an above average corner at best. I think we definitely made the right
decision to move on.
I did however like Trumaine better than Jenkins.
I thought Jenkins could screw up off the field at anytime
There is no love loss for either one of them.
Apreciate your response my ROD Brother.

 

[NoCoNite]

Tru had the ability to be great IMO. That ranginess... If he had been drafted by a defense like Seattle he would have been a beast. He needs help over the top and with his size when he does get that he can get aggressive on his jams and rolling up tight on the short routes.

I always liked him even though I suspected he was a guy who loved the paycheck more than playing the game.

IDK, I thought he was a great athlete with decent instincts. I also think he wasn’t coachable. Fisher liked these talented football players that couldn’t think their way to the next level. Big plays and big mistakes. Seems too easy for these guys to flash a couple big plays then get some nice pay checks.

 

[Angry Ram]

Didn't even know he signed with the Panthers.

 

[Cjcinec]

Strongly disagree. While neither was consistent, when at their best, both Johnson and Jenkins were excellent.

Jenkins in particular has had about three elite seasons. His first year in NY, with the Giants, Janoris Jenkins was the best cover-CB in the NFL in my opinion. The next season, he was below-average.

Giants were a playoff team that first year but a disaster the next season.

When things are good (team, atmosphere, contract, etc.) some players, like Jenkins and Johnson, often play up to their talents which are significant. However, they struggle to maintain that level of play ... especially when things are not going well. That’s when their play goes into the tank.

Rams has some competitive teams under Fisher; and were in a division that often featured two playoff teams. The offenses were generally not good but the defenses were good at times; and Jenkins and Johnson were big parts of those periods when the defense was strong.

When a team you root for is disappointing and weak for an extended period, it’s easy to forget or ignore that there were some really good players on those teams. It’s easy to just lump everyone into a category.

Jenkins was never close to being the best cover corner in the NFL because he lacked discipline and was constantly trying to jump routes to make a big play only to watch the big play go the other way. He’s been that way his whole career. Hit and miss but never close to the best and that’s why he’s on his third team and still getting beat. Tru Jo has always been just an average cb and was overpaid for just about every year he played.