This looks like a Top 5 D, don’t you think?

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On paper, anyway? I sure think so.

And yet, all the starters are not fully determined, to say nothing of backups and rotational players.

DL rotation is very much up in the air. Example is Easley. One article claims he might be a potential comeback player of the year while another article claims that he could be on the bubble. WTH?

Three LB starters are not known with certainty, much less the backup pecking order. This group could go in so many different directions between now and September. Expect the unexpected here, I think.

CB seems to be pretty much cut and dried, but backup S? Who knows, really?

So, I guess that we’ll have plenty to watch with interest this summer on D before the final 53 are determined. Even this Top 5 D has as many as 15 question marks when we look past the obvious 9 starters, huh?
 

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The LB play is unknown at this point. If we can get solid play out of that unit, top 5 isn't out of the question.
Our d line and secondary appear to be elite. (No big secret)
 

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If the offense is as good as I expect, opposing teams will need to focus on throwing the ball against the Rams. But with the Rams' secondary, that will be easier said than done, and I expect a lot of sacks, and a lot of turnovers. Which will just make it worse on opposing offenses, since they will be even further behind.

I almost expect that if opposing teams win the coin flip, they will elect to get the ball first, so that they have a chance to run and maybe get an early lead. Possibly the only real chance, for most teams.
 

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I know this wont be a popular opinion but I'm holding back my excitement until I see these guys actually play. There's so many unknowns at this point.
Will AD play?
How will our new DE/OLB's hold up?
MLB? Who is it? and will he be any good?
Two new CB's, while they are both all-stars one them is 32 years old and is a little long in the tooth. Not saying his playing time is done but we've seen players fall off in their early 30's. So we'll see

Anyways, my thoughts are our D is going to be a big hit, or a big miss this year.
 
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Rams got to be Top 5 in defense, regardless of the LB starters. Maybe number one in scoring defense and turnovers. We know the Dline and backfield are just going to kill it big time.

Even if the Rams LBs don't turn out to be great, I think they are going to be at the very least good enough. We know what Barron brings to the table. I think Littleton may surprise everyone and play great "every" down, especially with the help of the dline. Of course I'm assuming these are the two that will be manning the middlle. Longacre does not suck. I like him. And, Ebukam should be good enough. If not, fine. If 3 of LBs play solid, Rams will be Top 5 my opinion!
 

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A quick word about our LB corps.

First, it won’t be in a 3-4 base for all that many snaps. Expect a ton of nickel and not a few snaps in dime with the near elite Shields on the field. Down and distance plus a presumed frequent Ram lead will allow Wade to go to his true strengths. This will permit more snaps with his very best players on the field by adding the respected NRC and Shields replacing two younger LB’s. Wade is a proven master at masking weaknesses and maximizing strengths. Could be devastating for the opposing O, tbh.

Second, I don’t know about you but I’m really encouraged by reports and feedback on Ebu, for one. Littleton, too, to a slightly lesser degree. I think we’re gonna be just fine given how Wade schemes this loaded D.

Bottom line? I see a Top 5 D. Hell, maybe even better. It’s not as if Wade hasn’t had a #1 D before, after all.
 

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A quick word about our LB corps.

First, it won’t be in a 3-4 base for all that many snaps. Expect a ton of nickel and not a few snaps in dime with the near elite Shields on the field. Down and distance plus a presumed frequent Ram lead will allow Wade to go to his true strengths. This will permit more snaps with his very best players on the field by adding the respected NRC and Shields replacing two younger LB’s. Wade is a proven master at masking weaknesses and maximizing strengths. Could be devastating for the opposing O, tbh.

Second, I don’t know about you but I’m really encouraged by reports and feedback on Ebu, for one. Littleton, too, to a slightly lesser degree. I think we’re gonna be just fine given how Wade schemes this loaded D.

Bottom line? I see a Top 5 D. Hell, maybe even better. It’s not as if Wade hasn’t had a #1 D before, after all.
Great points. I totally forgot about the use of the nickel and dime packages. That definitely reduces the Rams need for 4 spectacular LBs, since all 4 won't be on the field every down. Rams gotta end up with a top 5 defense! They're just loaded on D in so many positions.
 

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Top 2 Defense - best interior DL and Secondary in NFL. Combine that a fantastic tops in the nfl offense and ST and the Defense should be playing generally with the lead which tends to limit what teams can do against us on defense which makes those opponents one dimensional and somewhat eadiea to scheme against. Also with the best secondary incl add Sheilds, Coleman and Hill rotating in we should be a top 2 Defense with Jacksonville and Minny.
 

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Look, I love love love the potential of this defense but we have significant questions at 3 defensive spots. Both OLB spots and ILB next to Barron. Longacre has never been a full time starter and is coming off an injury. Nobody behind him is proven. Ebukam hasn't been proven as a starter. Littleton actually seems to be the one I have the least questions about but we don't know how he'll look as a full time starter and how he'll hold up in the run game.

Top 15 defense. Yes. Top 10, probably. Top 5... way too many questions at this point to know. I reserve the right to re-evaluate after training camp where we'll at least see how these guys look and how the starters at these three spots shake out.
 

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No mention of Donald, Suh, Brockers, Talib, or Peters but you mentioned the Cardinals? SMH at Bucky Brooks. My guess is that (?) at LB for the Rams.
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...defensive-triplets-jameis-winston-on-thin-ice

NFL's top five DEFENSIVE triplets
By Bucky Brooks

I will keep it real: We've reached the point of the offseason where it is hard to come up with new and exciting topics to discuss. I thought looking at the best defensive trios would address a trend we are seeing from team builders as they attempt to put together a championship-caliber D in today's pass-centric league.

Looking at the top defenses in football, I believe the presence of a dominant playmaker at each level remains a common denominator. This is something former Buffalo Bills general manager Doug Whaley alluded to on an old MTS Podcast episode. Whaley suggested that championship teams have "six players that we're going to pay": quarterback, offensive tackle and a playmaker on offense; cornerback, pass rusher and a playmaker on defense.

This philosophy was echoed to me in a recent conversation with a veteran personnel man who stressed that championship defenses have at least one difference maker along the front line, in the linebacker corps and in the secondary.

"In a perfect world, you would like to have a dominant pass rusher on the inside or outside," said the AFC personnel director. "You also want a blue-chip player at one of the linebacker spots and somewhere in the secondary. Ideally, I would opt for a shutdown cornerback, but you can't go wrong with a ball-hawking safety in the middle."

All of this reflects my personal experiences in team building. When I was a scout for the Carolina Panthers, we constructed a rock-solid defense that carried us to Super Bowl XXXVIII and an appearance in the NFC Championship Game a couple years later. Led by the trio of DE Julius Peppers, MLB Dan Morgan and S Mike Minter, we pummeled opponents in the NFC with a nasty D that bludgeoned quarterbacks and punished runners and receivers on the perimeter.

We were one of the few teams in league capable of knocking around the QB and stuffing the run without relying heavily on blitzes. Although the conservative approach wasn't necessarily by design, the overwhelming talent of the group allowed the defensive coordinator to keep it simple on the way to piling up wins.

With all of that in mind, I think this is the perfect time to examine the depth charts and see which teams have the championship components in place on defense. Here are my top five defensive triplets:

1) Jacksonville Jaguars: DE Calais Campbell, LB Telvin Smith and CB Jalen Ramsey (or CB A.J. Bouye). The Jags nearly made the Super Bowl last season behind a star-studded defense that routinely punished opponents into submission. Campbell sets the tone at the point of attack as a shop-wreckin' pass rusher with a non-stop motor and a power-based game.

The three-time Pro Bowler finished with 14.5 sacks in 2017, helping "Sacksonville" tally the second-most sacks in the NFL. Smith is a blazing sideline-to-sideline playmaker with great instincts and thump. Ramsey has quickly emerged as the gold standard in cornerback play today.

A world-class athlete with an old-school football mentality, he suffocates WR1s on the perimeter. And the Jags' trio wouldn't miss a beat if Bouye replaced Ramsey. The 26-year-old's a superb tactician with exceptional footwork and recognition skills.

2) Minnesota Vikings: DE Everson Griffen, LB Eric Kendricks and S Harrison Smith (or CB Xavier Rhodes). Mike Zimmer and George Edwards have whipped the Vikings into shape as title contenders with a straight-forward recipe on defense that's built on speed, grit and hustle. Griffen embodies that philosophy as a disruptive pass rusher with cat-like quickness and a relentless spirit. He can turn speed into power in a heartbeat, yet displays enough finesse to keep offensive tackles on their heels.

With 43.5 sacks over the past four seasons, Griffen's become one of the premier playmakers at the position. Kendricks is a tackling machine in the middle of Minnesota's defense. He gobbles up runners between the tackles like a vacuum cleaner as an instinctive defender with outstanding diagnostic skills.

Smith is a no-nonsense enforcer with a high football IQ and a nasty disposition. He is one of the few safeties capable of roaming the deep middle as a center fielder, while also doing work in the box as a designated run stopper. Rhodes could easily fill the DB slot as an ultra-competitive cover corner with size, length and speed.

3) Arizona Cardinals: DE Chandler Jones, LB Deone Bucannon and CB Patrick Peterson. It will be interesting to see how Steve Wilks unleashes this unit after watching it grow into a disruptive force under the previous coaching staff. Jones is coming off a season where he led the NFL in sacks, and his game continues to evolve. The seventh-year pro has notched at least 11 sacks in four of his last five seasons, showcasing a flashy game that's built around speed, quickness and burst. Bucannon is a trend-setter: a hybrid safety/linebacker in the box.

As a designated run stopper with blitzing abilities and short-area cover skills, No. 20 controls the game in the tackle-to-tackle box, but also gives the Cardinals a full-time dime defender to use against "11" personnel (1 RB, 1 TE and 3 WRs).

Peterson is a true shutdown corner capable of erasing WR1s with nose-to-nose press-man technique that eliminates free access on the perimeter. With P2 also capable of traveling (CB can flip sides or move into the slot to cover his assigned receiver), the Cardinals have assembled an A-level defense in the desert.

4) Baltimore Ravens: DE/OLB Terrell Suggs, LB C.J. Mosley and S Eric Weddle. The Ravens' spot on this list is a bit of a surprise, based on the ages of their veteran leaders, but Suggs and Weddle play like they have access to the Fountain of Youth. At 35, Suggs remains one of the top pass rushers in the game, combining power with a bag of tricks off the edge. He's amassed 125.5 sacks in 213 games and tallied 10-plus sacks seven times in his 15-year career.

With five double-digit sack seasons since 2010, the former Defensive Rookie of the Year and Defensive Player of the Year remains a dominant force. Mosley doesn't grab headlines as a marquee player, but he is one of the current standard bearers at the position. As a sideline-to-sideline playmaker with exceptional speed and range, Mosley shrinks the field for opponents looking to create space for their top players.

In addition, he blots out receivers and tight ends looking for soft spots between the hashes. With Weddle backing him up as a deep-middle player with superb instincts and ball skills, Baltimore's defense is strong down the middle.

5) Atlanta Falcons: DE Vic Beasley, LB Deion Jones and S Keanu Neal. The Dirty Birds have a young-and-hungry unit with swift defenders at every level. Beasley is an explosive sack specialist with an outstanding combination of first-step quickness, snap-count anticipation and finesse moves off the edge.

The fourth-year pro led the NFL in sacks in 2016 (15.5) and flashed disruptive potential overwhelming offensive tackles with his speed and quickness. Although opponents seemingly caught up to his fastball in 2017 (Beasley recorded just five sacks, but he did miss time with a hamstring injury), the 25-year-old remains a threat to take over the game at any point. Jones is a disruptive playmaker with the speed, athleticism and burst to track down runners and receivers between the numbers.

No. 45 is a new-school linebacker capable of impacting the game on blitzes or in coverage -- a critical component for a championship-caliber defense in 2018. Neal is the Falcons' heavy hitter roaming between the hashes. He punishes receivers venturing over the middle, while also dropping into the box to be a stout run stopper. Neal's aggressive style and menacing ways complete a defense that's ready to emerge as one of the league's top units.
 

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AAron Donald DT, Mark Barron LB, Marcus Peters CB. All are equal or better than those mentions above by Buckey Boy.

And I can even sub three other guys the Rams have and still make the top 5. Brockers DT, Littleton LB, and Talib or Joyner CB and S.
 

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Donald , suh , brockers

Donald, Peters, Joyner

Donald, Talib, Peters

Talib, peters, joyner

Come on now
 

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The thing is, we got 2 cb's that gamble. They might win most of the time, but not all of the time. Plus both cb's had minor bouts of braindeadism relatively recently -- (on field, ignoring shooting self in leg in the bathroom).

So yeah, from the db's, there might be a bunch of 3 int games, but I get the feeling there's going to be a clunker or 2 mixed in somewhere and/or giving up yards in garbage time going for a glory play or something.

Net effect, depending on the metric to determine "Top 5", I could see the clunker game or garbage time play/yardage dropping the D out of Top 5, on stats.

But also yeah, if we're talking Top 5 straight on gut, not looking at stats, sure Top 5 all the way. No doubt.
 

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I think we may be TOP 5 damn EVERYTHING!!!!! Can't wait to get this show started!!!!!!
 

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The article was pretty biased towards edge rusher, LB and secondary trios that have all played together for at least one season.
 

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If we stay healthy.....and our LBs play well... we'll easily be top 5
 

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We really won't know anything until the opener in Oakland. The big question (for me) is how well we can play the run. Last year we got gouged by big runs too many times. Assuming Donald shows up and is active for game #1, we shall see how our souped up D-line performs. For sure we can rush the passer, but that's only half the equation ..
 

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First, it won’t be in a 3-4 base for all that many snaps. Expect a ton of nickel and not a few snaps in dime with the near elite Shields on the field. Down and distance plus a presumed frequent Ram lead will allow Wade to go to his true strengths. This will permit more snaps with his very best players on the field by adding the respected NRC and Shields replacing two younger LB’s. Wade is a proven master at masking weaknesses and maximizing strengths. Could be devastating for the opposing O, tbh.

Rams have to play well on first downs and slow down the run to be in better position to play more nickel and dime defense. That's one reason they got Suh. He can keep the LBers cleaner to make plays and make plays himself against the run. It will be interesting to see the snap counts for everyone. Top 5 defense is within their reach for sure.
 

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Rams have to play well on first downs and slow down the run to be in better position to play more nickel and dime defense. That's one reason they got Suh. He can keep the LBers cleaner to make plays and make plays himself against the run. It will be interesting to see the snap counts for everyone. Top 5 defense is within their reach for sure.
As I hear more of the nickel, dime and 4 man front formations that will be a big part of Coach Phillips D - the more comfortable I am with our ILB/OLB/EDGE situation. The Rams badly needed more reliable run support from LB positions. Quinn and Ogletree were both very athletic and provided some great highlights over the years - but weren't providing the consistency needed to stabilize the Rams D into a perennial top 5/10 unit.