These guys love our rookie class...interesting video

[PhillyRam]

View: https://youtu.be/H9m_PRWHKdQ

 

[Faceplant]

Nice!! Love BK and have the dope ass custom rams hoodie to prove it!

 

[Faceplant]

This is a MUST WATCH for all Rams fans. Kollmann always kils it, but this is just really really thorough. As much as I love Jourdan, her podcast pales greatly in comparison to this.... And he is not even a Rams guy, just a really good football analyst.

I subscribe to him and somehow missed this yesterday, so thank you @PhillyRam for posting!!

 

[Memento]

They obviously made this video before Tiyon Evans got cut. (I'm still salty about that, even though we added Michel.) I wish they had gone into Nick Hampton and Warren McClendon more. And I got killed at them mispronouncing "Hoecht", even though I understand. But I love what they did, especially since these guys aren't diehards.

 

[CGI_Ram]

I need to listen to more later, but he starts off with a strong point;

We had 14 draft picks. With a 50% hit rate, thats the equivalent of hitting on every draft pick in a normal draft. Which would be transformative to any team.

 

[PARAM]

One point they made that did occur right after the draft was, with 14 picks, if they hit on half of them, it's like hitting on a normal draft completely. And that NEVER happens. Take Bennett out of the equation for the time being and say Avila, Allen, Nacua, Hodges-Tomlinson and Evans (RB) are hits. And two of either Young, Hampton or McClendon. That's 7 at important positions. It would be phenominal and have, like they say, an immediate impact on the record. Though it's unrealistic, I'm hoping they hit on 8 or 9 with the punter. Couple that with good team health and terrific production from important vets like Kupp, Fuller, Donald, Akers, Jones, Higbee and Stafford and we might actually accept Snead's differentiation between remodel and rebuild. Of course we can have that hope in June.......

 

[jap]

  The eternal optimist in me believes we should have light to normal range of injuries this season, especially after the complete derailing of the Horns Express last year. We need our seasoned veterans and 2nd to 3rd year players stepping up early on. If our top rookies start coming uh bro their own by the 2nd half of the season, things can get really interesting come playoff time.

 

[Lunchbox]

One point they made that did occur right after the draft was, with 14 picks, if they hit on half of them, it's like hitting on a normal draft completely. And that NEVER happens. Take Bennett out of the equation for the time being and say Avila, Allen, Nacua, Hodges-Tomlinson and Evans (RB) are hits. And two of either Young, Hampton or McClendon. That's 7 at important positions. It would be phenominal and have, like they say, an immediate impact on the record. Though it's unrealistic, I'm hoping they hit on 8 or 9 with the punter. Couple that with good team health and terrific production from important vets like Kupp, Fuller, Donald, Akers, Jones, Higbee and Stafford and we might actually accept Snead's differentiation between remodel and rebuild. Of course we can have that hope in June.......

Judging by the way Snead talked about him in Behind the Grind ep. 2, I'd throw Kobie Turner into the mix here as well. He and McVay seem to love the guy. He may not play as much initially because of the guys ahead of him but should be a good long-term pick.

 

[rdlkgliders]

I really enjoyed it, I don't even disagree with estimated win totals

 

[Tano]

Their pass protection seemed to be higher than I expected.

However, as they stated, play action provides QBs with more time than average

I want to know what their pass protection rating was on 3rd and long as opposed to other teams

I bet we were in the bottom 5 on those plays.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I got to the part where they said that the Rams had one of the better QB rooms and Perkins and Wolford had some real quality starts for the Rams.

That’s when I realized that they really don’t know what they are talking about.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

This is a MUST WATCH for all Rams fans. Kollmann always kils it, but this is just really really thorough. As much as I love Jourdan, her podcast pales greatly in comparison to this.... And he is not even a Rams guy, just a really good football analyst.

I subscribe to him and somehow missed this yesterday, so thank you @PhillyRam for posting!!

I’d rather listen to Jourdan for the reason that I stated above.

 

[Allen2McVay]

...

We had 14 draft picks. With a 50% hit rate, that's the equivalent of hitting on every draft pick in a normal draft. Which would be transformative to any team.

Yeah but ... I hate to be a "yeah-but-guy" ... only three of the Rams' 14 picks were in the top-half of the Draft.

I'm hopeful but I don't think they have drafted well in the mid-late rounds in recent years; and these are almost entirely mid-late-round draft choices. I did like most of the selections in Rounds 5-7, so I am hopeful.

 

[Merlin]

I don't want to shit on the math here but a 50% hit rate for a given level range isn't good enough. I mean hitting on a 6th rounder means he plays some teams for example. Hitting on a 2nd rounder means he starts at some point.

What this team needs is to find a couple players among that haul who can be plus starters. Not just guys who start two or three years on the back of their draft status. Mediocre starters have been a bane from recent drafts in terms of undermining the roster strength and that needs to change for this draft to start that needle moving the other way. Those guys come in, do their thing, and move on via cut or time out on their contract and are on borrowed time until their career's over.

We need difference makers. Great drafts, the kind teams feed on for years like Seattle had early in the Carroll years, those provide a great player and some key starters on top of that (at a minimum). So first and foremost at least one of these guys has to be a serious homerun pick. Not necessarily Donald level but the kind of player who is felt big time through the season. So let's say a pro bowl type player.

I think some of these guys could be that type of player too of course. Avila is top quality across the board, he was a fine pick. Young has the raw talent to be an elite rusher, though that might take a year or two. Maybe Allen or Nacua end up being a diamond, I mean who knows. But we need at least a couple guys who are better than a basic starter who fills the job from this haul. Then a few of those who can fill a starting role on top of that and a role player or two and you're in business.

 

[PARAM]

Maybe I don't understand but a "hit" is a hit. It doesn't matter in which round the hit was drafted. But take a look at some of the guys this crew has drafted late. SJD in the 6th. Quality starter. Greg Gaines in the 4th. Quality starter who took over for SJD. Fuller in the 6th. Quality starter. David Edwards 5th round. Superbowl guard is enough quality for me.

A 50% hit rate is good. What teams hit every round, every year? None. I think the idea if they hit on 7, that's as good as any team has done, probably better. If Hodges-Tomlinson, to name one guy is a quality starter for 4 years, that's awesome. Good players who leave bring comp picks. If he's resigned, even better. Rosters are fluid, always have been since the salary cap was introduced. It's WHY the salary cap was implemented. And these guys habe adapted.

Thye've been trail blazers. First fuck them first round picks brought us guys like Cooks, Ramsey and Stafford. 2nd rounders brought us Watkins, Peters and Fowler. That design got us to 2 Superbowls and eventually brought us a Lombardi. Now they've gone the other way. Turn 8 into 14 and attempt to hit on 50% or more. And next year they have a first round pick and a few more comp picks. I think they're ahead of the curve. Hell, they're designing the curve.

So let's see what happens. I'm amped.

 

[Merlin]

A 50% hit rate is good. What teams hit every round, every year? None. I think the idea if they hit on 7, that's as good as any team has done, probably better.

I just think the term "hit" gets thrown around a lot with picks but is never really defined. It's tough to define it too. Point is if they "hit" on 7 picks this year iaw what is commonly accepted as hitting on a pick for the round he was taken in, it probably won't be all that great a draft.

It's the top guys who change fortunes in the NFL. So IMO the Rams taking shots at 14 players was probably more about trying to unearth diamonds than them planning to just hit on 50% of the picks.

If Avila ends up being a perennial pro bowler for example we'll be in business. From there it's a good chance this draft will end up being a great one. If not then they'll need someone else to grow into that type of pick or this will end up being a mediocre mass overhaul type group.

 

[PhillyRam]

  The eternal optimist in me believes we should have light to normal range of injuries this season, especially after the complete derailing of the Horns Express last year. We need our seasoned veterans and 2nd to 3rd year players stepping up early on. If our top rookies start coming uh bro their own by the 2nd half of the season, things can get really interesting come playoff time.

What excites me is if they do hit on 8 or 9 guys and they actually are ready to contribute in 2024, with the $60M plus in cap space(they will add more cap room with more needed cuts and restructures next yr) they will be in position to make a serious run next yr while probably be an entertaining young team to watch this yr.

 

[PARAM]

I just think the term "hit" gets thrown around a lot with picks but is never really defined. It's tough to define it too. Point is if they "hit" on 7 picks this year iaw what is commonly accepted as hitting on a pick for the round he was taken in, it probably won't be all that great a draft.

It's the top guys who change fortunes in the NFL. So IMO the Rams taking shots at 14 players was probably more about trying to unearth diamonds than them planning to just hit on 50% of the picks.

If Avila ends up being a perennial pro bowler for example we'll be in business. From there it's a good chance this draft will end up being a great one. If not then they'll need someone else to grow into that type of pick or this will end up being a mediocre mass overhaul type group.

Absolutely.

Reality is you get your starters from the first few rounds and hope to get complimentary players from the 4th on down, with the odd surprise now and then. Unless you believe your talent evaluation is other worldly. And lord knows all too often these guys get reminded that's not the case.

So they did take 14 chances rather than 8. They're not gonna unearth 9 quality starters. But they've got better odds with 14 lottery tickets. 50%? They're shooting for 100%. I'd take Avila, Young and Evans (the RB). If Turner and Davis are decent contributors, this draft will be phemominal. Hodges- Tomlinson is the guy who would put it over the top though. And they've found some diamonds in the 6th in previous drafts.

I'm hopeful but encouraged and can't wait to see what unfolds in camp and preseason.

 

[PhillyRam]

Absolutely.

Reality is you get your starters from the first few rounds and hope to get complimentary players from the 4th on down, with the odd surprise now and then. Unless you believe your talent evaluation is other worldly. And lord knows all too often these guys get reminded that's not the case.

So they did take 14 chances rather than 8. They're not gonna unearth 9 quality starters. But they've got better odds with 14 lottery tickets. 50%? They're shooting for 100%. I'd take Avila, Young and Evans (the RB). If Turner and Davis are decent contributors, this draft will be phemominal. Hodges- Tomlinson is the guy who would put it over the top though. And they've found some diamonds in the 6th in previous drafts.

I'm hopeful but encouraged and can't wait to see what unfolds in camp and preseason.

Well...here is a list of recent starters on Rams playoff teams & a SB team that were obtained after rd 3...and they have a number of rd 3 guys as well. Now sure, some like Nick Scott took more than 2 yrs to start, but they all contributed fairly early on in some aspects as a role player, spot starter, or special teamer.

Tyler Higbee 4th rd - starter
Greg Gaines 4th rd- starter
Brian Allen 4th rd - starter
David Edwards 5th rd - starter
Sebastion Joseph Day 6th rd - starter
Jordan Fuller 6th rd - starter
Nick Scott 7th rd - starter
Travin Howard - 7th starter
Darryl Williams UDFA - starter
Alaric Jackson UDFA - proj starter

 

[Faceplant]

I’d rather listen to Jourdan for the reason that I stated above.

That's cool. I listen to her from time to time, but her and her cohost are like nails on a chalkboard to me mostly. To each their own.

Also, Brett Kollmann knows plenty about football. He is not a Rams fan, that was just his take on the 2023 Rams team, and there was PLENTY of good insight in there. Sorry so many want to shit on it. It's not like you paid for it, haha.....