The NFL 2nd round signing conundrum; Ferguson is SIGNED!

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Ground Chuck

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PARAM said:
What's the false narrative in that story?
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My point with Dieter was the Red Herring is that somehow some of us are defending false narratives. I don't see anyone doing that in the NFL story, so there is no need to denounce it.

And as I and others mentioned, in general, the mainstream media has a pretty shoddy record of being right, so we are right to doubt them when we are fed their BS.

Sorry, I won't drone on about this anymore. Moving on.
 
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Merlin said:
Even if that is true collusion would be a good thing for everyone other than QBs, so 99% of the league or whatever. I think owner collusion on QB salaries may be required, lest we end up with owners paying them most of their cap and the rest of the dregs fighting over the scraps.
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Glad to see somebody gets it.
There is/was no collusion covered up.
"Possible collusion"? Gimme a break. Bottom line is that there are 2 sides in the collective bargaining agreement and they mutually agreed to an NDA on the subject. Pretty simple stuff.
Revenues are going up, Cap is going up, players profit share keeps increasing. All should be good. But its not, the PLAYERS arent equitably sharing in this. There are no villains here, and there's no easy solution.
 
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dieterbrock said:
Glad to see somebody gets it.
There is/was no collusion covered up.
"Possible collusion"? Gimme a break. Bottom line is that there are 2 sides in the collective bargaining agreement and they mutually agreed to an NDA on the subject. Pretty simple stuff.
Revenues are going up, Cap is going up, players profit share keeps increasing. All should be good. But its not, the PLAYERS arent equitably sharing in this. There are no villains here, and there's no easy solution.
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I agree
 
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OMG...

i ripped through the last 2 pages of this thread and this is my take...

remove your tin foil hats, fold them up, and put them back in the closet...

i may have missed, actual reasoning, in my rush to get to this point, but....

it's all on the players... they can tell their agents or negotiators to pound sand and get it done...

no cloak and dagger...

get the contract signed, get to camp... less that 10% not guaranteed!!! GTFO!!!

watch the dominoes fall starting monday...

that's my prediction... tin foil hat in hand...:wow2:

go rams

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Elmgrovegnome said:
Or they have a lazy front office that doesn’t want to bother haggling with an agent. Or worse. It could be that their front office has ppl that share the same agents with the players. So the agent and GM or financial guy barter behind the scenes to get a favorable deal done for the agent.
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If they are lazy, why hasn't some other team in the 15 years since 2011 been lazy and just offered fully-guaranteed contracts? I'm just trying to understand the logic behind it, and the explanations don't make much sense, so far.

The main fact I'm citing is that they signed them on May 8 and 9. There was no need to sign those guys in early May--none. Training camps don't even open till late July--and guys like Ferguson with the Rams attended Minicamp without a contract. They were too lazy to wait two months?! They couldn't wait one-month before offering fully-guaranteed contracts?!

The only thing that makes sense is that the Browns and Texans think this is going to cause their rivals some trouble--this year...and possibly every year from now on.

I remember the old days when real negotiations didn't begin until camps opened and guys didn't show up. I was hoping those days were dead and buried, but I guess not.

If you're an NFL fan, this is bad news.
 
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WarlordJC said:
If they are lazy, why hasn't some other team in the 15 years since 2011 been lazy and just offered fully-guaranteed contracts? I'm just trying to understand the logic behind it, and the explanations don't make much sense, so far.

The main fact I'm citing is that they signed them on May 8 and 9. There was no need to sign those guys in early May--none. Training camps don't even open till late July--and guys like Ferguson with the Rams attended Minicamp without a contract. They were too lazy to wait two months?! They couldn't wait one-month before offering fully-guaranteed contracts?!

The only thing that makes sense is that the Browns and Texans think this is going to cause their rivals some trouble--this year...and possibly every year from now on.

I remember the old days when real negotiations didn't begin until camps opened and guys didn't show up. I was hoping those days were dead and buried, but I guess not.

If you're an NFL fan, this is bad news.
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Your idea seems like a bit of an elaborate plan with little gain.
 
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I'm not too worried. It'll probably get done right before camp.
 
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RamBradford85 said:
Are u trying to be funny ? I don’t get it
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I've heard all kinds of shit about Burden being "cancerous" and "immature" and "character concerns", even from people here...but he signed his contract before Ferguson, who had none.

Maybe, just maybe, let the agents of the players do what they have to do on the business end, and let's not judge players for not signing a contract immediately when we want them to sign?

Terrance Ferguson has time. He'll arrive neither early nor late, but precisely when he means to, I'm sure of it.
 
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Memento said:
I've heard all kinds of shit about Burden being "cancerous" and "immature" and "character concerns", even from people here...but he signed his contract before Ferguson, who had none.

Maybe, just maybe, let the agents of the players do what they have to do on the business end, and let's not judge players for not signing a contract immediately when we want them to sign?

Terrance Ferguson has time. He'll arrive neither early nor late, but precisely when he means to, I'm sure of it.
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Burden signing a fully guaranteed contract doesn't deserve a pat on the back. My guess is if the Rams were offering the same Ferguson would have been signed by now.


View: https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1946310209091068272
 
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