St. Louis Rams: Biggest weakness still is at wide receiver

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The St. Louis Rams were pretty impressive, and explosive, during the team’s 27-26 loss to the Denver Broncos on Saturday night. The Rams held a 20-10 lead at half time, with both team’s first teams on the field for its entirety.

It was a great performance considering who the Rams were playing against. Peyton Manning was on his game and the Broncos high-octane offense was on display, yet the Rams defense held its ground.

And while the offense was spear-headed by a couple of special teams plays by Tavon Austin and some precision passing by quarterback Sam Bradford, a familiar weakness of the organization reared its ugly head.

The Rams still are weak at the wide receiver position, even with the additions of Austin and Stedman Bailey in the most recent draft and Chris Givens and Brian Quick in last year’s draft.

Givens certainly is holding up his end of the bargain and already, in just his second year, looks like a bonafide No. 2 wide receiver in this league. Unfortunately, the Rams are asking him to be a No. 1 and while Givens may be able to admirably fill the role, it still leaves a hole.

Those looking for Austin to be a No. 1 wideout will be sorely mistaken. He certainly will be a factor in the offense out of the slot, the back field, and who knows where else, but he will not be lined up out wide, working the sidelines, like a prototypical No. 1.

The Rams do not have a No. 1 because Quick’s development has been slowed in a way where he simply a specialist and nothing more and Bailey looks to be buried on the depth chart.

The Rams are asking Austin Pettis to be the No. 2 wideout and Pettis simply is not good enough to fill the role. Pettis is a serviceable option out of the slot, but he simply can not play near the sideline and that was evident against the Broncos on Saturday night.

Pettis could not get any separation all night. Bradford over threw him badly on a ball in the end zone mostly because Pettis was blanketed in coverage.

When Pettis was able to get a step on a play just prior, he was unable to get the elevation necessary to go up and get the ball and make the play, which is sad considering he is 6’3″.

I am not bashing Pettis. He is a fine No. 3 or No. 4 option at wide receiver out of the slot. The problem is the Rams are still short-handed and lacking a true No. 1, or even an additional No. 2 wide out. Austin can not be that man, because he will be used in so many other ways.

Austin’s talent, combined with the continued development of Givens and the presence of Jared Cook over the middle may not make it necessary for the Rams to have a second sideline threat.

But for now, in 2013, the team lacks a second sideline receiver and the Rams will need to make up for it with creativity to make sure it not a problem.
 

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I don't agree with that.
 

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Re: St. Louis Rams: Biggest weakness still is at wide receiv

Same crap we have been hearing from the national media for awhile now.
 

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Re: St. Louis Rams: Biggest weakness still is at wide receiv

albefree69 said:
I don't agree with that.
Wow, you skipped right over ambivalence. :lol:
 

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Isn't pretty obvious the Rams were trying to get Pettis some reps? I'm just surprised Quick didn't get more reps with the 1's. Pettis does his best work in the short game, which includes redzone. He's a role player, not a complete player. He will prove his value soon enough, I'm sure. Teams will give him 1 on 1 coverage all day with Cook and Austin getting special attention.

I actually think our greatest weakness is experience in general. Super young team with a very high ceiling. Thank goodness our coaches and front office are awesome. Go Snisher!
 

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Re: St. Louis Rams: Biggest weakness still is at wide receiv

I'm getting tired of hearing Givens can't be a no.1 receiver because he's not 6'3.
 

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X said:
albefree69 said:
I don't agree with that.
Wow, you skipped right over ambivalence. :lol:

I call bull$hit with this article! More to come.
 

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Re: St. Louis Rams: Biggest weakness still is at wide receiv

the Rams will need to make up for it with creativity to make sure it not a problem.
Does it not occur to these guys writing this stuff that creativity doesn't exist in the preseason? That what the Rams have in their WR corp isn't going to be evident until September?

In other words, pretending you can evaluate the Rams passing game isn't gonna fly.
 

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Tavon will be explosive. Givens is a deep threat and is becoming more dangerous on intermediate routes. Stedman bailey AND Brian Quick have star potential, and Pettis has good hands. I don't see WR being the biggest weakness... but I guess to an outside eye it may be.
 

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A55VA6 said:
Tavon will be explosive. Givens is a deep threat and is becoming more dangerous on intermediate routes. Stedman bailey AND Brian Quick have star potential, and Pettis has good hands. I don't see WR being the biggest weakness... but I guess to an outside eye it may be.

I disagree bailey will be better then pettis but its a stretch to say star potential
 

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jjab360 said:
I'm getting tired of hearing Givens can't be a no.1 receiver because he's not 6'3.

Well untill he proves it your going to hear it
 

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Re: St. Louis Rams: Biggest weakness still is at wide receiv

The problem with the term "#1 receiver" is that the definition is purely subjective.

I'll bet there are no less than 10 different definitions for it on this board alone.
 

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lockdnram21 said:
A55VA6 said:
Tavon will be explosive. Givens is a deep threat and is becoming more dangerous on intermediate routes. Stedman bailey AND Brian Quick have star potential, and Pettis has good hands. I don't see WR being the biggest weakness... but I guess to an outside eye it may be.

I disagree bailey will be better then pettis but its a stretch to say star potential
Bailey reminds me of like a Hines Ward. I think he will have a great career.
 

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A55VA6 said:
lockdnram21 said:
A55VA6 said:
Tavon will be explosive. Givens is a deep threat and is becoming more dangerous on intermediate routes. Stedman bailey AND Brian Quick have star potential, and Pettis has good hands. I don't see WR being the biggest weakness... but I guess to an outside eye it may be.

I disagree bailey will be better then pettis but its a stretch to say star potential
Bailey reminds me of like a Hines Ward. I think he will have a great career.

Hines ward was good but to call him a star I just dont see it
 

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In my honest opinion the verdict is still out on the WR core. I have question marks over the head of every single guy. While this group has very good potential, in my darkest fears I can see the lack of experience and veteran presence a big issue. Just saying, while the core has potential they are VERY FAR from proven. Hope we see a lot of separation because Sam deserves that through all the tough years.
 

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lockdnram21 said:
jjab360 said:
I'm getting tired of hearing Givens can't be a no.1 receiver because he's not 6'3.

Well untill he proves it your going to hear it
That's not the point. If Givens doesn't prove he's a "no.1" WR, it wouldn't be because of his height. There are plenty of 6' or shorter "no.1" receivers throughout history.
 

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Re: St. Louis Rams: Biggest weakness still is at wide receiv

If you are not at camp watching the development of the receivers, I don't believe the media with there limited exposure to a team that isn't considered to be beyond 3rd in their own division warrants great optimism about their receivers. As a Homer I am optimistic that time will show we have the receivers to contend. So far in preseason which is when the majority of the media build there opinions our receivers beyond Givens and Cook have been less than impressive. We all know that Austin is a versatile player that we will creatively incorporate into the weekly game plan but he is by no means a 1 or 2, Quick by all reports has improved but hasn't been overly impressive in the preseason. Pettis has not been impressive at all and we haven't seen much of Bailey this to the casual observer or quick assessing media leaves us still looking light in depth and explosiveness at the starting wideout position.

Obviously we as fans believe the above to misleading and hope to see Bailey or Quick step up as a legit 2 and Pettis be our complimentary 3 slash 3rd down slot guy.
 

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jjab360 said:
lockdnram21 said:
jjab360 said:
I'm getting tired of hearing Givens can't be a no.1 receiver because he's not 6'3.

Well untill he proves it your going to hear it
That's not the point. If Givens doesn't prove he's a "no.1" WR, it wouldn't be because of his height. There are plenty of 6' or shorter "no.1" receivers throughout history.

But majority of the #1 receivers are at least 6'2
 

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Re: St. Louis Rams: Biggest weakness still is at wide receiv

lockdnram21 said:
jjab360 said:
lockdnram21 said:
jjab360 said:
I'm getting tired of hearing Givens can't be a no.1 receiver because he's not 6'3.

Well untill he proves it your going to hear it
That's not the point. If Givens doesn't prove he's a "no.1" WR, it wouldn't be because of his height. There are plenty of 6' or shorter "no.1" receivers throughout history.

But majority of the #1 receivers are at least 6'2
So what's your definition of a number one receiver?
Is there a physical measurement or statistical benchmark you think needs to be met?
 

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Re: St. Louis Rams: Biggest weakness still is at wide receiv

So what's your definition of a number one receiver?
Is there a physical measurement or statistical benchmark you think needs to be met?

For me it is a guy that catches over 70% of targets
can catch 100 balls
can have 1000 yards
usually commands help in coverage freeing up other players to make plays
no physical measurement requirements