So is Wagner done?

[Rams4life]

I keep seeing posts stating he's hit the wall and he does look slow to me. What you guys think?

 

[ottoman89]

The games I've seen and things I've read show me he's still a gamer. And was recently rated the #1 LB in the NFL by PFF.

 

[Classic Rams]

Well if any indication per stats (and if I have my math right!) the defense is much better this year (with Wagner) overall so far.
But I get that he's near the end of his career physically. He has been both making and missing plays but I wouldn't hang any shortcomings on D toward him at all.

2021 Rams D

Rushing YPG: 6th
Passing YPG: 22nd
Total YPG: 17th

2022 Rams D

Rushing YPG: 7th
Passing YPG: 12th
Total YPG: 5th

Raheem: "Stats are for losers!!"

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I keep seeing posts stating he's hit the wall and he does look slow to me. What you guys think?

At the Bye he was the number 1 rated inside linebacker in the league.

 

[brucebruce]

imagine this defense with reeder. how's that for a halloween scare

45 is solid

 

[Tano]

Well if any indication per stats (and if I have my math right!) the defense is much better this year (with Wagner) overall so far.
But I get that he's near the end of his career physically. He has been both making and missing plays but I wouldn't hang any shortcomings on D toward him at all.

2021 Rams D

Rushing YPG: 6th
Passing YPG: 22nd
Total YPG: 17th

2022 Rams D

Rushing YPG: 7th
Passing YPG: 12th
Total YPG: 5th

Raheem: "Stats are for losers!!"

We were giving up a lot more yards thru the air and less yards on the ground because we have big leads last year.

Yes Merlin - I have an answer for everything

 

[jrry32]

Wagner looks fine to me. He's not the elite player he once was, but he's a good ILB.

 

[brucebruce]

what's with the OP and his doomsday threads. there are issues with the rams but why make up a non-existent boogie man. can ROD send him a nightlight?

 

[dieterbrock]

Thanks for the heart attack. I thought there was an injury I didn’t know about.
Wagner’s been playing just fine.

 

[Jacobarch]

I think I know what the OP is referring to...

One thing you have to understand is the ILB/MLB (wagner) much like our WSLB Jones is they have responsibilities to cover their portion of the field. It's worth noting that I have seen Wagner take on Jones responsibility more than once. When I see Wagner run past Jones on the opposite side of the field that shows me two things. One Wagner being a savvy vet and is quick to read plays. Two, Jones is not doing his job some of the time. He gets washed out or is slow to diagnose a play. Another note is Wagner has never been a good cover LB. If he's ever covering a slot receiver or a George Kittle, then the Rams defense has essentially already lost the play. Sometimes offenses out scheme our defense. It happens.

As others have said he's been rated the No 1 MLB up until this point of the season. I doubt yesterdays game helps his cause but the man has been playing lights out. That's more than I can say about the other plays around him. IE Rapp, Jones, and some of our inexperienced DB's. Whom we saw get outplayed and outsmarted yesterday.

 

[dang]

Rams got a lot of problems. Wagner ain’t one of them. He helped improve ILB tremendously this year.

 

[Tano]

Rams got a lot of problems. Wagner ain’t one of them. He helped improve ILB tremendously this year.

1000 times better than Reeder

Wagner has only missed 1 tackle so far

 

[PhillyRam]

1000 times better than Reeder

Wagner has only missed 1 tackle so far

He may not miss tackles, but he often isn't near the play or looks real slow reacting or chasing down a play.

He looks cooked to me.

 

[RamsOfCastamere]

I keep seeing posts stating he's hit the wall and he does look slow to me. What you guys think?

He does look slow chasing guys down field, but he's doing a lot of good things when ball is in front of him.

 

[Pancake]

He is slowing down at this point but he makes up for it with his reliable play. Rather have a guy like that vs a guy who is fast but over runs or takes bad angles.

 

[Jacobarch]

He may not miss tackles, but he often isn't near the play or looks real slow reacting or chasing down a play.

He looks cooked to me.

see my post above.

 

[PhillyRam]

see my post above.

I dunno, I see him over committing to fill a hole thats not really there and then seeing the RB run by him. So not always seeing great reads.

So again I wouldn't want him back next yr. No longer a difference maker in my view. Has he made one big play yet this season?

 

[jjab360]

I literally have no idea what you mean, Wagner is as solid as you can get for an ILB over 30

 

[Kupped]

He's good, but not worth what he's getting paid, imo.

 

[Snaz]

He's good, but not worth what he's getting paid, imo.

Was a Von Miller we missed out grab. Probably could have used the money elsewhere and been okay.
I think we have decent ILB candidates in the wings.