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Slim pickings among available quarterbacks in NFL

• By Jim Thomas

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/foot...cle_829a6ef3-74d8-5ce3-af7e-1ec8b92910da.html

At his season-ending news conference on Dec. 30, coach Jeff Fisher mapped out the Rams’ quarterback plan for 2015.

“There’s going to be competition at the quarterback position, there’s no doubt,” he said. “With somebody that’s not in the building right now. We’re hopeful for that.”

The time is growing near to find that competition for Sam Bradford, who the team would like to bring back at a reduced rate. Fourteen quarterbacks fresh out of college, including headliners Marcus Mariota and Jameis Winston, will compete at the NFL Scouting Combine. It starts Tuesday in Indianapolis.

And in the hallways, lobbies, coffee shops, and restaurants all over downtown Indy, the “tampering” season gets under way in terms of the free-agent market. Outside teams aren’t allowed to legally negotiate with pending free agents until the three-day negotiating period begins March 7.

But (wink, wink) “feelers” will be sent out at the Combine by teams interested in a pending free agent, or by agents seeking to drum up business for one of their clients.

As far as the Rams are concerned, they might get a feel for the free-agent quarterback market. Twenty-two QBs are scheduled to hit the market 3½ weeks from now, when the free-agency period opens March 10.

To be blunt, it’s not much of a market. And that might be putting it mildly when you consider that the “headliners” in the group are the likes of Brian Hoyer, Ryan Mallet, Colt McCoy, Matt Moore and Mark Sanchez.

There are recent first-round draftees, such as Tennessee’s Jake Locker and Minnesota’s Christian Ponder, who have washed out with their current clubs.

And a couple of golden oldies in Michael Vick and Matt Hasselbeck — both considered among the top players at their position in their heyday but now past their prime at ages 34 and 39, respectively.

Beyond that, there are the likes of Tyrod Taylor, Jimmy Clausen, Joe Webb, Dan Orlovsky and Jordan Palmer. Anybody in that group do anything for you?

Didn’t think so.

“If I had to win one game with that group, I’d pick Hasselbeck — and he’s 39,” said Rick Venturi, a longtime NFL coach now working as a radio analyst in Indianapolis.

Considering that list, Venturi said the Rams “may be boxed in” at the QB position unless they can manufacture a trade or draft somebody in a lean crop of college quarterbacks.

The Rams’ Shaun Hill also is on the list of 22 unrestricted free-agent quarterbacks, and the Rams at this point would like to bring him back — as a backup.

Even by signing one of the “headliners” in the free-agent group, to a large degree you’d be going more on projection than production.

Some examples:

Hoyer • He’s had stints with four teams over his six NFL seasons and has played in only 32 games, with 17 starts. Most of that playing time has come in Cleveland the past two seasons, where he’s 10-6 as a starter.

Hoyer’s numbers aren’t impressive; he completed only 55.3 percent of his passes in 14 games (13 starts) last season, throwing more interceptions (13) than TD passes (12) and posting a sub-par 76.5 passer rating.

But Hoyer, 29, is high on intangibles, including leadership and competitiveness. It looks as if the Browns aren’t ready to give up on Johnny Manziel. And it looks as if Hoyer wants to go elsewhere, somewhere where he has a legitimate chance to be a starter.

Mallett • He has played even less than Hoyer. In his first three NFL seasons, Mallett, 26, threw only four passes in the regular season. He threw 75 times last year for Houston, for which he had two starts.

He was very effective in his first start, completing 20 of 30 passes for 211 yards in a 23-7 victory in Cleveland on Nov. 16. His day included two touchdowns, one interception and a 95.3 passer rating.

But he suffered a torn pectoral muscle in the game, and tried to tough it out the next week against Cincinnati. After waiting 3½ years for a starting opportunity, he wanted to keep going.

That showed toughness, but all in all it was a bad idea. He completed only 21 of 45 passes and threw an interception in a 22-13 loss to the Bengals and underwent season-ending surgery after that contest.

Houston seems like a good spot for Mallett — the Texans run the same offense as Mallet had in New England, where he spent his first three seasons. (Houston coach Bill O’Brien is a former Patriots assistant.)

Moore • There was a time when he looked like an up-and-coming QB. After guiding the Panthers to a 4-1 record to conclude the 2009 season, he opened 2010 as the starter. But things didn’t go well. He threw three interceptions in the season opener, went 1-4 as a starter and suffered a season-ending shoulder injury in early November.

Moore, 30, started 12 games in 2011 for Miami, but has thrown only 29 passes in five games since the Dolphins drafted Ryan Tannehill in 2012.

Trade bait • Besides free agency, there’s also the trade market. But the Rams have only five draft picks this season — they’ve used all of the bounty of picks they received in the so-called “RGIII Trade of 2012.” So they would have to tap into future draft classes, or trade players on their current roster, to make something happen trade-wise.

Around the league, Jay Cutler, Chase Daniel, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Nick Foles, and Mike Glennon have been mentioned as possible trade options.

Cutler is the most accomplished of that group, showing flashes of brilliance but also lacking the leadership skills necessary to be a franchise QB. He’s expected to return to Chicago under new head coach John Fox and new offensive coordinator Adam Gase, in part because he’ll be entering only the second year of a seven-year, $126.7 million extension.

That monster deal makes a trade very difficult because a team acquiring Cutler would inherit his contract — at least the base salary. And Cutler is due to make $15.5 million in base salary this year. If the Rams made that trade, it would be all-but impossible to keep Bradford and his $12.85 million base salary for ’15.
 

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Man, we're in a tough spot. Bradford is clearly better than any of the free agents. But we don't know how much he can play. And are we willing to pay him the 12 mil he's owed? If so, how much would that affect our ability to sign guys to protect him? We're not as needy at multiple positions as we have been in the past. But the offensive line absolutely needs an upgrade. We need more depth at LB too.
 

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Free-agent quarterback options for 2015

• By Jim Thomas

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/foot...cle_b571193a-1472-5869-bc7c-52c7febf85aa.html

There are 22 NFL quarterbacks scheduled for unrestricted free agency, according to the NFL Players Association.

WORTH A LOOK?

Matt Hasselbeck, Indianapolis

This would have been a great idea three or four years ago. But not now, at age 39.

Shaun Hill, Rams

He holds up well compared to others on the list. The Rams would like to re-sign him as a backup.

Brian Hoyer, Cleveland

Some think he’s the best option among unrestricted free agents, and probably will be available.

Jake Locker, Tennessee

It looks as if the Titans could be done with the former No. 8 overall draft pick.

Ryan Mallett, Houston

Tall, strong-armed, but only 79 career passes. Indications are that he will stay with the Texans.

Colt McCoy, Washington

Nothing special about the former Texas star, but he played pretty well in four starts in 2014.

Matt Moore, Miami

Couldn’t capitalize on his chance to start at Carolina in 2010. Might not get another chance.

Christian Ponder, Minnesota

Taken four spots behind Locker in 2011; 47 turnovers, sacked 95 times, in 38 career games.

Mark Sanchez, Philadelphia

Rams not interested last year, why would they be now? Has been intercepted 80 times in 71 games.

Michael Vick, New York Jets

Not expected to return to Jets. Now 34, he still can run a bit — but not like in the glory days.

OTHER UNRESTRICTED FREE-AGENT QUARTERBACKS

Jason Campbell, Cincinnati; Jimmy Clausen, Chicago; Matt Flynn, Green Bay; Blaine Gabbert, San Francisco; Tarvaris Jackson, Seattle; Josh Johnson, San Francisco; Dan Orlovsky, Detroit; Jordan Palmer, Tennessee; Tyrod Taylor, Baltimore; Tyler Thigpen, Cleveland; Scott Tolzein, Green Bay; Joe Webb, Carolina.

TRADE BAIT?

These players aren’t free agents, but could be available via trade:

Jay Cutler, Chicago

You’d inherit a contract that calls for him to make a $15.5 million base salary in 2015.

Chase Daniel, Kansas City

Has thrown only 75 passes in six NFL seasons and is due to make $3.75 million in base salary this year.

Ryan Fitzpatrick, Houston

Former Rams draft pick coming off career year stats-wise. He is due $3.25 million base pay.

Nick Foles, Philadelphia

Rams sources have strongly denied to Post-Dispatch earlier Foles trade rumors.

Mike Glennon, Tampa Bay

Has talent to be starter; recent release of Josh McCown means he’s probably staying put.
 

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If Sam gets hurt again we are screwed. No long term answers to be had. I think Matt Moore is the best QB target in free agency.
 

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That is exactly why the Rams should have at least played and held onto Keenum and Gilbert. Very poor move.
 

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That is exactly why the Rams should have at least played and held onto Keenum and Gilbert. Very poor move.

So they could have had two more QBs on the roster that weren't the answer?
 

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That is exactly why the Rams should have at least played and held onto Keenum and Gilbert. Very poor move.
I'm sure they would have... had either shown any promise whatsoever in practice.

Neither got played (or held onto at the expense of a regular roster spot) because they just were not good. Period.
 

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If we can't get a top 4 QB in a weak class, I don't consider giving up, but would consider other risks, such as a QB who has a lot of good attributes, and only a couple of bad ones. Kevin Hogan for example, if you think you can change his long throwing motion, and spotty footwork. That is if the good, and the bad line up to our likings. Free agents, Sanchez, Mallet, or Moore, maybe, but only to compete with Hill. Maybe, there will be a better class next year.