Should the NFL put a salary cap on each position?

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I've heard chatter that the NFL owners were thinking of putting a salary cap on the QB position. I've heard arguments on both sides that makes sense but will the players go for it in the new CBA?
As fan I'm all for it. I think one player taking up at least 25% of the teams cap is insane. We've all seen the elite QB on a bad team IE Arron Rodgers and it's almost impossible to win like that in today's NFL. I think if players were smart they would realize it would benefit them in the long run if they are in it to win it rather than the pay me now attitude that is sweeping the thru the NFL like wildfire.

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No they shouldn’t and I doubt you ever get the players union to get their members to agree to it anyways.
 

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Interesting that earlier Vinny perfectly summarized my thoughts on the cap, salaries and profits.


View: https://mobile.twitter.com/VinnyBonsignore/status/1169254312431632391


I see what he's saying,

However, I think it would make the league more competitive in the long run. NFL teams are huge by comparison to other leagues like the NBA or even baseball. I've heard it broke down as it would be like Free Agency. Every position would have a value, QB's being the highest valued, then WR's and so on. It doesn't save the owners any money either in fact it would help your UDFA's and special teamers make more money than they do now. So would the players really be against it? Or only the outspoken players that we've grown accustom to?
 

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Bad idea. Every decent player will want to be paid the top cap amount for their position. Teams would end up overpaying more players that way.
 

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I've heard chatter that the NFL owners were thinking of putting a salary cap on the QB position. I've heard arguments on both sides that makes sense but will the players go for it in the new CBA?
As fan I'm all for it. I think one player taking up at least 25% of the teams cap is insane. We've all seen the elite QB on a bad team IE Arron Rodgers and it's almost impossible to win like that in today's NFL. I think if players were smart they would realize it would benefit them in the long run if they are in it to win it rather than the pay me now attitude that is sweeping the thru the NFL like wildfire.

Let the mayhem begin
I think it's a bad idea to put a cap on just the QB position.

BUT, I have always believed (since the QB is treated differently than others in terms of special tackling rules, etc), special rules could apply to QB related to salary cap. In other word, QB position DOESN'T HAVE A CAP. Go ahead and let the market dictate what a QB is worth (should be fine with players), but have it not impact the salary cap for teams since it is off the books, so to speak.

Best of both worlds.
 

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I see what he's saying,

However, I think it would make the league more competitive in the long run. NFL teams are huge by comparison to other leagues like the NBA or even baseball. I've heard it broke down as it would be like Free Agency. Every position would have a value, QB's being the highest valued, then WR's and so on. It doesn't save the owners any money either in fact it would help your UDFA's and special teamers make more money than they do now. So would the players really be against it? Or only the outspoken players that we've grown accustom to?
My argument would be Aaron Donald. You set a cap on DT then he comes around and what happens? You set a cap on TE and what happens to Gronk or Kelce or the next Tony Gonzalez. Why cap people? The NFL and it’s players have never had it this good.
 

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Why not set a cap on how much ANY player can count towards the total cap? For example, no player can average more than 20% of the total cap...something like that. Or even have tiers of cap % that the team can alot to any position(s) they want. Not sure that even makes sense....just spit ballin here.
 

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Why not set a cap on how much ANY player can count towards the total cap? For example, no player can average more than 20% of the total cap...something like that. Or even have tiers of cap % that the team can alot to any position(s) they want. Not sure that even makes sense....just spit ballin here.

The issue with that is that it can make a player outright unaffordable if the market value exceeds cap percentage. Optimal solution imo is to raise the salary cap and floor relative to increasing market changes
 

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*shrugs...I know that guaranteed contracts are normal in MLB (don't know/care about the NBA). The sport doesn't involve massive collisions and is a safer sport with more playing years for the average pro. Jared's contract is crazy good as far as gtd money (what, $110 million of $135 million is gtd?), but it isn't the norm at all. Love of the game is the huge draw and always will be. But what if a player who is capable of being a star in either sport adds the weight of capped contracts as reason to go MLB vs the NFL when sports decisions have to be made at the college level?

Maybe it matters, maybe not. When money got better in the NFL, MLB, etc in the 70's and 80's, my former favorite individual sport (boxing) lost talent and became irrelevant, especially after Tyson. Of course it didn';t help that pro boxing was very corrupt and the rise of MMA....Don't think the NFL can afford to lose great talent..
 

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Fans need to put a cost cap on tickets and let that drive the salaries that are getting absurd.

*fantasy I know
 

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Price controls just don't work, and why would you want to do that anyway? Wouldn't you want the Aaron Donald's of the world incentivized to be all that they can be? Instead of just saying, no matter what, defensive tackles are only worth this predetermined percentage of their team's cap.

You already have Brady working around the cap, and that's kind of your blackmarket example of supply meeting demand anyway. It always comes at a cost as well, you have to pay people to look the other way, you have to pay the middle man, in this case Guerrero and his staff.

In the end, you may have created some parity, but you've also consolidated power to Goodell, and ultimately given the Patriots (slimy as they are) an advantage. Regulation begets more regulation, rules pile upon rules, contradicting each other and consolidating even more power, standing in the way of supply meeting demand, and at what cost and profit to whom?

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/report-patriots-pay-a-brady-owned-company-run-by-suspect-partner/