Should Brock Osweiler play Sunday?

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When would you replace Peyton?


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LACHAMP46

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Don't know about you guys, but it's obvious to ME that Brock is better than Peyton and gives Denver the better chance to win. The running game is better, and he's a superior thrower for the Denver play-action passes. If I was Kubiak, I'd have Brock warming up in the bullpen just in case they start slowly, and Peyton looks 50 years old.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ould-start-brock-osweiler-over-peyton-manning

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ncos-wrs-peyton-like-charmin-osweiler-has-zip

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...eyton-manning-john-elway-super-bowl/79722928/

Things changed once Osweiler played — even if it appears he’ll finish the season in the same place he started it.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ler-from-broncos-starter-to-super-bowl-backup

Brock Osweiler: From Broncos' starter to Super Bowl backup
  • By Marc Sessler
Let's go back for a minute to the 2014 season.

It's early November, and the Denver Broncos are tearing into the Oakland Raiders. Up 41-10, coach John Fox makes the move to yank quarterback Peyton Manning, giving the largely anonymous Brock Osweiler a rare chance to register meaningful snaps.

With the exuberance of a puppy, Osweiler rips off his baseball cap, grabs his helmet and heads for the field -- only to see Peyton re-enter the game. Network cameras catch Osweiler pausing and flipping his arm in the air in semi-disgust, as if to say: Will I ever play behind this guy?

The moment went viral, leaving reporters to seek out Osweiler for comment. Instead of delivering snark, though, he quickly defused the situation, explaining what ran through his mind: "Am I going in? Am I not going in? But no, there's absolutely no hard feelings or anything like that. We're all just having a good laugh. It's funny that it got caught on tape."

Twelve months later, something else was caught on tape: Osweiler's first start.

In a 17-15 win over the Bears, the fourth-year signal-caller put all his unseen work into play with a two-touchdown effort against Chicago's John Fox, the coach who drafted Osweiler back in 2012. Most importantly, Osweiler didn't turn the ball over, a welcome change after watching Manning -- batteredand benched -- throw a league-leading 17 picks over the first 10 weeks of the season.

With Brock on the field, the run game sprang to life, and Osweiler looked like a better fit in coach Gary Kubiak's rollout-heavy pass attack. It raised all sorts of questions about Osweiler's potential -- and the ticking clock on Manning's Hall of Fame career.

We all know what happened next. Despite accumulating a 5-2 record, it was curtains for Osweiler after he threw a pair of picks in a Week 17 game against the Chargers. Riding in on his white stallion, Manning took over, capped off the victory and now sits four quarters away from going out on top inSuper Bowl 50. All the attention surrounding Peyton has thrust Osweiler back into the shadows after a season that ultimately feels ... weird.

"I really haven't thought about it," Osweiler said of his benching on Monday. "Since Peyton came into the game against San Diego, we've won two huge football games, and as long as we're winning, I'm going to be the happiest guy in the locker room. I don't need to tell you this, but I'm going to: Football's the ultimate team sport. It truly is every single Sunday, Thursday, whatever the day is, it truly takes a whole team to win a game. As long as we keep winning football games, shoot, I don't care who's under center."

But Brock, this could have been you. Isn't there a part of you that wants to be out there?

"Absolutely. Absolutely. If I said it was easy to sit the past two games and watch, I'd completely be lying," Osweiler said. "So, it is. It's difficult to sit back and watch. As a competitor, you want be out there and in the fire with your teammates. You want to be in the huddle and have your hand on the ball every single play, but bottom line: Coach Kubiak is doing what he believes is best for the football team, and I fully support that, and I support this team 100 percent."

Just another company man talking the company line?

I don't think so. Osweiler strikes me as the ultimate example of why more quarterbacks should sit and learn behind players like Manning. It's not just the film study and mental reps, although you're getting a master class on those topics under Peyton -- it's the holistic development at the most important position in sports.

Osweiler is extremely polished, almost suspiciously so, but he's equally genuine: smitten with the game and totally won over to the concept of team, even at the expense of fast-tracking his slow-cooked career. He'll be a free agent this offseason -- and his seven starts give general managers plenty to think about -- but if there's a silver lining to being shuttled into the background again, it's Osweiler's public response to adversity.

Even when Hall of Fame legend John Elway -- Denver's general manager -- told reporters this week that the Broncos "wouldn't be here without Brock," the young quarterback refused the credit.

"That certainly means a lot to me, but at the same time, I don't really view it like that," Osweiler said of the praise. "Those seven weeks when I was out there playing, I truly believe that we were winning as a team. It took every single guy on Sunday to get those wins. Obviously, I really appreciate that compliment, but I think that's what makes this football team so special, is all year long, whether Peyton was the starter or I was the starter, we were winning as a team, and that's what truly got us here."

What Osweiler won't tell you is that, behind the scenes, he organized a dinner for the entire Broncos offense after the team landed in the Bay Area. Manning went out of his way to share that, while echoing Elway to say: "Brock Osweiler did a great job; we would not be here without the job that he did in the games that he played in."

During the league's frantic Opening Night festivities on Monday, it was as if reporters wanted to see Osweiler finally crack and admit that he's tweaked to lose the job -- but question after question was met with grace.

He quickly dismissed a question about getting the starting job back next season, saying: "I haven't even thought about that. I am 100 percent focused on the Carolina Panthers' defense and getting prepared for the Super Bowl on Sunday."

Brock -- come on! No dice.

"I want to be the best teammate I can possibly be on a daily basis, and I want to be the hardest working player on our team. And I want to be the hardest working player in the National Football League," Osweiler said. "I believe that nothing beats hard work, and combine that with being a great teammate, and everything takes care of itself."

The cynical among us will have a field day with these lines, but I couldn't help but walk away feeling something else: I buy it.

Osweiler's a throwback to the past, but with a tantalizing future in the National Football League.

Sunday is Peyton's time, but Brock's day will come.

Could it be Sunday????? Stay tuned! :mrburnsevil:
 

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Well, if Payton stinks it up and they don't pull him for Brock, that may be the end of Brock wanting to be in Denver. If that's the case, I know a team with a good defense, top runningback, and is in need of a QB.
 

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Well, if Payton stinks it up and they don't pull him for Brock, that may be the end of Brock wanting to be in Denver. If that's the case, I know a team with a good defense, top runningback, and is in need of a QB.

Agreed as much as he is saying the right thing and looking the part he is human.So he may feel cheated or disrespected if Manning is not pulled because he was ineffective and they lose.
 

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You guys are really neglecting the boobies thread lately. It's not fair.
 

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Its a great question IMO
Hate to see them sacrifice the entire team on Manning behalf
Play to win. If Manning has his deer in headlights, typical big game look on him, put Osweiler in
 

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Osweiler got yanked because he was playing terribly against SD and was about to cost the Broncos the #1 seed. Manning has done enough for them to reach the Super Bowl. They need to see it through with him. Osweiler had his chance. He fumbled it away.
 

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Osweiler got yanked because he was playing terribly against SD and was about to cost the Broncos the #1 seed. Manning has done enough for them to reach the Super Bowl. They need to see it through with him. Osweiler had his chance. He fumbled it away.

how quickly people forget.

and it wasn't just that game. the offense was stuck in neutral before that game.

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No, it's Peyton Manning's last game, for better or worse!
 

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Osweiler got yanked because he was playing terribly against SD and was about to cost the Broncos the #1 seed. Manning has done enough for them to reach the Super Bowl. They need to see it through with him. Osweiler had his chance. He fumbled it away.

THIS...Osweiler couldn't handle San Diego, and has no experience in a Super Bowl. Peyton was rsted somewhat this year unlike the last Super Bowl he was in...I could see that great Broncos defense giving the veteran a chance to win this game.
 

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IMO there is no way you pull Manning in this game. For as poorly as Manning has played this season, he is still not only better than Brock, he gives Denver their only real shot at winning (at least offensively). And also IMO - there is no way Brock expects to play even if Manning is playing like the second coming of Nick Foles. Denver will live and die by Manning's arm and enormous cranium.
 

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He did a good job as a back up. That's his job. Manning is still a solid QB. So...unless it's a blowout in either direction or an injury...Brock sits!
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Well, if Payton stinks it up and they don't pull him for Brock, that may be the end of Brock wanting to be in Denver. If that's the case, I know a team with a good defense, top runningback, and is in need of a QB.

Would this count as a Horns front office sack of John Elway & the Broncs?
 

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For as poorly as Manning has played this season, he is still not only better than Brock, he gives Denver their only real shot at winning :thinking:(at least offensively).
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/den/2015.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MannPe00.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/O/OsweBr00.htm

Manning is still a solid QB.
If Peyton is solid, then Brock is better than solid..this year...Denver wins in spite of Peyton, not because of him. This type of sentimental thinking is the cause of many losses.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/quarterbackRating/seasontype/2

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/14879/brock-osweiler

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/1428/peyton-manning