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Putting Bradford’s supposed $25 million per year demand in context
Posted by Mike Florio on January 21, 2016

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As the 49ers get settled in with a new head coach, the team previously coached by their new coach needs to figure out whether it needs to get a new quarterback.

Based on a piece of information that surfaced this week, it probably does.

Jim Trotter of ESPN has reported (via TheBigLead.com) that Eagles quarterback Sam Bradford’s agent, Tom Condon, “came in asking for $25 million a year.”

That’s shocking in isolation. In context, it may make plenty of sense.

The $25 million likely was an opener. And it possibly was articulated in response to an opener from the Eagles.

When Condon was negotiated a pay cut with the Broncos for Peyton Manning, Denver initially asked for a $10 million reduction. from $19 million to $9 million. Condon and Manning were appropriately insulted; the Broncos then explained it was merely an opener. Ultimately, through the back-and-forth of negotiation, the salary was reduced to $15 million, with an opportunity to earn all of it back. (Win this weekend, and Manning will earn half of it back.)

As to Bradford, $25 million makes sense as an opener — especially if (for example) the Eagles had opened by offering something like $10 million per year. The $15 million spread would then be whittled down to, say, $16 million per year, which is hardly unreasonable in light of the current market.

With Bradford, the whittling process became problematic because no one knew how good he would be, after two seasons lost to a torn ACL. Now, the Eagles must put a value on a guy who started 14 games, completed 65 percent of his passes for 3,725 yards, threw 19 touchdown passes and 14 interceptions, and fumbled the ball 10 times, losing three. That value then will be compared to whatever another team would be willing to pay, and Bradford will have to make a decision.

Ultimately, he’s not getting $25 million per year. He also won’t be getting $10 million per year. The end result will be somewhere in between, as it would have been if the opening positions from Condon and the Eagles had sparked meaningful discussions resulting in a long-term deal.

The quibbling over money overlooks a very important factor in negotiations that ultimately went nowhere. Bradford feared that Chip Kelly would sign Bradford to a favorable contract and then trade that contract to another team. In the end, that dynamic may have had more to do with the failure to get a deal done than the predictable pie-in-the-sky and lowball numbers that get swapped early in negotiations.
 

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I'm glad he made it through the year healthly.

The Whiners could easily pick him up if they think he's a better QB for Chip's system than Craperdick.
 

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His AGENT might have asked for that much, so let's lay the blame where it should be if that's the case. But now Philly has no option to keep him without franchise tagging him, and he can explore the market. It will be interesting to see where he ends up.
 

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His AGENT might have asked for that much, so let's lay the blame where it should be if that's the case. But now Philly has no option to keep him without franchise tagging him, and he can explore the market. It will be interesting to see where he ends up.
While I agree with your sentiment, it was also his AGENT that wanted more money (and no pay cut) from the Rams forcing them to trade him and also his AGENT who apparently turned down Philly extension offer when he first got to Philly.
So it may be his AGENT making the call, but Sam is more than just along for the ride
 

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it doesn't matter what the agent's starting price is, only how much he ends up signing for. what kind of agent would walk to the bargaining table and say - my qb wants $10m a year. he wouldn't be an agent for long.

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Putting Bradford’s supposed $25 million per year demand in context
Posted by Mike Florio on January 21, 2016

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As the 49ers get settled in with a new head coach, the team previously coached by their new coach needs to figure out whether it needs to get a new quarterback.

Based on a piece of information that surfaced this week, it probably does.

Jim Trotter of ESPN has reported (via TheBigLead.com) that Eagles quarterback Sam Bradford’s agent, Tom Condon, “came in asking for $25 million a year.”

That’s shocking in isolation. In context, it may make plenty of sense.

The $25 million likely was an opener. And it possibly was articulated in response to an opener from the Eagles.

When Condon was negotiated a pay cut with the Broncos for Peyton Manning, Denver initially asked for a $10 million reduction. from $19 million to $9 million. Condon and Manning were appropriately insulted; the Broncos then explained it was merely an opener. Ultimately, through the back-and-forth of negotiation, the salary was reduced to $15 million, with an opportunity to earn all of it back. (Win this weekend, and Manning will earn half of it back.)

As to Bradford, $25 million makes sense as an opener — especially if (for example) the Eagles had opened by offering something like $10 million per year. The $15 million spread would then be whittled down to, say, $16 million per year, which is hardly unreasonable in light of the current market.

With Bradford, the whittling process became problematic because no one knew how good he would be, after two seasons lost to a torn ACL. Now, the Eagles must put a value on a guy who started 14 games, completed 65 percent of his passes for 3,725 yards, threw 19 touchdown passes and 14 interceptions, and fumbled the ball 10 times, losing three. That value then will be compared to whatever another team would be willing to pay, and Bradford will have to make a decision.

Ultimately, he’s not getting $25 million per year. He also won’t be getting $10 million per year. The end result will be somewhere in between, as it would have been if the opening positions from Condon and the Eagles had sparked meaningful discussions resulting in a long-term deal.

The quibbling over money overlooks a very important factor in negotiations that ultimately went nowhere. Bradford feared that Chip Kelly would sign Bradford to a favorable contract and then trade that contract to another team. In the end, that dynamic may have had more to do with the failure to get a deal done than the predictable pie-in-the-sky and lowball numbers that get swapped early in negotiations.
Some " Great Minds" here at ROD Have stated His value will probably come in at 15 Million a year. We'll see how close that is!!
 

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Some " Great Minds" here at ROD Have stated His value will probably come in at 15 Million a year. We'll see how close that is!!
And for that price the Rams should consider him as their veteran presence.
 

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I would want him back but at 1.5 million a year as a back up. He's average and yes he's better than what we have but still he's average and this offense is in need of playmakers not average
 

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I'm glad he made it through the year healthly.

The Whiners could easily pick him up if they think he's a better QB for Chip's system than Craperdick.

He missed three games so it wasn't as bad as the past but he did miss games.

I don't know why Kelly would want him though, he put up a lot of those numbers in garbage time and the "stat line" the author is citing is almost identical to Sanchez.

I don't know if any GM's that would give Bradford or Sanchez a contract for 15MIL and a starting job.
 

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Sanchez = backup. (a good one, but still a backup)
Bradford = OK starter. (if he stays healthy, you're ok!)
 

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As @shaunpinney rightly says - if he's healthy he's not going to be holding you back. He elevates the play of his offense and generally does a good job. I don't really get the hate for him. Stands tall in the pocket, accurate user pressure, excellent reader of a defense, looks after the football - but won't go downfield much - and has only average deep ball accuracy which understandably drives Everyone mad because when you miss deep you're missing touchdowns...

A team could do a lot worse than a healthy Sam Bradford - especially if he's healthy for a stretch and gets to play in the same system or more than a year, which has only ever happened once in his career.

I think the problem is his durability. He's basically Joe Flacco without the deep ball accuracy or Matt Ryan with an injury plagued history. That's his level. Second tier. You can win super bowls with those guys - Eli, Flacco etc. You can't with last years Foles, Keenum, Hoyer, Schaub, Sanchez, Osweiler - that sort of guy who make big mistakes at bad times and cost you games.
 

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Let's see...that is about $500,000- per check down pass. (n) Sounds good to me.(y)

Maybe he can get Chip fired from another job!:burp:
 

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As @shaunpinney rightly says - if he's healthy he's not going to be holding you back. He elevates the play of his offense and generally does a good job. I don't really get the hate for him. Stands tall in the pocket, accurate user pressure, excellent reader of a defense, looks after the football - but won't go downfield much - and has only average deep ball accuracy which understandably drives Everyone mad because when you miss deep you're missing touchdowns...

A team could do a lot worse than a healthy Sam Bradford - especially if he's healthy for a stretch and gets to play in the same system or more than a year, which has only ever happened once in his career.

I think the problem is his durability. He's basically Joe Flacco without the deep ball accuracy or Matt Ryan with an injury plagued history. That's his level. Second tier. You can win super bowls with those guys - Eli, Flacco etc. You can't with last years Foles, Keenum, Hoyer, Schaub, Sanchez, Osweiler - that sort of guy who make big mistakes at bad times and cost you games.

Sorry but Bradford is not as good as Flacco and he isn't even close to Ryan. I don't think many guys would agree that Bradford is even a top 20 QB.

Stands tall in the pocket, not really. Accurate? not Bradford unless it's a dink pass. Excellent at reading defenses..........that's actually aknock on him and has been the entire time he's played in the NFL.

Why is it that people who like Bradford always say different opinions about him are hate?