Roethlisberger says Steelers will keep going for two

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It's all fun and games until one of their players gets injured going for two points.
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Roethlisberger says Steelers will keep going for two
Posted by Michael David Smith on September 24, 2015

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The Steelers went for two after their first two touchdowns to jump out to a 16-3 lead on Sunday, an unheard of approach in an NFL where coaches only go for two when they need the points late in games. Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisbergersays they won’t change that approach.

Oh, we’re going to keep doing it,” Roethlisberger said, via ESPN. “We don’t practice it this much to not do it. We practice it every single day. . . . I tried to tell you guys early on that we would do it, and I think you guys kind of didn’t quite believe it. But it’s something we feel comfortable with.”

The Steelers’ approach is smart: They’re 3-for-3 on two-point conversions while kicker Josh Scobee is 4-for-5 on one-point kicks. As long as they’re averaging 2.0 points per two-point conversion attempt and 0.8 points per one-point kick attempt, they’d be foolish not to keep going for two early in games.

The big question is why the Steelers are the only team going for two early in games. Every team should at least be thinking about going for two as the default approach after a touchdown, and for a team with a good goal line offense and/or a shaky kicker, going for two is the clearly superior choice. The Steelers should keep going for two, and other teams should follow suit.
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Until they go 1 for their next 5 and maybe lose a close game because they left points on the table.
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To quote Madden, “the team who scores the most points today is gonna win this game!”
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Ridiculously small sample size for calling the steelers ‘smart’. Fact is the average 2 pt conversion rate historically is below 50% so the right conservative play is still to kick as long as kickers keep making upwards of 95% of their PATs. We’ll see how aggressive the steelers are when they start getting stopped.
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They won’t get them all. The one they won’t get will be in an AFCN slugfest and they’ll lose by one point. Then let’s see if everyone is ok with “on average” it’s better.
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I think that is the Eagles plan, when they eventually find the end zone.:sneaky:
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It only really makes sense if you have a piss-poor kicker. Even now, the XP should be near automatic. If you miss one or two conversions, there are so few TDs scored in a game that by the end of it, just those missed could be the difference between needing a FG or TD at the end. Or of a win vs. overtime, etc. Over the course of a year, it might look like it made statistical sense to go for it if you convert over 50% but you have to go game by game since it is about getting wins.
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other teams haven’t followed suit because unlike the Steelers some “other teams” have actually played teams with a defense.
 

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I like this approach....there are plays that could be drawn up that will work to pick up several yards most times if executed correctly. If you have confidence in succeeding 50% of the time it is a no brainer really, depending on the opponent. Having confidence in your O to have success throughout a game helps too.
 

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Plus Scobee has been awful this year for them, his missed fgs would have made some different situations where the Steelers could have beaten the Pats week 1.
 

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Damn the 2 point conversion attempts....Stop this hurry up attack.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/09/22/pittsburghs-pace-makes-them-more-potent/

Rank Wk 2 No-Huddle % 2015 No-Huddle % Wk 2 Seconds/Snap 2015 Seconds/Snap
1 Philadelphia (72.7%) Philadelphia (75.6%) Houston (20.1) Houston (20.2)
2 Green Bay (57.8%) Green Bay (45.3%) Philadelphia (21.3) Philadelphia (21.5)
3 Pittsburgh (48.1%) N.Y. Giants (41.3%) New England (23.6) N.Y. Giants (24.4)
4 New England (44.7%) Chicago (33.1%) Detroit (24.8) Baltimore (25.1)
5 N.Y. Giants (30.8%) New England (29.1%) Baltimore (26.1) Jacksonville (25.5)


Not that we needed another reason to sing their praises, but the Steelers offense kicked the pace into high gear during their shredding of the 49ers. Ben Roethlisberger completed 88 percent of 16 hurry-up passes, for a gaudy 17.4 yards per attempt average, and a pair of touchdowns. Of course, he was just fine after huddles too, completing 64 percent and averaging 8.3 yards, with one score, on those 11 throws. Antonio Brown caught all seven of his no-huddle targets, for 168 yards and a touchdown. He hauled in two of four passes thrown in his direction after Pittsburgh huddled, for 27 yards – perhaps a function of the 49ers having more pre-snap time to locate and account for him.

The prospect of Pittsburgh going with a 30-percent-or-higher hurry-up rate, with Le’Veon Bell and Martavis Bryant coming back, borders on drool-worthy. Last season the Steelers no-huddle rate ranked eighth, but they only broke out the hurry-up on roughly 16 percent of snaps, which was well below the top-tempoed offenses. Pittsburgh cranked the pace during the first four weeks of 2014 (32.8 percent), and slowed down the rest of the way (10.3 percent), so we’ll be keep a close eye on if it looks like it will stick this time around.
 

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Not so sure that would be a smart move by the Steelers. That is just another opportunity for Big Ben to get laid the f-ck out.
They're playin in the dome so they don't have to worry about the elements. They should try kickin this week. If not, Michael Vick might just be suiting up for a few games.
 

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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...steelers-plan-to-keep-going-for-two-after-tds

If there is a point-after-try revolution on the way, the Pittsburgh Steelers are at the forefront.

Ben Roethlisberger zipped two passes for two-point conversions following early touchdowns Sunday in the Steelers' 43-18 win over the San Francisco 49ers.

Every game, all season

Pittsburgh is three for three on two-point tries this season, after the extra point was moved back to the 15-yard line. Pittsburgh became the first team in 17 years to successfully convert a two-point try in the first quarter. And they won't stop going for two either.

"Oh, we're going to keep doing it," Roethlisberger said, via ESPN.com. "We don't practice it this much to not do it. We practice it every single day. ... I tried to tell you guys early on that we would do it, and I think you guys kind of didn't quite believe it. But it's something we feel comfortable with."

Thorough two games, kickers have missed nine extra points (94.2 percent) after making them at a 99.4 percent clip from the shorter distance in 2014. Steelers kicker Josh Scobee is a member of the missed-kick club, after failing to convert the extra point following Pittsburgh's third touchdown Sunday.

For Big Ben, converting two points provides a strategic advantage over opponents, which makes the risk worth the potential reward.

"If you're up 8-0 and they go score, they have a decision to make," said Roethlisberger of opponents. "We feel like we're a team that's going to do it enough that it's going to be hard to get a beat on us."

Coach Mike Tomlin said the Steelers wouldn't enter a game planning to go for two at a greater rate, but rather make the determination based on game flow.

"As we start to play, particularly work the ball down the field on the drive that produced the touchdowns before the point after, we got a little inclination of maybe what their personality might be at least in terms of matching our personnel," Tomlin said, via PennLive.com.

In other words: If the Steelers are whooping an opponent up and down the field -- like Sunday -- they'll go for two to drive the dagger home.


QUESTION: Aren't two point conversions live and returnable balls now with the new rules?