Right tackle imperative to Rams O-line success in 2020

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Right tackle imperative to Rams O-line success in 2020

The Rams have a decision to make at right tackle, and modern football theory suggests it's every bit as important as the one they made at left tackle.

Andrew Whitworth is back at age 38 to protect quarterback Jared Goff's blind side. But while the right tackle position may not have inspired a Michael Lewis best-seller, it's no less critical to any storybook season.

"The truth is, anybody who has been paying close attention to the league the last few years realizes (or at least should) that there is no longer a distinction between the two positions on the edges of a team's offensive line," former NFL lineman Ross Tucker wrote last summer.

Two years prior, an Andy Benoit article "Death of the Blind Side" proclaimed, "We'll soon see right tackles valued equally to left tackles."

While we aren't yet there in terms of contract numbers, the sentiment was recently echoed by NFL Network commentator Bucky Brooks.


View: https://twitter.com/buckybrooks/status/1260794572839378949?s=21


And Sean McVay agrees.

"Now you see a lot of these best rushers, like you talk about, they're going to say, 'Let's find the matchup that we want'," the Rams head coach said. "And in a lot of instances, they're rushing that guy off the right side."

"Really all five linemen can be stressed at any point in time based on how the defense aligns or tries to overload your protections," Rams offensive coordinator Kevin O'Connell added.

But it's more than just what opponents are trying to accomplish on defense. It's also system-specific on offense. According to McVay, "the things that we're asking (left and right tackle) to do are very similar across the board in our run game, in our protections."

Unfortunately for the 2019 Rams, things did not go according to plan at right tackle, or really anywhere up front.

As Pro Football Focus put it, for the Rams offensive line, "it all came crashing back down to earth, and they finished (2019) with only the Miami Dolphins ranked lower."

In particular, the author pointed to right tackle Rob Havenstein and his injury-plagued season as a primary reason for the collective decline.

"Havenstein had four straight seasons with a PFF grade of at least 69.7 and was coming off the best year of his career (83.6) before collapsing to an overall figure of 59.0 last year," Sam Monson wrote. "Typically, that means he was struggling through some kind of physical issue or injury, and you would expect some kind of bounce-back in 2020."

"(Rob) was pushing through some injuries that I do think led to not seeing him play consistently at the level we're accustomed to," McVay said, lending credence to PFF's evaluation that Havenstein was less than 100 percent, even before he sustained a knee injury in Week 10 at Pittsburgh. He also echoed PFF's optimistic prediction for 2020.

"I'm fully confident that he'll get back to that," McVay continued. "He's feeling good."

When Havenstein missed the final seven games, rookie third-round pick Bobby Evans stepped in with mixed results, individually. But overall, the offense thrived.

"I personally, just watching the tape and studying those guys, I've got a ton of confidence in both of them," O'Connell said. "It's going to be a great situation for us to have the depth there."

To hear McVay tell it, it sounds like he's inclined to trust Havenstein's track record.

"I thought Bobby Evans, being able to step in and play well towards the latter half of the season was really good for his confidence," McVay said. "But I'm not convinced that guy couldn't play guard, either."

I can't think of many instances in the past few years in which McVay has floated an idea like that – Evans playing guard, not starting at right tackle – without having a pretty solid sense that he's leaning that direction.

If that's the way it plays out, Evans could join David Edwards and Austin Corbett in a three-for-two battle at guard. (After starting the first six games of last season at left guard, Joe Noteboom may also be in that mix.)

So many things could happen between now and Week 1, including the Rams being able to orchestrate a trade or collecting another option off the waiver wire during roster cuts. And complicating matters is the lack of on-field work so far in 2020.

"Until we get out and are really playing football again, that's the challenging part of what these times entail," McVay noted.

For the moment, the options presented here reinforce the logic behind why the Rams did not invest draft capital in their offensive line this April. It's also worth noting, they'll be able to leverage that depth with an extra lineman active on game day thanks to the new Collective Bargaining Agreement.

Havenstein may not have Whitworth's resume, but he is in his prime and carries the second-largest cap hit in the position group this season. It sounds like he'll get the first right of refusal at right tackle, and the Rams need him to recapture his Pro Bowl-worthy form.

"For us, we feel great about Whitworth and Havenstein," McVay said. "We value those positions equally."

"The importance of having both of those edges being firm and being something that we can have a lot of confidence in is huge," O'Connell said. "And I think that's where we're at right now."
 

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Lot’s of good nuggets in there;

"Havenstein had four straight seasons with a PFF grade of at least 69.7 and was coming off the best year of his career (83.6) before collapsing to an overall figure of 59.0 last year," Sam Monson wrote. "Typically, that means he was struggling through some kind of physical issue or injury, and you would expect some kind of bounce-back in 2020."

Easy to forget.


"I personally, just watching the tape and studying those guys, I've got a ton of confidence in both of them," O'Connell said. "It's going to be a great situation for us to have the depth there."

Solid endorsement from a guy that needs this oline to work for his offense to work.


"I thought Bobby Evans, being able to step in and play well towards the latter half of the season was really good for his confidence," McVay said. "But I'm not convinced that guy couldn't play guard, either."

I can't think of many instances in the past few years in which McVay has floated an idea like that – Evans playing guard, not starting at right tackle – without having a pretty solid sense that he's leaning that direction.

A lot of folks have whispered this. (y)


It's also worth noting, they'll be able to leverage that depth with an extra lineman active on game day thanks to the new Collective Bargaining Agreement.

This does seem well timed for us.
 

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"(Rob) was pushing through some injuries."

Well I guess that confirms what many suspected, explaining his declining performance even before the knee injury. Which means I guess we can expect him to start and hopefully return to 2018 form, which I think we need for the run game. That would free up some competition at C/G--looks like Evans might be in that G mix.
 

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Havenstein has been a very good RT. Earned an extension.

He is a young 28 (birthday was in May) unless he’s hurt... why wouldn’t he bounce back?

At $8M ave cap hit the next 3 seasons... he will range from 10-15th in top earnings (for RT). Seems about right.
 

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Rob Havenstein great run blocker always just holding up in pass protection. Bobby Evans came in and was a road grader at RT, however, the Rams have him help in pass protection and he survived.

I'm sure the goal is to get Havenstein healthy with the hope of him bouncing back as @CGI_Ram so eloquently communicates, however, @BonifayRam has posted several times, he feels the league has figured out Havenstein, that he can cover the edge and thus leading to his demise combined with the injury as well.

Overall, IMO, I do believe Evans could play Guard, but he played both Tackle positions at Oklahoma and unless Noteboom is totally recovered, the Rams will need a swing tackle. Hopefully that is Boom and Evans will get a chance to compete, but if Havenstein comes back to his previous form, great as because of the money the Rams could sure use somebody actually earning their keep now that they've moved on and have cap limitations.
 

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That's a nice vote of confidence McVay gave Havenstein. Rob just did enough in pass protection to get from giving up a sack, although it was close a number of times. He needs to be healthy to be as quick as he can to protect the edge. He did look too heavy last year so he needs to get back to 2018 weigh and maybe even a little lighter. I remember listening to him when he was drafted and thought he was going to be very dedicated to his craft. I bet he is working hard to get back to the top run blocker and good enough pass protector that got him that nice extension.

Evans has to be in the mix at OG should Havenstein regain his form and his job. It seemed like Edwards was solid next to Whit when he was at LG so moving him over to make room for Evans at RG is good possibility. Evans can still be the swing tackle along with Noteboom. The Rams have the pieces to get the offensive line back to form with Havenstein playing a big roll. Should Havenstein fail Evans is a decent backup at RT with some experience. The competition is going to be great for everyone and I expect the doubters to be pleasantly surprised.
 

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"For us, we feel great about Whitworth and Havenstein," McVay said."

:unsure:
For me ...... I just hope that both Joseph Noteboom & Bobby Evans are healthy & here & fully prepared for some very early serious heavy duty long term action as starting OT's this 2020 season.
 
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While I’ll agree it’s most urgent 79 gets his game back, Im a firm believer in it all begins with solid play from the Center
 

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While I’ll agree it’s most urgent 79 gets his game back, Im a firm believer in it all begins with solid play from the Center
Agree I use McVay's words here....I feel great about going with the plan of having Austin Blythe as our starting center for the first time. I believe he has good ability to master the mental side of being an NFL starting center in the NFL.

My only concerns with Blythe are on his physical side particularly when matched up against large strong DT's lining up over him. More often than not it will be a problem. I do expect a solid 2020 performance from Blythe.
 

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Agree I use McVay's words here....I feel great about going with the plan of having Austin Blythe as our starting center for the first time. I believe he has good ability to master the mental side of being an NFL starting center in the NFL.

My only concerns with Blythe are on his physical side particularly when matched up against large strong DT's lining up over him. More often than not it will be a problem. I do expect a solid 2020 performance from Blythe.
I could not agree more with your assessment on 66

Honestly I haven’t given up on Allen either, I was really hoping his wrestling background would provide us with the physicality we’ve been lacking at C.

I suppose we’ll know more as it plays out
 

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I remember listening to him when he was drafted and thought he was going to be very dedicated to his craft. I bet he is working hard to get back to the top run blocker and good enough pass protector that got him that nice extension.

If you are right, he’s doing just that... I doubt he was pleased with his own performance and the critique of his 2019 play. (y)
 

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"(Rob) was pushing through some injuries."

Well I guess that confirms what many suspected, explaining his declining performance even before the knee injury. Which means I guess we can expect him to start and hopefully return to 2018 form, which I think we need for the run game. That would free up some competition at C/G--looks like Evans might be in that G mix.

Injury has been the most likely explanation all along for his decline in play last year. Apart from losing Saffold and Sullivan, injuries in general were the biggest reason for the o-line struggles last year.

The Rams are notoriously tight-lipped about injuries. They were also ruthless in the offseason about getting rid of players (and coaches) who weren't getting it done for any reason including injury. There is a reason Havenstein is still on the roster with a relatively high salary.

This now explains a lot of the Rams' evident optimism about the line going forward. If Havenstein is back to form the entire line is immediately better, and as you say so are the running game and the depth.

The confidence in Havenstein coming from McVay and O'Connell is really encouraging.
 

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Bobby Evans came in and was a road grader at RT, however, the Rams have him help in pass protection and he survived.
I really don't see any of our Oline as road graders unfortunately. I'm surprised you view Evans as one.
 

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I really don't see any of our Oline as road graders unfortunately. I'm surprised you view Evans as one.

Really thought Evans was very strong at the point of attack, a couple of goal line runs against Arizona at the end of the year, right off of Evans backside.
 

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Really thought Evans was very strong at the point of attack, a couple of goal line runs against Arizona at the end of the year, right off of Evans backside.
what I liked about Evans play was at least he wasn't getting manhandled like our C/OGs . I think he could be a good guard but will be a liability on the outside due to his slow feet. Road grader to me is a player that destroys and punishes another player in the run game. I just dont see that in Evans at least not yet.
 

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I just dont see that in Evans at least not yet.

Again just going on some of the plays over him that led to touchdowns...Power at POA – Will explode out of stance in pure drive block reps to create a lot of push. Power comes from athleticism and dynamic burst, isn't a raw power player. Second effort once establishing momentum allows for clean finishes of wash out blocks and potential pancakes.
 

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Again just going on some of the plays over him that led to touchdowns...Power at POA – Will explode out of stance in pure drive block reps to create a lot of push. Power comes from athleticism and dynamic burst, isn't a raw power player. Second effort once establishing momentum allows for clean finishes of wash out blocks and potential pancakes.
I think this is one we are going to have to agree to disagree. I'm really hoping your right and I turn out to be 100% wrong because we need all the help we can get on the Oline.
 

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Havenstein does really well and traded before the deadline and we insert Evans at RT.