Rams won the RG3 trade, but have yet to become contenders

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It has been more than four years since the Los Angeles Rams and Washington Redskins consummated the blockbuster draft trade that allowed Washington to acquire quarterback Robert Griffin III and the Rams to spin those picks into eight players.

Much has happened to the nine players involved in that deal since. Griffin led Washington to an NFC East title and playoff appearance as a rookie, only to find himself released and signing with the Cleveland Browns a few years later.

Of the players the Rams acquired, only three remain on the active roster, another is still with the team but has an uncertain future, two have been released, one has been traded and another signed a free-agent mega-deal this offseason.

At the time the deal was made in March 2012, the Redskins received the No. 2 overall pick in exchange for the No. 6 overall pick and a second-round pick in 2012, plus a first-round pick in 2013 and 2014. The Rams continued dealing with some of those picks to get more picks, which brought the total haul to eight players.

Both teams hoped it was the type of transformative trade that would carry them to long-term success. Griffin was to be Washington's franchise quarterback. The many pieces the Rams acquired were supposed to be the catalyst for a perennial contender.

“[We have] no regrets," Rams coach Jeff Fisher said in 2014. "At the time it was a good deal for us and it was a good deal for Washington.”

To be absolutely clear, the Rams were and still are the winners of that trade, if for no other reason than the overall production and remaining pieces they still have compared to Washington.

But if the intent of that trade was to lay the foundation for a Rams renaissance, the type of deal that could turn the moribund franchise from a perennial loser to a consistent contender, well, the Rams have come up short.

“With the interest other teams had in our first-round pick, we found ourselves in a unique situation,” Fisher said at the time of the trade. “This trade gives us a great opportunity to immediately upgrade our team through the draft and then sustain our team’s improvement with valuable picks in future drafts.”

It is, perhaps, no surprise the only three players the Rams have remaining on the active roster from the deal are the three first-round picks: defensive tackle Michael Brockers, linebacker Alec Ogletree and offensive tackle Greg Robinson.

Players the Rams got with picks acquired from Washington or subsequent trades using those picks:

DT Michael Brockers
CB Janoris Jenkins (signed with Giants in 2016)
RB Isaiah Pead (released)
OL Rokevious Watkins (released)
LB Alec Ogletree
WR Stedman Bailey
RB Zac Stacy (traded to Jets in 2015)
OT Greg Robinson

Players the Redskins got in the trade with Rams:

QB Robert Griffin III (released, signed with Browns in 2016)

Brockers has been a solid, if unspectacular, starter in the middle of the line since he arrived as the No. 14 overall pick in 2012. In four seasons, Brockers has 153 tackles, 14.5 sacks, two forced fumbles and a fumble recovery in 61 games.

Ogletree, whom the Rams took 30th overall after a trade down in 2013, has all the makings of becoming the best player involved in the trade if he isn't already. In 36 games, he has amassed 272 tackles, 3.5 sacks, 10 forced fumbles and three interceptions. He's moving to middle linebacker in 2016 and will be asked to take the reins of a defense long led by the man he's replacing, James Laurinaitis.

Robinson has the smallest sample size after the Rams used the No. 2 pick on him in 2014, but he's also off to the shakiest start of the first-round trio. Robinson has started 28 games but has struggled with penalties (he has 24 accepted flags called on him) and in pass protection, where he has proved every bit as raw as observers expected coming out of Auburn.

Aside from that mixed bag of results, the Rams don't have much else to show for the trade. Cornerback Janoris Jenkins was right there with Ogletree in contention for best player in the deal but he signed a five-year, $62.5 million deal with the New York Giants in March. The Rams released running back Isaiah Pead and guard Rokevious Watkins and traded running back Zac Stacy for a seventh-round pick in 2015. Receiver Stedman Bailey is still with the team but it's unclear when or if he'll return to football after he was shot twice in the head on Nov. 24 of last year.

“If you recall, it was our first draft," Fisher said. "I personally looked at the roster prior to accepting this job and then immediately following after we hired [general manager] Les [Snead] we sat down and did an extensive review of the personnel and felt that we needed as many picks as we could possibly get to rebuild this roster.”

Washington, meanwhile, would undoubtedly love to have its picks back, especially considering the success it had in 2015 with 2012 fourth-round pick Kirk Cousins at quarterback. But while the Redskins and Rams have had similar results in terms of record in the four years since -- Washington is 26-38 and the Rams are 27-36-1 -- Washington has won two division crowns and been to the postseason twice.

To be fair, the Rams have had a tougher road in the rugged NFC West but haven't gotten much closer to their first playoff berth since 2004 and haven't had so much as a .500 season in four years under Fisher. And though the Rams have some talented young pieces such as defensive tackle Aaron Donald, end Robert Quinn and running back Todd Gurley to build around, all of those players were taken with picks that originally belonged to the team.

So while the Rams might have "won" the trade with Washington, the margin of victory hasn't been enough to turn into actual, meaningful wins where it counts most.
 

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the injuries to sam ruined whatever advantage the rams got out of the trade. trading him away made it worse.

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The Redskins have been to the Playoffs twice since the Trade ,

The Rams haven't even had a winning record , not sure how that's a win for the Rams
 

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The Redskins have been to the Playoffs twice since the Trade ,

The Rams haven't even had a winning record , not sure how that's a win for the Rams

Well as the article states, we are in the tougher division.

We still have 3 players from the deal.

Plus... Perhaps the biggest thing and it's not as easy to quantify... we had more flexibility in the draft such as dealing up for Tavon and the luxury of picking Donald instead of having to go OT because we didn't have the GRob pick.
 

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I don't think there's any doubt the Rams won the trade. RGIII has been a bust so far and the Rams have parlayed that into some considerable talent. So comparing the two teams success since then isn't that simple.

Yeah, the Redskins have made the playoffs twice and the Rams haven't had a winning season. But the skins had help with a weak division and their mid round pick Cousins has emerged as a decent quarterback. While the Rams have had quarterback problems since.

Using hindsight, drafting RGIII wouldn't help. He's gone in the toilet since his initial season. Now he's trying to resurrect his career in Cleveland, where quarterbacks go to die a slow death.

Its hard to quantify exactly what the Rams did get with that trade. Would they trade up for Tavon Austin if they didn't have that other first round pick? Would they draft Aaron Donald at 13 with only one pick and a huge need for a left tackle? Would Brockers be on the roster? Who would be the odd man out in the second round with Jenkins, Tru Johnson and Peade?

All in all the trade worked out good for the Rams. They got some quality players out of that. Basically, the only thing that has kept them from winning more is the quarterback position. Just some plain bad luck there. Bradford missed 25 out of 32 games. No one foresaw Foles' collapse. Now here they are with a talented team but a huge question mark at the most important position.
 

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When we get a tradable compensatory pick for Jenkins next draft, that will still be due to the trade. So the effects are not over yet.