Rams owner Stan Kroenke keeps mum on Warner Center game plan

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Rams owner Stan Kroenke keeps mum on Warner Center game plan​

“I assume he bought all that land not just to sit on it,” says Councilman Bob Blumenfield
LA Rams owner Stan Kroenke; rendering of new training facility (Getty, Gensler)
LA Rams owner Stan Kroenke; rendering of new training facility (Getty, Gensler)
JUL 6, 2023, 11:00 AM

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Trevor Bach

In a year filled with high-profile L.A. real estate deals, Stan Kroenke’s ranked among the biggest.

Last March, the billionaire developer and owner of the NFL’s Los Angeles Rams bought the Promenade, a “zombie mall” in the Warner Center district of Woodland Hills, for $150 million. A couple months later, in June, Kroenke added an adjacent site, the 13-story former Anthem Blue Cross office tower and surrounding block, for $175 million. In December he picked up The Village, a newer outdoor mall in the same area, for $325 million — creating a three-property, $650 million, 96-acre assemblage in a part of the San Fernando Valley that’s long been poised for major redevelopment.

In recent weeks, thanks to a new city planning application for a Rams practice facility at the Anthem site, the first iteration of Kroenke’s plan has been confirmed. But 16 months after The Kroenke Group’s first marquee Warner Center purchase, the billionaire still hasn’t shown his cards on his vision for a development that could end up as a signature new landmark for both Warner Center and the broader San Fernando Valley.

“I assume he bought all that land not just to sit on it,” said L.A. Councilmember Bob Blumenfield, who represents the area and has long championed Warner Center development. “I’m eager to see what he wants to do — I like getting things moving, and I think the investment would be very positive.”

Yet so far Kroenke — a lifelong businessman and longtime sports owner whose low-key personality once earned him the nickname “Silent Stan” — has been characteristically tight-lipped, revealing nothing of his wider plans. His firm The Kroenke Group also has not applied for any new projects and, despite widespread speculation, has not hinted at what’s to come. The firm also did not respond to an inquiry from TRD.

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The recent project application did illuminate Kroenke’s plans for the team, which plays its home games at the new SoFi Stadium in Inglewood, about 30 miles to the southeast of the Warner Center assemblage. The San Fernando Valley location is some 20 miles closer to SoFi than the team’s current practice facility at California Lutheran University in Thousand Oaks.

The document was filed by TKG Management, a subsidiary of The Kroenke Group, last month, and calls for two adjacent natural grass practice fields on the parking lot of the former Anthem building. It also outlines plans for a new, roughly 65,000-square-foot training facility near the fields, which would connect to the office building via a series of modular structures, and calls for the demolition of one existing 9,000-square-foot visitor center and one 6,400-square-foot movie theater building that was part of the shuttered Promenade mall.

The team has said the training facility will be temporary, so the team can move in later this year while working on longer term plans. The Rams also intend to move its offices to the former Anthem building from Agoura Hills.

“Our long-term vision is to build a permanent practice facility at the Woodland Hills site that Stan Kroenke purchased over the past year,” a team spokesperson recently told the L.A. Daily News.

The practice facility plans have both political and business support. Last month Blumenfield sent out an enthusiastic letter to constituents that promised to help “ensure their review gets rolling so the Rams can call Warner Center home as soon as possible.” The West Valley Warner Center Chamber of Commerce CEO has said the facility will offer an economic boost and “bring prestige to Warner Center.”

Warner Center, a special district that was created decades ago within the neighborhoods of Woodland Hills and Canoga Park, was originally envisioned as a higher-density “downtown” for the mostly suburban San Fernando Valley. In 2013, Blumenfield helped push through the Warner Center 2035 Plan, which created a development-friendly blueprint, including a streamlined environmental impact report process, for 14 million more square feet of commercial building and 20,000 residential units.

“Projects get approved in Warner Center faster than anywhere else in the city,” Blumenfield said. And because Kroenke’s assemblage is entirely within the district, which has very few development restrictions, the owner could have wide leeway to create a new commercial district, the councilman pointed out. While Kroenke hasn’t spoken about his plans, since he started buying up the parcels analysts have speculated that he intends to build a Rams-centered complex that resembles a smaller version of his Hollywood Park at SoFi, where plans ultimately include a near 300-acre “unparalleled sports and entertainment destination” featuring shops, office space, a hotel, apartments and outdoor space.

Promenade 2035 plan


At Warner Center, the Rams owner could decide to take advantage of entitlements that are already in place. In late 2020, before the French firm Unibail-Rodamco-Westfield ended up selling the Promenade site to Kroenke’s group, the L.A. City Council unanimously approved a plan, called Promenade 2035, to repurpose the derelict mall into a major mixed-use complex with around 1,400 residential units, 280,000 square feet of restaurant and retail space, over 700,000 square feet of office space, two hotels and a 10,000-seat entertainment center.

That project amounted to the largest ever proposed in Warner Center, and generated plenty of excitement and criticism, including from residents who saw a new invigoration for the West Valley and others who worried about traffic congestion and affordability.

Kroenke’s larger development plans, whenever they come to light, are likely to reignite the same emotions.

“We lived through the entitlement process and went through the slings and arrows,” Blumenfield said of the Promenade 2035 plan. “But since Kroenke has been so silent about what they’re going to do, and whether they’re going to [follow the Promenade plans] or do their own thing, it hasn’t become an issue.”
“I’m more just eager to see how this is going to play out,” Blumenfield added. “That Promenade site has been sitting vacant for a very long time.”
 

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As someone that has been involved in corporate development, it takes a long time to spec out the property, develop the plan, apply for all the permits and environmental reports and arrange for the financing. You don't spend that money before the property is finally purchased because too many things might go wrong or it might take longer than anticipated. Blumenfield is an ass who is showing his lack of experience and understanding. He's been a career politician with zero experience in commercial development.

Sure you have spec plans and projections but that's all they are. Once the escrow closes that is when the real work begins. Kroenke bought the Inglewood property ins January 2014 and the stadium wasn't finished until 2020. It took about 2 years before construction even began. In some ways, Warner Center will pose different hurdles because it's going to be mixed use so he will probably need more than one environmental impact report and permits. It wouldn't surprise me if it took 2 years or more before the ground is broken in Warner Center. As a mixed use development, he would line up his commercial tenants before the ground is broken as well. The adage build it and they will come doesn't apply to commercial development. Just ask the Chinese who are going bust with entire cities nothing but ghost towns. In other words, there are a lot of moving parts and there is no hurry, especially with how expensive financing is right now.
 

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As someone that has been involved in corporate development, it takes a long time to spec out the property, develop the plan, apply for all the permits and environmental reports and arrange for the financing. You don't spend that money before the property is finally purchased because too many things might go wrong or it might take longer than anticipated. Blumenfield is an ass who is showing his lack of experience and understanding. He's been a career politician with zero experience in commercial development.

Sure you have spec plans and projections but that's all they are. Once the escrow closes that is when the real work begins. Kroenke bought the Inglewood property ins January 2014 and the stadium wasn't finished until 2020. It took about 2 years before construction even began. In some ways, Warner Center will pose different hurdles because it's going to be mixed use so he will probably need more than one environmental impact report and permits. It wouldn't surprise me if it took 2 years or more before the ground is broken in Warner Center. As a mixed use development, he would line up his commercial tenants before the ground is broken as well. The adage build it and they will come doesn't apply to commercial development. Just ask the Chinese who are going bust with entire cities nothing but ghost towns. In other words, there are a lot of moving parts and there is no hurry, especially with how expensive financing is right now.
Great points Oldnotdead! They also have to give neighbors and the public time to fight it or give their concerns about the development at the city council meetings. There will be a few kooks that would rather have it remain a zombie mall.

“I assume he bought all that land not just to sit on it,” said L.A. Councilmember Bob Blumenfield.
Talk about poking the bear! Not very respectful. And, the guy has a name that sounds like it belongs on The Simpsons.
 

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It sounds like from the article that Kroenke bought up those spots not just for location but for the advantages in place for expedited development. I know when the new “Village” outdoor mall was being built, the talk was that it was going to connect to the older Promenade Mall (now the zombie) to the south and the newer Westfield Topanga mall to the north. That never happened and all three remain separated by Victory Blvd and Erwin street. This area has a lot of complicated history so who knows how long Kroenke’s plans will take.

 

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I imagine he will need to fund some street improvements in and around the area as part of the deal to get what he wants. City will require something I am sure.. But as far as the homeowners in the area should be concerned a practice facility and some minor gentrification is better than apartment buildings for home value.
 

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I imagine he will need to fund some street improvements in and around the area as part of the deal to get what he wants. City will require something I am sure.. But as far as the homeowners in the area should be concerned a practice facility and some minor gentrification is better than apartment buildings for home value.
Yup that's standard operating procedure. He did all kinds of that around SoFi too. Smart of him to do it to ease approval and smart of the city/people to get the upgrades for free.
 

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Just 15 minutes from where I grew up. Would have been sweet if now was then.

Interestingly, I took my son to our old house on Corbin and Parthenia just last year. The area looked WAY better than it did over 30 years ago when I showed my wife the area. Maybe with Stan's development, that area would be cool again like it was in the late 60s - early 70s.
 

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I imagine he will need to fund some street improvements in and around the area as part of the deal to get what he wants. City will require something I am sure.. But as far as the homeowners in the area should be concerned a practice facility and some minor gentrification is better than apartment buildings for home value.



It isn't very residential in that immediate area and what is closest is condos I believe. The southwest portion of the valley is pretty nice and expensive by most definitions. It would be cool if it helped out nearby Pierce College somehow. Traffic is a mess with all the business already there and the everyday commuting North and South across the valley floor so anything to relieve some of that would be great but likely an engineering nightmare. It will be interesting to see what becomes of it.
 

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Just 15 minutes from where I grew up. Would have been sweet if now was then.

Interestingly, I took my son to our old house on Corbin and Parthenia just last year. The area looked WAY better than it did over 30 years ago when I showed my wife the area. Maybe with Stan's development, that area would be cool again like it was in the late 60s - early 70s.
I grew up near Nordhoff St & Winnetka Ave and went to Chatsworth High School
 

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Just 15 minutes from where I grew up. Would have been sweet if now was then.

Interestingly, I took my son to our old house on Corbin and Parthenia just last year. The area looked WAY better than it did over 30 years ago when I showed my wife the area. Maybe with Stan's development, that area would be cool again like it was in the late 60s - early 70s.
nothing will ever be as cool as the late 60s early 70s

now get off my lawn and turn that music down
 

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On a side note, need Kroenke to purchase the Rockies. They are miserable.
 

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On a side note, need Kroenke to purchase the Rockies. They are miserable.
I'm a Dodgers fan, (sorry about my team's legendary status) have you been to Coors field?

I'm going next weekend and really looking forward to it!

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I'm a Dodgers fan, (sorry about my team's legendary status) have you been to Coors field?

I'm going next weekend and really looking forward to it!

Red Rocks Friday for John Fogerty and Coors Saturday vs the Yankees.
The field and ballpark are absolutely amazing. I believe you’ll love it. They nailed it when they built this field, all the seats angle towards home plate, so you don’t turn your head to watch. Please let us know how the game goes.

On a side note:

I’m not a baseball fan, but there are a ton of die hard baseball fans in this state longing for a competitive team. People blame the altitude. I always ask why is it that visitors demolish the Rockies game in and game out.

IMO it’s because their owner does care about the product on the field. Monfort doesn’t give a rats arse about the fans, just the bottom line.
 

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How secretive is he being really? They're building a practice facility..... their team headquarters.... and it will be a multi-use type facility...Hotel...shopping center....etc. On a smaller scale type than the Hollywood Park development. They've made that public already. What else honestly needs to be known?

Kroenke and the Rams have literally made public what they intend to do. They're doing something on a larger scale in Inglewood.

Not sure what's being kept a secret...