Perception by Other Fans That Goff will Bust

[Loyal]

I go to an NFC West site that is about as brutal as you can imagine for Rams fans. It is populated by mostly 49er and Hawk fans...There are about 7 Cardinal fans and 4-5 Rams fans (including me). I would point you towards it if you want, but it's a place where trolls do battle, as best that I can describe it.

Anyways....

I am excited about Jared Goff, and have been defending him over there. Niner fans were sure that they would draft him (several Cal fans). When we passed them like a bum on the street (Draft Board), the troll was "You mortgaged your future for a spread QB". or.."He needs to sit for 9 games at least, but you guys will get impatient and start him too soon and will ruin him". and, "Jared Goff wouldn't have even been a 1st round QB the year before, YOU OVERPAID" The worst slam they can think of, is calling him the next Sam Bradford.....

So what do you think? From my perspective:

1. Goff, unlike Bradford, never had his situation at Cal in a perfect way. Bradford was good with a great Oklahoma team around him, or with a Red Jersey on...He won the OROY with a very short passing game, before he got Bulgerized, but seemed to never see beyond his 2nd option. Goff would stand in the pocket at Cal and throw a strike, with a horrific Oline trying to protect him. He, like Bradford, has a wicked fast release.

2. Goff was the best QB available, but did we reach? I don't think so, but don't know for sure.

3. Can Goff learn the Pro Style system under center? Looks like he can, but the haters crow (and latch onto) reports that Goff is a work in progress (John Clayton and other LA reporters). This is where the haters say that Fisher will throw Goff into the fire and ruin him. Will Fisher feel the pressure in LA to have a winning record, so that he will not get fired?

4. Did we give up too much for Goff? Maybe....But we have been in a nasty cycle of being mediocre. Good enough to never get a great rookie QB in the draft, with no franchise QB's available in Free Agency (not too old, or injured). We had to roll the dice,imho.

I hope that Goff will develop quickly, so this is not another lost season. The tough skinny kid at Call that I saw on tape, didn't have it easy, and he made that horrific team (as a freshman), into a respectable team last year...almost by himself. So am I a slackjawed homer?

 

[Corbin]

Honestly to me that sounds like they are trying to justify their fear that is slowly growing but they don't want to admit it is there so they talk shit to try and dispel. Wait a year or two and they realization that Goff is going to beast for over a decade on them bitches. Lol tell to go suck Kaps gooch...

 

[Ballhawk]

So Goff is going to bust because he isn't' gong to be ready on day one and we might play him to early?
That is as almost as stupid as having Kaperdick as your QB!

 

[CGI_Ram]

My thoughts are;

1. You can never over pay for a starting QB
2. You can't teach Goff's pocket presence
3. You can't teach Goff's ability to process the field
4. You can't teach Goff's release
5. You can't teach Goff's ability to handle the big stage
6. You can't teach Goff's locker room presence

I have ZERO concerns about starting him too early.

We found our QB for the next 13-15yrs.

Like Corbin said, those guys are just scared.

 

[DaveFan'51]

So am I a slackjawed homer?

" Short answer, Yes!" But so am I!!
I Think Fisher will play it very carefully, Just like he did with Gurrrley last year! And everything will come out fine!!!

 

[LACHAMP46]

I would point you towards it if you want

Show Me.....

 

[Roman Snow]

Goff will do well. The whole "Mortgaged the future" thing is an inaccurate overreach. We lost a net 3 picks, and we already traded down to gain one back. Based on the last few years of loading our roster, that notion is laughable.

 

[Florida_Ram]

Believe me they would be all over hyping Goff up if their NFC West team was able to draft him. (even Seattle fans) had Russel Wilson not been on their team etc.

It is human nature when fans of a rival team from the same division or conference become outspoken with criticism and overrated expressions when the rival team drafts a possible future game changer..

They jab and exploit all the weaknesses of the players college game and convince themselves how the player will likely be nothing special and he wont hurt their team in the coming years.

I'm sure some of them believe what they say but most are likely getting worried and hoping mr. Goff is just a skinny armed spread offense QB that will never be more than an average player at best and hoping even more that he's a bust.

 

[JackDRams]

I read the first paragraph then came to the conclusion that you should change the title to "Perception by Butt Hurt Fans That Goff Will Bust". Fans in the division hardly have opinions that matter. You can't honestly expect an honest review when going head to head with that of fans of your rivals.

 

[Loyal]

Show Me.....

ok...lol....
http://spikedkoolaid.com/

Once there, click on an NFC West Story (there is an NFC East side, so ignore those articles). Scroll to the bottom and you will see a live chat going on. You will have to make up an account to respond, which is easy. Only the latest "articles" are populated with posters, like the old ESPN set-up used to be. In fact, these are refugees from ESPN that would not set up a facebook account a fe years back.
I warn you, you better be ready to rumble!:shooting:


View: http://imgur.com/6S9paxt

 

[Rams43]

Goff will do well. The whole "Mortgaged the future" thing is an inaccurate overreach. We lost a net 3 picks, and we already traded down to gain one back. Based on the last few years of loading our roster, that notion is laughable.

I have to mildly disagree with your rationalization there, Roman.

Any way we slice it, this trade cost the Rams two 1sts, two 2nds, and two 3rds. Snead salvaged a 4th and a 6th kicked back in the process, but the facts are the facts.

FWIW, I'm impressed with his use of those acquired picks. But still...

For the record, I fully support the trade. Yeah, it was costly, but a quality starting QB for the next 15 years is a very valuable thing. Priceless, really.

I think our competition in the division is worried now. And they should be. We went 4-2 against them last year with Foles and Keenum. And Keenum actually had a winning record vs the league.

Just wait until Goff gets a handle on things. Lol.

 

[CGI_Ram]

Any way we slice it, this trade cost the Rams two 1sts, two 2nds, and two 3rds. Snead salvaged a 4th and a 6th kicked back in the process, but the facts are the facts.

It sounds worse, listed that way, however.

I prefer to spell it out this way...

One 1st (we got Goff with the other)
One 2nd (the other was Philly, courtesy of our Bradford investment)
One 3rd (the other courtesy of Jenkins, likely)

Sounds better and the Rams knew they were trading away chips cashed in from other ways.

 

[Rams43]

It sounds worse, listed that way, however.

I prefer to spell it out this way...

One 1st (we got Goff with the other)
One 2nd (the other was Philly, courtesy of our Bradford investment)
One 3rd (the other courtesy of Jenkins, likely)

Sounds better and the Rams knew they were trading away chips cashed in from other ways.

Yeah, it sounds better the way you phrase it, CGI.

That's why they call it "spin". Lol.

 

[Loyal]

I am getting killed over there...lol...those homer bastids!

 

[Tron]

You forgot that most fans of other teams are much much much much much much much much dumber than the casual ram fan. So idiotic comments seem like smart and insightful ones to them. They are a rung down on the ladder of evolution. Don't pay mind to our neanderthall brethren.

Just look at @Rynie as an example

 

[OldSchool]

Yeah, it sounds better the way you phrase it, CGI.

That's why they call it "spin". Lol.

LOL most of us call it reality, you're ignoring what we received in the trade he's listing everything that changed hands in the trade. We did not give up 6 picks to get the 1st overall pick. We sent 6 picks to get 3 picks that included the first overall pick a net loss of 3 picks not 6.

 

[tomas]

My thoughts are;

1. You can never over pay for a starting QB
2. You can't teach Goff's pocket presence
3. You can't teach Goff's ability to process the field
4. You can't teach Goff's release
5. You can't teach Goff's ability to handle the big stage
6. You can't teach Goff's locker room presence

I have ZERO concerns about starting him too early.

We found our QB for the next 13-15yrs.

Like Corbin said, those guys are just scared.

Like Corbin said, those guys are just scared "jealous"

 

[diggity]

Keenum has what, 15 games under his belt in the NFL?
Goff is a Rookie, but to think that Keenum, except for the playbook knowledge...has actual better "talent", or is "smarter" than Goff is a HUGE stretch.
Nothing in College points to Goff flopping. He started on a HORRIBLE Cal team, and every year...the team record and his personal stats improved.Accuracy being a KEY!
Keenum in his 15 NFL games, has really not impressed anyone. So...if Goff can learn a majority of the playbook and be consistent in his play, it's all good. And, it'll get better from there. A solid D and an improved O-line with a good running game is going to help him right off the bat.
GO RAMS!!!!

 

[LesBaker]

I have to mildly disagree with your rationalization there, Roman.

Any way we slice it, this trade cost the Rams two 1sts, two 2nds, and two 3rds. Snead salvaged a 4th and a 6th kicked back in the process, but the facts are the facts.

FWIW, I'm impressed with his use of those acquired picks. But still...

For the record, I fully support the trade. Yeah, it was costly, but a quality starting QB for the next 15 years is a very valuable thing. Priceless, really.

I think our competition in the division is worried now. And they should be. We went 4-2 against them last year with Foles and Keenum. And Keenum actually had a winning record vs the league.

Just wait until Goff gets a handle on things. Lol.

Look at it this way.

The Rams could have kept all of those picks and drafted well.........but without an excellent QB that talent is wasted right?

We can have talent all over the roster but without some talent under center no team goes far.

I agree that the division and the fans of SEA, SF and AZ are worried because they are in a real dogfight now since the Rams are ascending.

It's very possible that 3 teams will win 10+ games in the NFC West.

And the 49ers may only win 5.

 

[tomas]

Why Jared Goff is special,when you throw footballs like this...

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