OPI spreading like disease?

[JonRam99]

Mkay, is this not OPI? Here's some screenshots from Calvin Ridley's TD catch & run off of a crossing pattern:

Calvin (on the left) about to cross; his cohort #12 starting his "bull rush" into #31

Calvin making the catch, #12 pushing #31 off

Here, he finishes his OPI by slamming into #41; technically not OPI, but still.... Calvin races in for the TD.

Look, I know we also do a lot of chipping on crossing patterns & such, but this is ridiculous. Is this catching on around the league? and I know that contact within 5 yards of the LOS is permissible but this is outright blocking well in advance of the catch.

Passing yards league wide are going up in 2018, and this may be a big reason why, that plus so much holding now being allowed.

 

[I like Rams]

Im in the conspiracy that the league is allowing things like this to happen to make fantasy football players happy. More points, more stats, more fans. This is why I hate fantasy football. Not only that but i dont care what anyone else does besides the Rams.

 

[Loyal]

Warning! This is an old folks thread! You people with all your fantasy leagues!

 

[FaulkSF]

I see usually it's the "low IQ" WRs and TEs getting called with the PI. Granted Higbee does a great job of selling it and will even square up and look at Goff as if to be open to catch a pass.

I'm sure other coaches teach it the same way, but I see the guilty parties mentioned above plowing DBs and LBs in their path. That's gonna get you a flag almost every time.

 

[Pape]

Mkay, is this not OPI? Here's some screenshots from Calvin Ridley's TD catch & run off of a crossing pattern:
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Calvin (on the left) about to cross; his cohort #12 starting his "bull rush" into #31

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Calvin making the catch, #12 pushing #31 off

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Here, he finishes his OPI by slamming into #41; technically not OPI, but still.... Calvin races in for the TD.

Look, I know we also do a lot of chipping on crossing patterns & such, but this is ridiculous. Is this catching on around the league? and I know that contact within 5 yards of the LOS is permissible but this is outright blocking well in advance of the catch.

Passing yards league wide are going up in 2018, and this may be a big reason why, that plus so much holding now being allowed.

i look at those pics and the only thing i wonder is wth is johnathan allen doing dropping back like that? eek, guy looks slower than molasses in february and looks like he broke his ankles trying to change his angle of attack lol...

 

[fearsomefour]

Im in the conspiracy that the league is allowing things like this to happen to make fantasy football players happy. More points, more stats, more fans. This is why I hate fantasy football. Not only that but i dont care what anyone else does besides the Rams.

This is a dumbing down of the game for sure.
More points equals more exciting.
Anytime a sports (all three of the "big 3" have through cycles of this) talk about expanding the fan base to "casual" fans or female fans the game get worse.
Casual fans = ignorant fans.
How about we just start every game at 17-17 so the final scores are higher? How Fing exciting.
Give the moronic talking heads something to talk about other than "Rogers vs Brady"....like them being on the field together means anything.
Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb.
Grumpy out!!

 

[Adi]

This is an attempt to copy mcvay is doing successfully. Our guys however make it seem smooth and dont end up grabbing the defender. Higbee is great at it

The bigger thing I have noticed is the recievers delaying thier routes . Instead of everyone going on the snap, our guys will wait at times and catch defenders flat footed . Very simple technique that is getting guys open.

 

[Angry Ram]

Mkay, is this not OPI? Here's some screenshots from Calvin Ridley's TD catch & run off of a crossing pattern:
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Calvin (on the left) about to cross; his cohort #12 starting his "bull rush" into #31

View attachment 26965
Calvin making the catch, #12 pushing #31 off

View attachment 26966
Here, he finishes his OPI by slamming into #41; technically not OPI, but still.... Calvin races in for the TD.

Look, I know we also do a lot of chipping on crossing patterns & such, but this is ridiculous. Is this catching on around the league? and I know that contact within 5 yards of the LOS is permissible but this is outright blocking well in advance of the catch.

Passing yards league wide are going up in 2018, and this may be a big reason why, that plus so much holding now being allowed.

Because the Falcons player (an eligible receiver) initiated and maintained the contact before the ball was thrown. He let off just a fraction of a second after the ball left Matt Ryan's hand.

The five yard contact applies to the defender, and has nothing to do with offensive players.

I'll link you the rule when I get home. Also the video makes this clearer rather than screen shots.

 

[Angry Ram]

Warning! This is an old folks thread! You people with all your fantasy leagues!

You wouldn't be saying this if you were 9-0 and about to win some $$$$$$$$$$.

True story.

 

[Angry Ram]

Here's the rule: https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/2018-nfl-rulebook/#article-1.-legal-and-illegal-acts
ARTICLE 4. OTHER PROHIBITED ACTS BY THE OFFENSE
Blocking more than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage by an offensive player prior to a pass being thrown is offensive pass interference. See 8-3-1 for exception for an ineligible offensive player.

Note: It is also pass interference by the offense to block a defender beyond the line while the pass is in the air, if the block occurs in the vicinity of the player to whom the pass is thrown. See 8-3-1-Note for exception for ineligible players.

Penalty: For pass interference by the defense: First down for the offensive team at the spot of the foul. If the interference is also a personal foul (12-2), the 15-yard penalty for such a foul is also enforced, either from the spot of the foul (for interference), or from the end of the run if the foul for pass interference is declined. If the interference is behind the defensive goal line, it is first down for the offensive team on the defense’s one-yard line, or, if the previous spot was inside the two-yard line, halfway between the previous spot and the goal line.

Penalty: For pass interference by the offense: Loss of 10 yards from the previous spot.

 

[kurtfaulk]

Because the Falcons player (an eligible receiver) initiated and maintained the contact before the ball was thrown. He let off just a fraction of a second after the ball left Matt Ryan's hand.

The five yard contact applies to the defender, and has nothing to do with offensive players.

I'll link you the rule when I get home. Also the video makes this clearer rather than screen shots.

are you saying it wasn't opi? a wr can't block down the field if it isn't a running play.

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[Angry Ram]

are you saying it wasn't opi? a wr can't block down the field if it isn't a running play.

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I posted the rule already.

 

[kurtfaulk]

I posted the rule already.

Yeah i know and it said it was opi. But you earlier post suggests you think it wasn't opi.

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[Angry Ram]

Yeah i know and it said it was opi. But you earlier post suggests you think it wasn't opi.

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It's not.

 

[kurtfaulk]

It's not.

that play was the definition of opi.

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[JonRam99]

"Blocking more than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage by an offensive player prior to a pass being thrown is offensive pass interference."
You can see the shadow of the ball on the ground; #12 bull rushes #31 at least a full second before Ryan passes it. And well past 1 yard of the LOS. You can look at it from even the original angle, #12 blocks several yards downfield past the LOS.
So usually I'd be like, OK, I get it, the Falcons got away with a little OPI, big deal, it's not even my team. But here's the problem: this highlight came directly from the NFL.com website, in support of Pepsi Rookie of the Week votes. This tells me that there's a systemic problem with loosey-goosey enforcement of the rules, and that the NFL doesn't really care if the rules are enforced or not. It's been apparent from the start of the season that they wanna see more TD's, and are not calling OPI, Offensive Holding, etc., unless doing so would make the game closer & more exciting.
If they wanted offenses to score more points, fine, just change the rules -- allow ALL OPI to be legal. As long as every team is given a fair chance, and every playing field is level.
But big money sports leagues (soccer, football, baseball) don't want fair competition, or else you wind up with small market teams in the superbowl, such as the Rams & Titans (which IIRC was a major downer for the NFL & their media partners). I could already predict who'd be in the World Series this year -- LA & Boston, of course. MLB didn't wanna see Houston & Milwaukee, are you kidding?? revenues would plummet -- compared to an LA / Boston WS. No offense to Dodger fans, but I would hope even you guys would want to be sure your team earned it's place. I'm not saying there was any evidence of foul officiating or MLB looking the other way from cheating, but who really knows?? all I see is the results, and trends.

 

[Angry Ram]

that play was the definition of opi.

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Nope.

"Blocking more than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage by an offensive player prior to a pass being thrown is offensive pass interference."

Matt Ryan didn't pass the ball when he initiated the block. And again he let off a second after the ball gets passed. Not enough to call it.

It's not a big deal. It's not some "disease", either.

 

[kurtfaulk]

Nope.



Matt Ryan didn't pass the ball when he initiated the block. And again he let off a second after the ball gets passed. Not enough to call it.

It's not a big deal. It's not some "disease", either.

am i in some kind of bizzaro world? you quote the rule then have the exact opposite interpretation of the rule.

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[Angry Ram]

am i in some kind of bizzaro world? you quote the rule then have the exact opposite interpretation of the rule.

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Dude. It's not hard. Rule states it's not interference if the block is before the pass is thrown. Which is clearly the case here.

 

[kurtfaulk]

Dude. It's not hard. Rule states it's not interference if the block is before the pass is thrown. Which is clearly the case here.

You seem to have missed the part about blocking more than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage is opi. Maybe it is hard.

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