NFL offseason rules are brutal for QB development

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NFL offseason rules are brutal for QB development
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...l-offseason-rules-jared-goff-los-angeles-rams


In the second of a three-part series on why the NFL offseason is broken, let's examine how the current rules limit the pro learning curve for quarterbacks as they make the transition to the pro game.

With only six total hours allowed at the facility on OTA days -- which includes lifting, meetings and practice -- time constraints are a legitimate concern. It's not enough, and the coaches I've talked to agree. They want more time with every rookie. And quarterbacks are no exception.


NFL offseason is a disaster for rookies, players on roster bubble
For the most part, the NFL has changed for the better. But the offseason rules in the CBA dramatically affect how young players -- no matter where they were drafted -- can develop.

Think of a pilot who wants more time in the simulator. Maybe another hour. Or two. Put in some extra work, right? Sure. But that doesn't happen in the NFL. When the clock runs out, that's it. Pack it in and come back tomorrow -- regardless of what was left unfinished.

For a young quarterback, that's trouble. Technique, mechanics, release point. The progressions. The reads. The pre-snap checklist. The transition to the five and seven-step passing game.

Hey, those are just the basics, a cover charge that gets you into the door.

The slow learning curve
Think back to the first four weeks of the 2015 NFL season, Tampa Bay Buccaneers rookie quarterback Jameis Winston threw seven interceptions and logged a Total QBR of just 35.6. Veteran cornerbacks baited the No. 1 overall pick into poor decisions, and defensive coordinators introduced Winston to the complex world of NFL coverages and pressure.

Winston should've been expected to make mistakes and struggle -- initially. The defensive coaches I talked to during the first month of the 2015 regular season saw it, too. They wanted more disguise and late safety rotation versus Winston. Multiple looks. Pressure. Both zone and man schemes.

"Force him into mistakes," an NFL defensive coach told me at the time. "If you can hold up versus the run, I would play 2-man coverage-wise. And I would have my linebackers add to the back right now to make it look like pressure."

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Bucs quarterback Jameis Winston struggled early as a rookie, but he improved down the stretch. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
To a veteran quarterback, that's just another day at the stadium. Safety movement, man-under and linebackers adding to the coverage are expected on Sundays. But to a rookie who is just trying to manage the speed of the pro game, the transition can be extreme, regardless of the skill set they bring into the NFL.

As I wrote about in my previous story on rookie development and offseason restrictions, these rules under the current collective bargaining agreement limit immediate growth in first-year players. But the quarterback position might take the biggest hit. Yes, offseason workouts are never going to resemble a training camp session, but the core fundamentals, mechanics and technique we always focus on at the quarterback position are key to success. And, in my opinion, those are developed through reps, corrections and competition through one-on-one time with your coach.

But even the little things, such as talking with your coach during the early months of the offseason, are now forbidden. You want to call your position coach in the winter or early spring and talk some ball? Nope. Can't do it. That's against the rules. What about questions on offseason film study? The same. Take it somewhere else.

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That's a killer for quarterbacks -- and it doesn't just impact young guys. Think of a veteran quarterback going through a coaching change or a third-year guy who signs with a new club in free agency. There is an entire playbook to learn. New terminology, too. Be nice to get a jump on that stuff, right? Or to get a feel about what the new coach expects when you arrive for offseason workouts.

Unfortunately, the new laws of the CBA says this is a problem...one that I'm still trying to figure out.

And given the limited amount of time the young quarterbacks actually spend on the field -- and in the film room -- with their coaches during the spring months due to the restrictions of the CBA, how much development can we truly expect? And are we looking for immediate results that aren't realistic?

"The key is getting them enough snaps in OTAs, minicamp and training camp," an NFL executive said. "Also, can't be scared to play a young player and work through their mistakes. By Game 8 he is no longer a rookie."

By the second half of the season, Winston's numbers indeed started to improve. And although his QBR only climbed to 58.6 by the end of the year, Winston posted a QBR of 60.0 or higher in seven games while finishing with 22 touchdown passes and 15 interceptions.

Plus, you could see it on his tape. Winston began to manipulate the safety in the middle of the field, and he made some throws into windows the size of a coffee can. He showed flashes of the player we all expected to see coming out of Florida State.

That's development. That's growth on the field. But with that comes the hiccups early in the season, the losses and the realization that the majority of young quarterbacks -- even some top picks -- aren't ready for pro ball right from the jump.

Offseason development
What are quarterbacks seeing in practice?

When I was with the Redskins, we drafted Auburn quarterback Jason Campbell in the first round, and he saw a lot from our defense during OTAs and minicamp -- that included two-a-day sessions -- as a rookie. That was Gregg Williams' system. Attack. And then attack some more. Bring heat and challenge receivers. Wild personnel packages in the secondary, and guys moving all over the place before the snap.

Stuff got a little physical and the tempo increased. But in terms of developing a quarterback throughout an offseason program before limitations on contact and time on the field, Campbell got some really good work during OTAs. He saw wide receivers aligned versus press-coverage, blitz packages and 11-on-11 team drills where the speed got ramped up.

Even in shorts and helmets that was competitive football. And nothing was left open after practice. Get some more work on the field. Watch some more tape. And then do it again the next day. Clockwork.

Tennessee Titans quarterback Marcus Mariota could have his learning curve accelerated because of Dick LeBeau's defense.

Think of all the zone pressure, the disguise, the movement or the multiple fronts -- in both base and sub-packages -- that are a standard part of LeBeau's units. Even with Mariota coming from a college spread system, the opportunity to work versus LeBeau's complex system in Tennessee was seen as a positive in the eyes of opposing coaches.

Keeping with that view, could the same be said for Jared Goff, who was picked No. 1 overall by the Los Angeles Rams? The Cal product and spread-system/air-raid QB got to see Williams' defense up close throughout OTAs and minicamps in L.A. Hey, that's a quick introduction to some crazy looks when the quarterback comes to the line of scrimmage.

But even with the practice reps for Goff, there is still going to be a transition period. And it could be bumpy -- really bumpy if he starts the season atop the depth chart. No different than we saw with Mariota. Or with Winston. Up and down. Learn on the fly.

As one AFC coach told me about Goff possibly opening up as the starter for the Rams this year: "I wish we had them on the schedule."

Is that a knock on Goff's talent, his skill set? Nah, it's not. I've talked to coaches and scouts who see Goff developing into a really good pro. Instead, it's a knock on the process, the limited prep time.


On the field development
Play the kid? Or sit him?

With more pressure to push top picks on to the field, we all know the answer. Rookie quarterbacks, especially Day 1 picks, are going to play. The owners want that. The fan base, too. And the coaches, general managers and scouts agree. This is the best way to develop. A baptism by fire.

With a young safety or linebacker or running back, you can cover up growing pains. Yes, mistakes are going to happen. And those rookies are going to get beat -- a lot. But when it happens under center, well, it can cost you games. Picks. Poor decisions. Check-down after check-down. Survival mode.

Even with the head-scratching throws we see from rookie quarterbacks early in the season, however, game reps are still the ultimate teaching tool. I believe that. Coaches, too. You want to adjust to the speed of the pro game? Then you have to see it. And the game tape? Man, you gotta have it. That's how rookies learn: self-scout and make corrections. Get knocked down a bit. Get introduced to the league. And identify what you did wrong.

"When we take a player as an organization, the only way to get him ready is to rep and play him," the NFL executive said.

The flip side of that argument? Sit the rookie. Make him wait. Hold a clipboard. Run some scout team. Use a journeyman as a bridge to the future. Build up that offensive line, too.

There is some merit to that plan. I'm not a big believer in anyone learning from the sideline, but I also understand the process. Coaches are limited in what they can accomplish on the field when practiced is squeezed into the clutter of a six-hour time block that includes players lifting, running to meetings, getting taped before practice and then heading out onto the field.

"You can't teach," the AFC coach told me on the time limitations on the practice field. Individual periods are shortened, and after practice it's time to turn the lights off for the day.

Carson Wentz on the field this year, too. But when we really look at the landscape of the quarterback position in the NFL, the top quarterbacks, the most consistent and game-proven quarterbacks, are well into their 30s.

Russell Wilson was excellent this season. In this third year. Andrew Luck took a step back. In this third year. A rookie? You are asking a lot -- especially when they roll into a training camp environment without the extra reps of two-a-days still trying to find their footing.

Coaches need to adapt
There has to be a solution here, right? With young quarterbacks being tossed onto the field -- and many coming from college spread systems -- I believe it's on the league and the coaches to adapt a little bit more given the offseason questions.

That means terminology, scheme and comfort level.

Pro-style QBs? We all want the 6-foot-5, 240 pounders with the footwork to operate from a five- and seven-step drop. But the game, especially at the college and high school levels, is changing. Kids are throwing earlier, playing on 7-on-7 club teams and operating out of the Gun. Take the snap and sling the rock. And the bubble screen is one of the top route concepts.

The NFL is trying, and we are seeing more and more examples of spread concepts making it to the show. Just look at all the run-pass options (RPOs) we see on Sundays now. It's a new world in the pros.

But the league still needs more if they are going to usher these young quarterbacks onto the field and toss them to the wolves. And that's coaching 101. Adjust to your personnel. Build a scheme that provides some sense of comfort and caters to the talent of the signal-callers.

A veteran NFL coach asked me once: "Name a spread quarterback that has produced consistently in the NFL?"

I didn't have an answer, but I also think that's a problem with the league. You want to develop the talent under the current limitations the coaches have to teach in the offseason? Then start maximizing the quarterbacks who are coming into the league. Use similar terminology, incorporate similar route concepts and mesh those pro and college systems together. Give these cats a chance.

Ready or not, young quarterbacks are going to play. And the CBA isn't going to change anytime soon.
 

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Completely agree. I can see some of the full practices being limited to prevent off season injuries. But all the other crap just limits player development unnecessarily.
 

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QB's coming out have it bad? Then it goes double for offensive linemen coming out, just ask GRob.

Players can thank their most recent CBA for all of that.
 

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Definitely an inconvenience, but not a kiss of death.

James had those early struggles and overcame them to set rookie records.

Mariota did well despite injury.

Bottles struggled too rookie year and had an extremely productive year two.

Carr, Wilson, Bridgewater, and Luck have all operated under this CBA their entire careers as well and have produced early.

Bit of an uphill climb for Goff, Wentz, and the rest of these rookie QBs, but they can overcome it.
 

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Another issue we can thank the union for..........this one isn't helping their members LOL.

I know people like to blame the NFL and Goodell for all that they dislike but..........this was one of the things the players union had as non negotiable along with limiting hitting in camp (sensible IMO) and a set of windows/numbers for all of the activities and practices and so on.

The players and the player reps and the union wanted this and they got it.

Be careful what you wish for right!
 

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Completely agree. I can see some of the full practices being limited to prevent off season injuries. But all the other crap just limits player development unnecessarily.

And extends players careers. You cannot have it both ways.
 

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No I should be putting in some serious work instead of playing on the computer.lol.
ssshh Dont tell my boss.

I'm sure your production at work has been stellar lately tavian.

Please for the sake of the board do not get caught doing your double shift of Rams topics with the quality effort your boss has become used to. :redcard:

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And extends players careers. You cannot have it both ways.
Not watching film and talking to coaches extends careers? What? Are they pulling eye muscles and getting premature tinnitus?

Aside from that, I'm pretty sure Manning, Favre, Marino, Elway, etc... didn't have these limitations. How much longer you suppose their careers would have gone? I'm guessing not at all since you couldn't hit them in practice anyway. And how many players do you really think would have shorter careers by running some routes with their QB after practice or having a DB shadow them?

Again, I can see eliminating some of the full contact stuff or practices with full pads at full speed but mandating they don't even talk to their coaches or watch film at team facilities? Pretty ridiculous.
 

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And extends players careers. You cannot have it both ways.

Conjecture on your part - not near enough time/data to evaluate yet.
Plus what 503 said - talking to coaches? Really?
 

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And extends players careers. You cannot have it both ways.
Extends careers by making people worse at their job and having teams desire to replace them sooner? I'm honestly shocked that the players union hasn't fired DeMaurice Smith yet. The man negotiated this last CBA and completely screwed over the players. The only thing the players got in their favor was this easier workload in the off season. Which so far has led to more injuries and worse play. The way he gave Goodell control over player discipline alone should warrant the players canning him.
 

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The current CBA favors veterans.. Rookies, 2nd and 3rd yr players are severely handicapped coming into TC through lack of contact in the film room and with the playbook. Not being able to ask questions about either is really not in their best interest in making the 53 man roster. Teams with more vets really have a leg up, especially on teams like the Rams , who are collectivly the youngest team in the league. OTA's and TC are just not long enough to cover everything. Young teams like the Rams are still in TC mode 4 or 5 games into the season.
 

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Not watching film and talking to coaches extends careers? What? Are they pulling eye muscles and getting premature tinnitus?

Aside from that, I'm pretty sure Manning, Favre, Marino, Elway, etc... didn't have these limitations. How much longer you suppose their careers would have gone? I'm guessing not at all since you couldn't hit them in practice anyway. And how many players do you really think would have shorter careers by running some routes with their QB after practice or having a DB shadow them?

Again, I can see eliminating some of the full contact stuff or practices with full pads at full speed but mandating they don't even talk to their coaches or watch film at team facilities? Pretty ridiculous.

Your assuming that they do not leave OTAs with a iPad loaded with the playbook, film from camp and a list of what they need to learn/improve on which in most cases is more effective info than they had previously. What the CBA did is to drastically eliminate contact which is the major reason players are hurt. With the new technology improvements I very seriously doubt that they cannot train and teach. If they are good coaches, they know how to and will adapt. Go back and look at the QBs who balled out their rookie year since the new CB.... Luck, Wilson Griffin, Newton, Dalton, Winston, Mariota all did well because of commitment, pure skill and COACHING. The ones that did not was not because of the CBA, just a Red Herring.
 

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I'll give you Wilson, and maybe Luck - still think he is way overrated. .
The rest, not so much. Griffin w/o Jackson kinda sucked.

Let's just get rid of coaches - just give 'em an iPad. Problem solved. :palm:
 

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And extends players careers. You cannot have it both ways.
I don't think there is any proof that these measures have extended anyone career. Do you have any numbers that would back that up?

As for the ipad from what I have been told that is against the contract too. 6 hours and that's it, it isn't just 6 hours with the coaches.

It's a bad deal for the players, the coaches whose careers depend on the players production, the teams and ultimately the fans. There is no one who benefits from such limited teaching time.
 
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I don't think there is any proof that these measures have extended anyone career. Do you have any numbers that would back that up?

As for the ipad from what I have been told that is against the contract too. 6 hours and that's it, it isn't just 6 hours with the coaches.

It's a bad deal for the players, the coaches whose careers depend on the players production, the teams and ultimately the fans. There is no one who benefits from such limited teaching time.

To your points:

Have you got proof that it has not reduced injuries. I know they (injuries) are down are down. Shows me your stats that say they are not.

An iPad has a 6 hour limit? Show me the clause in the CBA, The point I was trying to make is you can front load the info for players AND not have to be WITH the coaches to learn/improve.

Talk to the players that went to camp in the "old days" and they will tell you they were broke and used.
 

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An iPad has a 6 hour limit? Show me the clause in the CBA, The point I was trying to make is you can front load the info for players AND not have to be WITH the coaches to learn/improve.

Talk to the players that went to camp in the "old days" and they will tell you they were broke and used.

Do people learn from reading and watching video's or from doing something with guidance from somebody who knows how it's supposed to be done?

And are those the same "old days" players that blame the state of the game and the continual injuries during non contact drills on the fact that players in their words "don't practice anymore"? I posted on this site a while back an interview of Jack Youngblood by Rich Eisen where he says that exact thing and goes further to say the major problem is players aren't taught the proper way to tackle anymore because of the changes in the off season.
 

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And extends players careers. You cannot have it both ways.

Classroom work and walk throughs don't shorten a players career and they should allow more of that. There are blackouts where coaches can't even talk to a player, that's just dumb.

I'm totally OK with reducing the full contact stuff that makes plenty of sense so on that we agree 100%..........but why reduce opportunities to get more mental work and gain better understanding of a scheme........I don't get it.
 

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The prob for Goff is he's going to give the Rams a better chance to win than Keenum pretty much right out the gate. So Fish can say what he wants about waiting until he's ready. But your perception as a coach is going to be changed by what you see overall with the "vet" QB as well.

Now, if Keenum raises the bar in camp and kills it in preseason I am sure he will get the nod. But not for long, because he's just not very good. Backup QBs don't tend to hold onto starting jobs for long, particularly when a guy of Goff's talent is behind them on the depth chart.

IMO by the end of camp Goff is going to be at least on par with Keenum. He won't know the offense as well as Case but his ability will compensate in that equation. It will show in preseason too, and there will be no way they can go with Case. Only way Goff doesn't start is if the OL suffers injuries before the opener or otherwise struggles. Goff being protected will be the most important element IMO.