NFL: Microchips and centralized replay review

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ips-in-all-footballs-but-not-for-officiating/

NFL plans to put chips in all footballs, but not for officiating
Posted by Michael David Smith on February 28, 2017

The NFL plans to put microchips in every football during the 2017 season, but the chips will not be used to help the officials.

Instead, Daniel Kaplan of Sports Business Journal reports, the chips will be used as part of the NFL’s “Next Gen Stats,” which track player performance.

The league already puts chips on every player’s shoulder pads for the Next Gen Stats, and having chips in footballs as well will allow teams to track everything from how fast a quarterback throws a football to how well a defensive back moves toward the ball while it’s in the air. Next Gen Stats are closely guarded secrets, with only a tiny portion of them ever becoming public.

The NFL has previously put chips in kicking balls to determine how significant the change would be if the goal posts were narrowed. There’s long been a movement to put chips in footballs to help determine when a ball crosses the goal line, but logistical challenges have prevented that from happening.

Falcons President Rich McKay, the chairman of the competition committee, says the full scope of the way the data from chips in footballs will be used won’t be known until after the season. But it will be a significant amount of data that the league has never had before.

 

[dieterbrock]

Incredible.
We have to technology to see a pimple on a rats azz from a satellite but the nfl still relies on old guys walking off 10 yards with a wonky chain from an eye ball spot
But on the bright side we'll have a whole nuther level of "stats" we can come up with ...

 

[Ram65]

They should give to the networks. At least the speed a QB throws the ball and stuff like that. Maybe, it becomes too much and takes away from just watching and enjoying the game.

 

[lordbannon]

But will they check the air pressure?

 

[Q729]

But will they check the air pressure?

Man, that's the first thing that came to mind when I saw the thread title. I was surprised to find it had nothing to do with that.

 

[UnknownREknown]

New England will find a way to hack into these chips...allowing them to both spy and deflate the ball with the push of a button.

 

[DaveFan'51]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ips-in-all-footballs-but-not-for-officiating/

NFL plans to put chips in all footballs, but not for officiating
Posted by Michael David Smith on February 28, 2017

The NFL plans to put microchips in every football during the 2017 season, but the chips will not be used to help the officials.

Instead, Daniel Kaplan of Sports Business Journal reports, the chips will be used as part of the NFL’s “Next Gen Stats,” which track player performance.

The league already puts chips on every player’s shoulder pads for the Next Gen Stats, and having chips in footballs as well will allow teams to track everything from how fast a quarterback throws a football to how well a defensive back moves toward the ball while it’s in the air. Next Gen Stats are closely guarded secrets, with only a tiny portion of them ever becoming public.

The NFL has previously put chips in kicking balls to determine how significant the change would be if the goal posts were narrowed. There’s long been a movement to put chips in footballs to help determine when a ball crosses the goal line, but logistical challenges have prevented that from happening.

Falcons President Rich McKay, the chairman of the competition committee, says the full scope of the way the data from chips in footballs will be used won’t be known until after the season. But it will be a significant amount of data that the league has never had before.

:blah::blah::sleepz:

 

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/01/nfl-considering-fully-centralized-replay-review/

NFL considering fully centralized replay review
Posted by Mike Florio on March 1, 2017

NFL referees may soon be full-time employees, but they could have less to do on game days.

Via Judy Battista of NFL Media, the NFL is considering full centralization of the replay review function. This would cut the game-site referees out of the process entirely.

The NFL hopes, per Battista, to improve consistency of officiating and to streamline the process from a time standpoint. The involvement of the league office in replay review via pipeline to each game site already ensures consistency, as long as the referee accepts the advice he receives from NFL executive V.P. of officiating Dean Blandino or his lieutenant, Alberto Riveron.

Taking the decision out of the hands of the referee will make the process cleaner by dispensing with the protracted dog-and-pony show that has the referee puttering from the middle of the field to the sideline, talking to this person, talking to that person, putting on the headset for a Dukakis-in-a-tank photo op, going under the hood, executing the review, emerging from the curtain, taking off the headset, talking to this person, talking to that person, puttering back to the field, and finally announcing the ruling.

When the NFL decided in the midst of the ratings crisis to get creative about ways to trim fat from the game broadcast, the most obvious layer of subcutaneous goo came from the replay review process. It takes too long in its current form, and dispensing with the slow, plodding, multi-step, on-field process will trim some fat from games.

 

[PowayRamFan]

I've always wondered why they haven't used the chips somehow to help spot the football. They should have that down to an exact science at this point, with all their resources.

 

[CGI_Ram]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/01/nfl-considering-fully-centralized-replay-review/

NFL considering fully centralized replay review
Posted by Mike Florio on March 1, 2017

NFL referees may soon be full-time employees, but they could have less to do on game days.

Via Judy Battista of NFL Media, the NFL is considering full centralization of the replay review function. This would cut the game-site referees out of the process entirely.

The NFL hopes, per Battista, to improve consistency of officiating and to streamline the process from a time standpoint. The involvement of the league office in replay review via pipeline to each game site already ensures consistency, as long as the referee accepts the advice he receives from NFL executive V.P. of officiating Dean Blandino or his lieutenant, Alberto Riveron.

Taking the decision out of the hands of the referee will make the process cleaner by dispensing with the protracted dog-and-pony show that has the referee puttering from the middle of the field to the sideline, talking to this person, talking to that person, putting on the headset for a Dukakis-in-a-tank photo op, going under the hood, executing the review, emerging from the curtain, taking off the headset, talking to this person, talking to that person, puttering back to the field, and finally announcing the ruling.

When the NFL decided in the midst of the ratings crisis to get creative about ways to trim fat from the game broadcast, the most obvious layer of subcutaneous goo came from the replay review process. It takes too long in its current form, and dispensing with the slow, plodding, multi-step, on-field process will trim some fat from games.

Centralized replay sounds good to me.

 

[RhodyRams]

football is a game of inches
if a football is 12" long and the chip is in the center of the ball, does the chip register if the ball crosses the goal line?


I can see measuring speed of ball, distances etc that dont have to be exact, but as for precise placement I think we are better off with instant replay and half blind refs

 

[So Ram]

football is a game of inches
if a football is 12" long and the chip is in the center of the ball, does the chip register if the ball crosses the goal line?


I can see measuring speed of ball, distances etc that dont have to be exact, but as for precise placement I think we are better off with instant replay and half blind refs

Then maybe make the center of the ball the maker ?

 

[dieterbrock]

football is a game of inches
if a football is 12" long and the chip is in the center of the ball, does the chip register if the ball crosses the goal line?


I can see measuring speed of ball, distances etc that dont have to be exact, but as for precise placement I think we are better off with instant replay and half blind refs

They couldn't put a chip or a chip reader on the end of the football? I guarantee that with technology the way it is, they could design something which would be entirely more accurate than mere eye balling

 

[RhodyRams]

Then maybe make the center of the ball the maker ?

and the 1st time TGII rushes up the middle and just the nose breaks the plane of the goal line and GZ has to kick a 20 yd FG, Rams fans will be screaming

 

[RhodyRams]

They couldn't put a chip or a chip reader on the end of the football? I guarantee that with technology the way it is, they could design something which would be entirely more accurate than mere eye balling

they would have to put one at each nose of the football, wouldn't they?

 

[So Ram]

and the 1st time TGII rushes up the middle and just the nose breaks the plane of the goal line and GZ has to kick a 20 yd FG, Rams fans will be screaming

Why ?? It's the same for everyone. If you have the ball tucked or out what is the difference then. The center of the ball is the center of the ball.Just because I hold it in shouldn't matter if I hold it out ??
If your Wendell Tyler your hold the ball like a loaf of bread. How many times did ram fans scream at him to tuck the freaking ball. The maker is the marker !!
This way your not guessing . It is a true spot.

 

[dieterbrock]

they would have to put one at each nose of the football, wouldn't they?

Of course. But on the other hand, you don't need a chip to track the ball. Look at tennis, they've had the Cyclops/Hawk-eye for years to dispute whether balls are in or out. Not sure what the technology is or how it could be applied, just that they've had it.
Balls and strike trackers are available in MLB on tv broadcast, though they aren't used for calls, they could be.
Bottom line, if desired, technology could easily replace the "eye balling" that goes on now