NFL chat with Jim Thomas: 7/13/16 - He's back and extra snarky

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These are selected questions and answers only. Lots of Q&A on other teams. To read the whole chat click the link below.
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NFL chat with Jim Thomas
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Poll: Which NFL team will you follow in 2016?
Rams - 23%
Chiefs - 10%
Bears - 4%
Colts - 4%
Titans - 4%
Other - 15%
None - 41%


Hey JT would you say our projected OL is Grob Saffold Barnes Brown Havenstein? And who goes in first if Softfold goes down? Reynolds or Wichman?

I think that's how you have to read it at this point. I think Reynolds is the first o-lineman off the bench and Wichman the second.
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What percentage do you see Nick Foles on the roster week 1

Zero.
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Rams drafted Sean Mannion in the 3rd Round last year- High IQ guy. I see more potential in him than Goff.

Mannion has a strong arm as well. He had the strongest arm among the QBs on last years team. He is very smart, but so is Goff who apparently scored very highly on the Wonderlic, The one thing Mannion doesn't have that Goff has is mobility, an important factor with a still developing offensive line.
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Would you rather the Rams trade the farm for Jameis in 2015 instead of Goff in 2016?

At this point, I'd say yes.

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I just really want the Rams to be bad. I want the media exposure to backfire and Goff to get bulgerized. Give LA some 2-14 football and let's see what fans stick it out

I'm sure your not the Lone Ranger here. And you just may get your wish.

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Losing Daren Bates hurts. He was a productive back-up with solid special teams play.

It won't help. Although he occasionally committed the dumb penalty, he brought energy and an edge to special teams. Plus, he was a good dancer before kickoffs.
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Does Higbee have any shot of beating out Kendricks?

No. But minus Jared Cook, Higbee should get some playing time.
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Another 7-9 season in store for the Rams this year. Good enough defense to keep us in games, lack of continuity on offense to sustain winning form.

The Rammies do seem to be stuck in that rut.

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Percentage that Fisher keeps his job winning 6-8 games next year?

If it's less than 8, I would say less than 50 percent. Then again, I thought that would be the case last season.

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Is there any truth to the rumor that in LA the daily surfer reports are more popular than updates on the Rams?

Appreciate the humor, but it looks like the LA area papers are giving the Rams a decent amount of coverage at this point.
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Hey Jim if you had to pick a starter at FS right now who would it be out of Davis, Alexander or Bryant?

I thought Alexander improved a lot over the course of last season, and in the little bit he got to play last season in place of McDonald, he was surprisingly effective. Has good speed, and the potential to be a big hitter. I'm not exactly sure if he has the range to be a free safety, but I think it's worth a try.
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What's the odds Trey Watts finally makes the roster?

Well, first he's gotta get off the suspended list.
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Is the LA nfl franchise going to learn the lesson that the Lakers are learning right now? It seems like free agents aren't going to come just for the address. If a team like the Lakers can't get stars in the door to even talk to them, what chance do the kroenkes have?

I think the dynamics are a little different in the NFL. Money always talks, but that being equal, most players do want to go to a place where they have a chance to win, get in the playoffs, have a chance at the Super Bowl, etc.
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I was born in 1994 and despite destroying my heart these past ten years, I am and will always be a RAMS fan. Regardless of where they play and how they do, this team has and will always provide me an outlet from the daily rigors of my life.

You are part of a generation that grew up with the Rams in St. Louis, so I get where you're coming from. Really all three of my sons _ages 28, 25, and 20 _ are kind of in the same boat. Were you old enough to remember the Super Bowl victory when it happened?
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Jim, how difficult has it been for you to interact with the Rams organization since they have moved to LA? Are the Rams blocking STL media from covering the team?

Not really too bad other than my inability to interview Stan Kroenke. Although I haven't tried recently, Kevin Demoff almost always gets back to me quickly. I was able to get special teams coordinator John Fassel on the phone for a draft story I did on the influx of Australian-born kickers and punters in the NFL. But the relationship certainly isn't the same now that the team is physically removed from St. Louis. Nor do I expect it to be.
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You know all those game-influencing calls that went against the Rams the last 5-10 years will start being called in their favor the next few seasons.

We'll see. For the most part, I'm not really into Oliver Stone theories.
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What are you hearing about Tru being signed to a long term deal by this Friday's tag deadline? Is TJ McDonald going to attend camp?

I've heard no chance in hell on Trumaine Johnson being signed by Friday. Not sure on T.J. I will be in Rams camp for the first weekend of full-squad practices _ July 30 and 31st.
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If given the choice, which NFL franchise would you like to cover the most going forward?

I'm kind of intrigued by the possibility of moving around a little bit, and getting more of a feel for the rest of the league. Obviously, we will have budget constraints, but looking forward to seeing some Chiefs, Colts, Bears, and Titans as well as their opponents. And as I think I mentioned earlier, we will be covering the Rams home opener. In addition, I think plans call for me to do a Rams rewind - for lack of a better title - where I look at game tape from that week's Rams games and write an on-line only blog of what I see.
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Who will be the special teams return man this year?

It should be Tavon Austin on punt returns. And as has been the case for the past several years, I think the Rams will look at several candidates for kickoff returns, but Benny Cunningham is always Mr. Reliable.
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I grew up an LA Rams fan, followed them to St Louis, and will follow them again in LA. I appreciate I am not alone, and do understand some fans resentment, but St Louis lost the Cards, wooed the Rams away from LA, and now feel spurned by another move. Not being a St Louisian (?), what's wrong with your market to lose two NFL teams? Many teams have bad owners. And I ask that with all due respect. Too small and baseball-centric?

Sorry, but with all due respect this is not a valid argument for someone in LA,. Los Angeles, with all its people and all its resources, has lost 3 NFL teams to other cities.
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Charley Armey was never given the credit he deserved for building GSOT. The Rams couldn't keep from stumbling over their own feet until he was brought in to right the ship

I'm a big Armey fan. He wasn't perfect, but he certainly had a very good batting average as Rams GM.
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Anyone going to the Legends of the Dome game on July 23rd? In what should come as no surprise, coach Mike Martz already is putting together his "game plan" for the Legends of the Dome game.

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It's jut bizarro world for me. I remember losing the Rams from LA back in the day, but there was no platform through which I could articluate my thoughts. The way St Louis Rams fans are reacting isn't abby-normal, as I considered whether I would remain a fan in 1995. I loved the NFL and could follow no other team besides the Rams. Glad to see some of the ST Louis posters creeping back into the site, which I like.

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These are selected questions and answers only. Lots of Q&A on other teams. To read the whole chat click the link below.
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http://sports.live.stltoday.com/Event/NFL_chat_with_Jim_Thomas_18?Page=0

NFL chat with Jim Thomas
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Poll: Which NFL team will you follow in 2016?
Rams - 23%
Chiefs - 10%
Bears - 4%
Colts - 4%
Titans - 4%
Other - 15%
None - 41%


Hey JT would you say our projected OL is Grob Saffold Barnes Brown Havenstein? And who goes in first if Softfold goes down? Reynolds or Wichman?

I think that's how you have to read it at this point. I think Reynolds is the first o-lineman off the bench and Wichman the second.
-----------
What percentage do you see Nick Foles on the roster week 1

Zero.
-------
Rams drafted Sean Mannion in the 3rd Round last year- High IQ guy. I see more potential in him than Goff.

Mannion has a strong arm as well. He had the strongest arm among the QBs on last years team. He is very smart, but so is Goff who apparently scored very highly on the Wonderlic, The one thing Mannion doesn't have that Goff has is mobility, an important factor with a still developing offensive line.
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Would you rather the Rams trade the farm for Jameis in 2015 instead of Goff in 2016?

At this point, I'd say yes.

200.gif

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I just really want the Rams to be bad. I want the media exposure to backfire and Goff to get bulgerized. Give LA some 2-14 football and let's see what fans stick it out

I'm sure your not the Lone Ranger here. And you just may get your wish.

200.gif

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Losing Daren Bates hurts. He was a productive back-up with solid special teams play.

It won't help. Although he occasionally committed the dumb penalty, he brought energy and an edge to special teams. Plus, he was a good dancer before kickoffs.
-----------
Does Higbee have any shot of beating out Kendricks?

No. But minus Jared Cook, Higbee should get some playing time.
----------
Another 7-9 season in store for the Rams this year. Good enough defense to keep us in games, lack of continuity on offense to sustain winning form.

The Rammies do seem to be stuck in that rut.

200.gif

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Percentage that Fisher keeps his job winning 6-8 games next year?

If it's less than 8, I would say less than 50 percent. Then again, I thought that would be the case last season.

200.gif

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Is there any truth to the rumor that in LA the daily surfer reports are more popular than updates on the Rams?

Appreciate the humor, but it looks like the LA area papers are giving the Rams a decent amount of coverage at this point.
-----------
Hey Jim if you had to pick a starter at FS right now who would it be out of Davis, Alexander or Bryant?

I thought Alexander improved a lot over the course of last season, and in the little bit he got to play last season in place of McDonald, he was surprisingly effective. Has good speed, and the potential to be a big hitter. I'm not exactly sure if he has the range to be a free safety, but I think it's worth a try.
----------
What's the odds Trey Watts finally makes the roster?

Well, first he's gotta get off the suspended list.
-----------
Is the LA nfl franchise going to learn the lesson that the Lakers are learning right now? It seems like free agents aren't going to come just for the address. If a team like the Lakers can't get stars in the door to even talk to them, what chance do the kroenkes have?

I think the dynamics are a little different in the NFL. Money always talks, but that being equal, most players do want to go to a place where they have a chance to win, get in the playoffs, have a chance at the Super Bowl, etc.
------------
I was born in 1994 and despite destroying my heart these past ten years, I am and will always be a RAMS fan. Regardless of where they play and how they do, this team has and will always provide me an outlet from the daily rigors of my life.

You are part of a generation that grew up with the Rams in St. Louis, so I get where you're coming from. Really all three of my sons _ages 28, 25, and 20 _ are kind of in the same boat. Were you old enough to remember the Super Bowl victory when it happened?
----------
Jim, how difficult has it been for you to interact with the Rams organization since they have moved to LA? Are the Rams blocking STL media from covering the team?

Not really too bad other than my inability to interview Stan Kroenke. Although I haven't tried recently, Kevin Demoff almost always gets back to me quickly. I was able to get special teams coordinator John Fassel on the phone for a draft story I did on the influx of Australian-born kickers and punters in the NFL. But the relationship certainly isn't the same now that the team is physically removed from St. Louis. Nor do I expect it to be.
----------
You know all those game-influencing calls that went against the Rams the last 5-10 years will start being called in their favor the next few seasons.

We'll see. For the most part, I'm not really into Oliver Stone theories.
-----------
What are you hearing about Tru being signed to a long term deal by this Friday's tag deadline? Is TJ McDonald going to attend camp?

I've heard no chance in hell on Trumaine Johnson being signed by Friday. Not sure on T.J. I will be in Rams camp for the first weekend of full-squad practices _ July 30 and 31st.
----------
If given the choice, which NFL franchise would you like to cover the most going forward?

I'm kind of intrigued by the possibility of moving around a little bit, and getting more of a feel for the rest of the league. Obviously, we will have budget constraints, but looking forward to seeing some Chiefs, Colts, Bears, and Titans as well as their opponents. And as I think I mentioned earlier, we will be covering the Rams home opener. In addition, I think plans call for me to do a Rams rewind - for lack of a better title - where I look at game tape from that week's Rams games and write an on-line only blog of what I see.
-----------
Who will be the special teams return man this year?

It should be Tavon Austin on punt returns. And as has been the case for the past several years, I think the Rams will look at several candidates for kickoff returns, but Benny Cunningham is always Mr. Reliable.
----------
I grew up an LA Rams fan, followed them to St Louis, and will follow them again in LA. I appreciate I am not alone, and do understand some fans resentment, but St Louis lost the Cards, wooed the Rams away from LA, and now feel spurned by another move. Not being a St Louisian (?), what's wrong with your market to lose two NFL teams? Many teams have bad owners. And I ask that with all due respect. Too small and baseball-centric?

Sorry, but with all due respect this is not a valid argument for someone in LA,. Los Angeles, with all its people and all its resources, has lost 3 NFL teams to other cities.
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Charley Armey was never given the credit he deserved for building GSOT. The Rams couldn't keep from stumbling over their own feet until he was brought in to right the ship

I'm a big Armey fan. He wasn't perfect, but he certainly had a very good batting average as Rams GM.
---------
Anyone going to the Legends of the Dome game on July 23rd? In what should come as no surprise, coach Mike Martz already is putting together his "game plan" for the Legends of the Dome game.

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S.O.S.A.JT!!! The best part of this is the Gifs Prime Time added!!(y)
 

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It's jut bizarro world for me. I remember losing the Rams from LA back in the day, but there was no platform through which I could articluate my thoughts. The way St Louis Rams fans are reacting isn't abby-normal, as I considered whether I would remain a fan in 1995. I loved the NFL and could follow no other team besides the Rams. Glad to see some of the ST Louis posters creeping back into the site, which I like.

Welcome Home.

I used to know a guy that was a SoCal native and a Rams fan. When they moved to STL he dumped them totally and became a Broncos fan.

I hope we see STL fans come back, so many of them are great. I've met several at get togethers through The Original Herd and really enjoyed the trips to STL.

@LACHAMP46 said it best to the fans of STL right after the move "take your time, root from afar we will be here waiting for you".

It's the correct sentiment.
 

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I'm a little surprised that I'm still interested in the Chats. I too hope more St. Louians can remain Rams fans. The Rams are about to turn the corner to being perennial winners! They should enjoy it after the years of turmoil.
 

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Would you rather the Rams trade the farm for Jameis in 2015 instead of Goff in 2016?

At this point, I'd say yes.

Strange. I don't recall the Bucaneers seriously fielding offers for the first overall pick. I didn't know they already had their franchise QB in place either.

I would love to hear Jim's BS explanation on this one. He would rather have Winston with all the baggage he brought from his past over Goff who lead a losing team to a bowl game and improved record each year despite having no Oline, vs Winston who played for powerhouse FSU and has been accused of several crimes, and a pitchers throwing motion?
 

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Would you rather the Rams trade the farm for Jameis in 2015 instead of Goff in 2016?

At this point, I'd say yes.

:flanders: Yes Jim. We just need someone like Winston. A real leader with the gumption ... you know, to stand on a cafeteria table in front of our 18 year old daughters and yell out, "f--- her right in the p---y!...f--- her right in the p---y!" His talent is so superior to Goff, and THAT kind of character makes it so easy for fans to cheer for him... Dip wad. :mad:

I just really want the Rams to be bad. I want the media exposure to backfire and Goff to get bulgerized. Give LA some 2-14 football and let's see what fans stick it out

I'm sure your not the Lone Ranger here. And you just may get your wish.

:mrburnsevil: "Bitter, party of two? Your table is ready."


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Great gifs prime time. Thanks for posting these. (y)
 

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RamsSince1969

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It's jut bizarro world for me. I remember losing the Rams from LA back in the day, but there was no platform through which I could articluate my thoughts. The way St Louis Rams fans are reacting isn't abby-normal, as I considered whether I would remain a fan in 1995. I loved the NFL and could follow no other team besides the Rams. Glad to see some of the ST Louis posters creeping back into the site, which I like.

Welcome Home.
I drove home from the last game Dec 24, 1994 in a daze, like I had just attended a funeral and lost the love of my life. I seriously don't remember the drive home. I know the pain of them moving but always loved and supported the Rams.
 

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I drove home from the last game Dec 24, 1994 in a daze, like I had just attended a funeral and lost the love of my life. I seriously don't remember the drive home. I know the pain of them moving but always loved and supported the Rams.

I saw CLE fans go through it when Modell left town..........not having a team was very bad for that town and many of my friends felt the same pain and betrayal people in STL did, but in the end they got to keep the colors and the history.
 

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Strange. I don't recall the Bucaneers seriously fielding offers for the first overall pick. I didn't know they already had their franchise QB in place either.

I would love to hear Jim's BS explanation on this one. He would rather have Winston with all the baggage he brought from his past over Goff who lead a losing team to a bowl game and improved record each year despite having no Oline, vs Winston who played for powerhouse FSU and has been accused of several crimes, and a pitchers throwing motion?

He's click trolling, or click mining.

If he really believes that I'd be surprised.
 

Mikey Ram

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Wow, that really was world class snarkinous, even for derriere- hurt JT...Guess I no longer need pay attention to ANY of his stuff now...I'm a bit disappointed in him but I guess I understand...It all went downhill fast when he got his shorts in a wad over the perceived lying episode with Fisher...Good riddance, at least to me...Time to move to the LA Times or some other source...For those who are too young, Jim Murray was an absolute jewel back in the day...To me he was the Vin Scully of football/ sports writers...I really miss his stuff !!!
 
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Wow, that really was world class snarkinous, even for derriere- hurt JT...Guess I no longer need pay attention to ANY of his stuff now...I'm a bit disappointed in him but I guess I understand...It all went downhill fast when he got his shorts in a wad over the perceived lying episode with Fisher...Good riddanceJim , at least to me...Time to move to the LA Times or some other source...For those who are too young, Murray was an absolute jewel back in the day...To me he was the Vin Scilly of football/ sports writers...I really miss his stuff !!!
Me too....damn, we're old.
 

Mikey Ram

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Me too....damn, we're old.

You're closing on old, but have some more road to travel...I turn 65 in about 2 weeks...Upside of that for me is that I'm about to bring closure to my reasonable bucket list...My daughter's birthday present is that her and I are going to Eugene to go skydiving..Ican hardly wait...I've wanted to do it like forever..
My wife is not real thrilled, but to her credit she knows that it's important to me...
 

den-the-coach

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When I see Jim Thomas in Los Angeles I am going to put my arm around and give him a little Telly Savalas'
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RamFan503

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You're closing on old, but have some more road to travel...I turn 65 in about 2 weeks...Upside of that for me is that I'm about to bring closure to my reasonable bucket list...My daughter's birthday present is that her and I are going to Eugene to go skydiving..Ican hardly wait...I've wanted to do it like forever..
My wife is not real thrilled, but to her credit she knows that it's important to me...
Did that a couple years ago with my sons. I may not be as old and brittle as you though. :p Seriously though - we had a blast and I'm sure you will as well.
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The odd thing was that jumping out of a perfectly good airplane was no big deal. Watching my two boys exit the plane was a little scary. One moment they are leaning forward, before you can blink, they are gone. It was a little unsettling.