NFL Bylaws do NOT prevent Bounties???

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I've even grown tired of this story... but this latest round caught my eye so had to post...

"The fact that the NFL has a different agenda today than it did in 1996 cannot change the unequivocal language of the NFL Constitution & Bylaws, which has never prohibited this type of behavior," the union wrote in its legal briefs. "The Commissioner's attempt to nonetheless suspend and scapegoat Mr. Fujita for conduct - incentivizing undisputed, legitimate plays - never before punished or prohibited by the NFL not only violates the 'essence of the (collective bargaining) agreement' but further demonstrates the Commissioner's evident partiality."

NFLPA cites 1996 bounty program allowed by NFL
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nf ... e/1643073/

The filing cited reports about Reggie White's "smash-for-cash" program that paid $500 for big hits. In the reports, an NFL spokesman says incentive programs are permitted with players' own money. NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said Thursday night that the league would defer comment.

11:39PM EDT October 18. 2012 -

NEW ORLEANS (AP) — The NFL Players Association filed papers in federal court pointing out that the NFL permitted a 1996 incentive program for big hits funded by then-Green Bay defensive lineman Reggie White.

In papers filed Thursday in U.S. District Court, the union questioned why NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell should now be able to suspend former Saints linebacker Scott Fujita for offering then-New Orleans teammates rewards for big plays during the 2009 season.

The filing cited media reports about White's "smash-for-cash" program that paid $500 for big plays, including big hits.

The reports, now nearly 16 years old, include players from other teams discussing similar pools climbing into the thousands of dollars. In one report by ESPN, Troy Vincent, then a defensive back with Philadelphia, discusses a similar player-funded incentive program run by Eagles players.

Vincent now works for the NFL as a vice president overseeing player engagement.

In the reports, an NFL spokesman is quoted as saying the incentive programs are permitted as long as players use their own money and the amounts players pledge are not exorbitant.


NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said Thursday night that the league would defer comment to its own forthcoming arguments in court.

The NFLPA seized upon the NFL's 1996 stance particularly as it related to Fujita, who Goodell suspended this for one game this season even though he said he could not verify that Fujita participated in the bounty program the league says the Saints ran for three seasons from 2009-11. Goodell said Fujita, now with Cleveland, was still guilty of violating NFL rules by offering his own incentives for big plays and also, as a team leader, by failing to try to stop to the cash-for-hits program overseen by then-Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams.

The union said that while the NFL's player safety goals may have evolved since 1996, it is unfair to punish players for behavior it previously permitted without formally spelling out that such behavior is no longer allowed.

"The fact that the NFL has a different agenda today than it did in 1996 cannot change the unequivocal language of the NFL Constitution & Bylaws, which has never prohibited this type of behavior," the union wrote in its legal briefs. "The Commissioner's attempt to nonetheless suspend and scapegoat Mr. Fujita for conduct - incentivizing undisputed, legitimate plays - never before punished or prohibited by the NFL not only violates the 'essence of the (collective bargaining) agreement' but further demonstrates the Commissioner's evident partiality."

Fujita is one of four players suspended by Goodell in the NFL's bounty probe of the Saints. Saints linebacker Jon Vilma wass suspended for the season, Saints defensive end Will Smith for four games and free agent defensive lineman Anthony Hargrove for seven games. None of the suspensions are currently in effect because they all have been appealed within the framework of the NFL's labor agreement, and Goodell has set hearings for those appeals this Tuesday in New York.

However, all four players also have asked U.S. District Judge Ginger Berrigan to throw out Goodell's disciplinary rulings on the grounds that he has demonstrated a bias against the players in his handling the bounty investigation, thereby violating the players' industrial due process rights. The players also have questioned the credibility of the league's evidence in the case or the witnesses upon which the league's investigation relied.

The NFL has said the union agreed that the commissioner would be able to serve as the lone arbitrator for matters deemed detrimental to football and that the evidence in the case is strong enough to support Goodell's rulings.

Still, the players have argued that Goodell should be barred from handling discipline in the bounty probe and that a neutral arbitrator should be appointed, an argument repeated by the union in its latest filing.

"It is only a neutral of unquestioned integrity who can restore public confidence in this process and mitigate the damage which the NFL's handling of 'bounty-gate has inflicted upon the game," the NFLPA said.

Copyright 2012 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
 

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Wait, so Tagliabue is supposed to be a neutral arbitrator?

NFLPA given deadline to file motion to recuse Paul Tagliabue
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100000 ... -tagliabue

By Albert Breer
Reporter, NFL.com and NFL Network
Published: Oct. 23, 2012 at 03:01 p.m.
Updated: Oct. 23, 2012 at 03:20 p.m.

Judge Helen Berrigan, presiding over the players' defamation lawsuits in the New Orleans Saints bounty matter, issued orders for the NFL Players Association and NFL to file on the potential recusal of ex-NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue during a conference Tuesday, according to court documents.

Berrigan order that the NFLPA file its motion to have Tagliabue recused by Wednesday at 5 p.m. CT, that the NFL file its reply by Friday at 5 p.m. CT and the union file its subsequent reply by Monday at 5 p.m. CT.

The appeals hearings for Jonathan Vilma, Scott Fujita, Will Smith and Anthony Hargrove are set for Oct. 30.

The NFLPA also sent a letter to Tagliabue outlining three questions it had for the former commissioner on potential conflicts of interest. Tagliabue has yet to reply to that, according to a union source.

The letter asks three central questions of Tagliabue:

The first is if he can clear himself on the District of Columbia Bar's ethical regulations. "Rule 2.4," which states that an individual cannot be an arbitrator if they are associated with one of the parties, is referenced.

Second, the union wants to know the nature of Tagliabue's involvement in the bounty situation, since Tagliabue is a partner at Covington & Burling, the firm that is representing the NFL in the players' lawsuits.

Third, the union asks Tagliabue to clarify his relationship with the NFL. On his bio at the law firm, Tagliabue is referred to as a business consultant for the league.


In the union's view, the letter could lead to four conclusions:

1) Tagliabue could agree that there are conflicts and recuse himself.
2) Tagliabue could say that he believes that the he can be a neutral arbitrator, and the union could disagree and ask him to recuse himself.
3) Tagliabue could convince all parties he can be neutral, which is unlikely given the union's position.
4) Tagliabue and the league could simply do nothing and move forward with the appeal.
 

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