McVay talks changes?

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oldnotdead

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How about firing Coen and Morris, to begin with? Time to try Thomas Brown as OC. If people think Coen hasn't changed the offense go back and compare this offense since 2018 and you will see Coen is playing a very bland standard offense. No imagination, no innovation. It's something every team has seen so it's way too easy for them to defend.

Brown has been on this staff long enough to understand its strengths and weaknesses. They have seen the innovative style that used to be McVay's offense. This stale puke of an offense is pure BS and IMO is pure Coen. The offense has never been this bad even when they had Goff and a bad OL in 2019. If Sean is going to make changes it must start with his staff or the players will see it's all on them with no staff accountability.

Another very experienced option for OC is Greg Olson. He might not be the best option, but he's seen it all. He understands what it takes to jump start a stale offense. My point being is that the Rams do have internal options.

Morris showed he can play the defense aggressively so why the hell doesn't he do it? He did it in the playoffs but now he's back to his good enough style of prevent as his base. Sorry, it ain't good enough. People cherry-pick the stats to try to prove he's good enough. But this last game showed just how bad he is. I think it's time to bring in some fresh thinking.

I think it's time to quit holding back a rising star on the defensive staff. Eric Henderson is the reason the only successful part of the defense is the DL. He is a big reason AD is who he is. Henderson has earned the respect of the players. AD's ability to move anywhere on the DL didn't just happen. Henderson was a big part of Staley's success. He knows how to use the defensive personnel.

Time to bench Kendrick who keeps showing he lacks the speed and quickness to play outside in the NFL. Time to give Rochell his starting position opposite Ramsey. I think Lewis has shown all he can be which is not enough as a starter. I'd rather see Jonah Williams or Hoecht at DE. Both have the strength and speed lacking in Lewis. It's clear Lewis' injury has affected his explosion just like it did with Akers. Lewis has not shown the same kind of explosive style of play he did in college.

Regarding the OL I think it's time to mine the FA list. There are guys like Fred Johnson and Deonte Brown who are better than Evans and who have experience. IMO either one can come in and be a serviceable replacement. This OL just needs to be serviceable, i.e. it needs to quit allowing quick pressure on passing downs and understand blocking fundamentals in the run game. Fix the OL and Stafford will quit being gun shy.

Time to activate Kyren Williams. They let Michel walk because of Williams. Well, it's time to get the kid on the field behind Henderson. Time to either play either Jared Pinkley or Roger Carter as a lead blocker. Time to play 12 personnel to extend the OL and take some pressure off of the OL.

Time to shuffle the OL and start:

LT Nsekhe
LG Jackson
C Allen
RG Fred Johnson or Deonte Brown/ or some other OG signed off of a PS or UFA list
RT Havenstein

McVay needs to go back and use the pass to set up the run. Sean needs to scheme his WRs back into their layered system with a quick dump off option via TE, or FB.

McVay needs to do more than just lip service to making changes. IMO that means changes start at the staff level. With internal promotions, it means less disruption. Return to what worked with Staley and his combo zone/man scheme. Use a lead blocker as an extension of the blocking scheme in the run game.
 

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There is no way he fires either. McVay is the Play Caller and architect of this offense. Morris has a highly, (statistically) rated Defense.
 

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Believe it or not but McVay and Morris talk about the type of defense they are going to run, so if McVay had a problem with it the problem would’ve already been addressed.
Coen basically suggest things to McVay, so McVay is still running the offense, including the play calling.
 

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This offense reminds me of the seasons when Jeff Fisher was the head coach. Ouch!

It shouldn't be a shock to any Rams fan that's been paying attention that the O-line would be this bad. With the loss of Whitworth they weren't that good to begin with. Throw in multiple injuries and poor depth and here we are. Can't run the ball. Stafford has little time to go through his reads. Plus he's most likely dealing with nagging injuries like he does every season.

The defense has been holding things together for the most part. But the continual ten yard cushion given to opposing receivers is maddening. The only thing that Jimmy G. does well is hit on short and intermediate passes. So what do the Rams do? Fall right into the same trap every time. WTH? Losing to the 49ers and Tom Brady is the worst, at least for this Rams fan.

If Sean McVay and Aaron Donald had retired after last season like they had hinted at doing, would this team have looked any different than they do now? Maybe it's time to give Dick Vermeil a call if he's willing to give up his wine business for the rest of the season. :helmet:
 

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The defense isn’t perfect but it isn’t the problem.
Yes the defense is the thing keeping us in games. But at times, they end up losing games that are winnable due to their stubborn, idiotic usage. Those last two drives made no sense scheme wise. It’s like using a fancy/expensive sushi knife as a hammer or screwdriver.
 

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I'm going to say that mcvay wouldnt be able to look at Morris in the face and say....come on man etc we scored you 13pts that wasnt enough?"

Do I agred with that sceme being over used yes maybe we could play with some of the calls etc. But its the defense that ranks in the top 10 the offense is close to last.

I too feel the pain and I too in a perfect world want that played better maybe even called better but im a realist and at some point bend dont break is going to break. Especially when they had done enough to win and out on the field over and over. You dont need a game winning or tying drive you just needed 1 damn play and you couldnt even do that.
 

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Yes the defense is the thing keeping us in games. But at times, they end up losing games that are winnable due to their stubborn, idiotic usage. Those last two drives made no sense scheme wise. It’s like using a fancy/expensive sushi knife as a hammer or screwdriver.

While I agree that the offense is the main culprit I agree with you about Morris’s scheme in certain situations and against certain teams. Take yesterday for instance-Any time we bought the heat Brady shit his pants and either threw the ball into the ground or tried to dump it off. Just watch Brady all year and during yesterday’s game and no way was he going to stand in the pocket and risk taking a hit throwing the ball more than 10 yards down field.

At worst we get a sack or Brady dumps the ball off quickly and we make a quick tackle in bounds and game is basically over. I know it’s the offense’s fault but the way we played D on that last drive was sickening.
 

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The defensive philosophy is part of the problem but not THE problem. At this point we should all know to be successful in the NFL you need to play complementary football and right now the Rams are playing neither.
The philosophy is simple. Score points, play bend don't break, and let the pass rush get home. Welp that hasn't transpired in any form this season and unfortunately the Rams have failed to adjust.
It's frustrating for sure because I believe the Rams have the players on Defense to play a different style but they almost never switch it up and it's mind boggling.
 

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in the second half with bum as dc we were making adjustments. you could count on it.
 

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LOL the head coach who calls the plays on offense is going to fire his DC that kept the team in the game while his offense shits the bed drive after drive after drive for a whole Sunday? Any excuse to make another shit on Morris and the D thread I guess.

Eight games this team has scored 10 points in the fourth quarter. And we want to fire our DC? The comedy just keeps coming.
 

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LOL the head coach who calls the plays on offense is going to fire his DC that kept the team in the game while his offense shits the bed drive after drive after drive for a whole Sunday? Any excuse to make another shit on Morris and the D thread I guess.

Eight games this team has scored 10 points in the fourth quarter. And we want to fire our DC? The comedy just keeps coming.
Should McVay fire himself?
 

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LOL the head coach who calls the plays on offense is going to fire his DC that kept the team in the game while his offense shits the bed drive after drive after drive for a whole Sunday? Any excuse to make another shit on Morris and the D thread I guess.

Eight games this team has scored 10 points in the fourth quarter. And we want to fire our DC? The comedy just keeps coming.

haha, I hear you. It makes me crazy too. But not everyone understands football. Lets be honest, most people don't, and that's fine but lets step away from the ledge my friend :p
 

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There is no question the offense is 90 percent of the problem. Maybe more. But the way the defense played that final drive is mind boggling. And I don't think I'd put too much blame on Morris. The idea is to prevent the deep pass and give them the underneath stuff to make them use the clock. How many less plays would they have had if they forced them to throw over the middle?

If Morris tells them to play that way I would think its common sense not to give them the 10-15 yard sideline pass. He should not have to tell them. How did the conversation go after that? "Gee coach, I gave them the underneath stuff like you wanted. You never told me not the sidelines".
 

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Thomas Brown being elevated to OC?
The moved him off RB coach, because the RB's werent performing, and now he's TE coach with one of the worst TE groups in the NFL
I know we have a Jeff Fisher offense going on but I dont think we need to make a Rob Boras coaching move as well....
 

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I don't think they should go and make big changes. It's the OL and it's not getting fixed this season.
 

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haha, I hear you. It makes me crazy too. But not everyone understands football. Lets be honest, most people don't, and that's fine but lets step away from the ledge my friend :p
I'm not on or near any ledges :)