Locked Up Abroad... The Story

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Selassie I

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This story is true and fucked up. I'm going to go ahead and share it for it's pure entertainment value and for the possibility that it might help someone avoid having something similar happen. Plus, some have been asking so...

Let me first make something very clear... This was all my fault. Despite whatever set-up or other circumstances that may have been a big part of this,,, I should have never allowed myself to be so trusting and vulnerable.

Back on August 2nd my wife, 3 sons, my wife's friend and I all traveled in our boat across the Atlantic about 140 miles to what we have come to call our 2nd home. A tiny island in the Bahamas (Grand Cay). The crossing wasn't the most pleasant as hurricane Bertha was coming up from the southern Caribbean. We made it with no real problems,,, it was totally safe, just a little bumpy seas and I had to navigate around some thunderstorms. We arrived about an hour later than normal because of the conditions... but all was well and we proceeded to have about 7 days of extremely good diving, fishing, food, etc.

But at about 6:30pm on Friday August 8th, everything changed. My long time fishing guide (I've used him for the last 10 yrs) was driving us back to the marina after another monster day of diving / fishing. I have him captain my boat when I'm over there so that I can really relax (drink). Strangely,,, he purposely pulled our boat out in front of 3 other boats who were already waiting to enter the marina area. Once he wheeled into the marina, I was very surprised to see a Fisheries officer standing at the end of our slip as if she was expecting us. My surprise was due to the fact that I have never seen a Fisheries officer at the docks asking to see your catch in the 20yrs that I have been going there. I wasn't concerned at that moment though.

Another reason I have a Bahamian "guide" us over there is because having a B.O.B. (Bahamian On Board) allows you to harvest more than the limit of whatever you are catching... Anything over the limit simply has to be claimed by the B.O.B. if you are ever checked. Well,,, when we gladly showed our catch to the officer, our supposed friend and guide of over 10yrs claims he doesn't know anything about it. So I'm now in violation of a Fisheries law.

But it gets worse. The Fisheries officer then asks me for my immigration / customs paperwork. This is a problem because I didn't check in at customs when we first arrived. We didn't because our 3 boys had forgotten their birth certificates, and we didn't realize it until we were there. We didn't want to be told that we would have to go back and get them. There have been times over the years that folks there have told us not to waste our time with the process anyway... not to mention that we have taken a number of people from the Bahamas over to the States on our boat while bypassing customs on our end. This is a very small island,,, maybe only 150 total population. You know everyone and it has always been an "understanding" that we all took care of each other in this Dept. So I just tell the Fisheries officer that I don't have the documents (I don't try and deny anything),,, she then calls immigration and customs to get them involved. NOT GOOD.

So then, the Fisheries officer wants to see everything I have in my deep freezer in our place. I show her with no disagreement of any kind. She takes all of my catches for the week and then asks me to see what's in my freezer on top of my fridge. I show her that all I have in that are a bunch of stone crab claws that I purchased from my Bahamian fishing guide. She then tells me that they are Out Of Season and that I'm not allowed to have them... I had no clue about this.

Customs then comes and takes everything off of my boat including the keys to the engines. I'm told that they'll be holding onto everything including my boat until I resolve my violations.

Next,,, I'm told that I will be spending the night in the jail cell on Grand Cay... Imagine the smallest insect infested cell you can think of. Well, it was 10 times worse than that. I had to spend the night there,,, my family and friend were allowed to stay at our place.

The next morning, a group of 7 immigration and customs officers come to Grand Cay from Freeport in their high speed boat. They are there to collect all of us and take us to Freeport. That morning I was able to retain the services of a Bahamian Senator as my attorney. He was going to be there when we arrived in Freeport. Our high speed boat ride would have been really high speed if they hadn't had Mercury outboards (of the 4 they had on the back of the boat, only 3 would run) LOL.

Once in Freeport, we were all transported to the immigration building to be held in their jail cells. My 3 sons and I are placed in one cell together and my wife and her girl friend are put in another. The cells are directly across from each other so we can see and talk to everyone in our group. These cells were nice as jail cells go... each one had a private bathroom and shower. We spent Saturday through Monday morning locked up in these cells. No TV, phones, Wi-Fi etc... It was a time of bonding for us all LOL. My sons and I had nothing else to do but to talk to each other... I learned some very interesting things from them. I also learned that jail fucking sucks.

During the weekend my attorney brought me up to speed on all of my charges and what could possibly happen with all of them. I had Fisheries, Immigration, and Customs charges. That meant that I'd have to have 3 separate trials... hopefully all on Monday. My charges allowed for HUGE fine possibilities, but my Senator attorney made me feel as though I wouldn't have to pay near the maximums.

My father flew in from Atlanta on Saturday night (Thank God) to help in anyway he could. He was telling everybody that he was there on a Rescue Mission.

On Monday morning the authorities decided that they were not going to charge my 16yr old twins with anything so they were allowed to leave jail with my Pops. The rest of us were headed off to our 1st trial. My oldest son and I were handcuffed together and transported into the courtroom. We had on our best board shorts (bathing suits) btw. My wife and her girl friend weren't handcuffed for some reason and they "somehow" had much more acceptable clothing to wear .... hahaha.

The 1st trial (immigration) was the one that could potentially result in the largest amount of fines according to my attorney. There was a fairly large number of people in attendance. At end of this one, all charges were dropped for my wife, son, and our friend. My fines were $1000 to immigration and I also was being required to donate $1000 to the Grade / High School in Grand Cay. It could have been well over $30k in fines. RELIEF.

I was then put into a holding cell in the courthouse to wait on my next trial (Fisheries). I had to wait basically all day. This trial was supposed to be the least of my problems / worries. But instead of receiving what we expected to be the worst possible fine of $1500... I was given a fine of $9000 that had to be paid by 4:00pm or I would be forced to serve a 6 month jail sentence. It was almost 4:00 when the nightmare bitch judge made her ruling on this. Out of the "kindness" of her heart she decided that she would give me until 12 noon the next day to pay. All fines have to be paid in cash btw.

The only way to reliably get cash there is through Western Union and they close at 4pm. As a result, I was informed that I was going to be transported to the regular jail in Freeport for the night. Meanwhile the phones in the courthouse are ringing off the walls and each time all of my business is being given out to whoever wanted to know. Nothing is private.

The jail in Freeport was ROUGH. The police officer escorting me to my cell was reading my fines and results aloud as we walked down through all of the cells... so all of my fellow inmates were getting brought up to speed on my brutal crime spree. The cells were painted completely black and there was no bathroom / toilet of any kind in them. I was put in my cell and I was preparing for a wonderful blanket-free night's sleep on my concrete floor. I was in there for a couple of hours I think and then the police officer came down to inform me that my fines were paid and that I was free to go with my attorney. WOW

I was able to spend that night with my family in a local hotel. Our friend flew home earlier that day. I still had another trail (customs) to deal with in the morning. My attorney told me to expect a fine of $5000 ,,, but it could be as much as $10K and they could KEEP my boat as well. The judge was ready to give me the max penalty until he heard about how my entire family had be Locked Up for the whole weekend. He took pity on me and "only" fined me $3000 and he released my boat and belongings. I was actually pleased with the $3000 fine,,, Crazy Shit.

So now , my whole family and I are required to leave the Bahamas by boat (not mine) right away to go back to our country of origin. I'm told by my attorney that I will have to find someone to bring my boat back to the US because immigration is going to put me on the No Entry List. While we are waiting on our boat to depart, I'm forced to wait in the immigration office. They want to ensure that I am leaving the country. While I'm waiting, the Head of Immigration calls me into his office and proceeds to lecture me on how none of this was serious and a bunch of other BS... I say something like - "If none of this was such a Big Deal, why in the hell was he not allowing me to return to the Bahamas. I even asked him if he'd be willing to bring my boat back to the US since I was now needing to hire someone to do it for me. This is an angry insensitive looking individual I'm speaking with. He stares at me silently for at least 2 minutes ,,, then he tells me that he is not going to restrict me and that I'm free to come and go from the Bahamas like anyone else. I still have to leave the country right away though.

We get home and I have to charter a small prop plane to get me and a friend back to my boat. We flew over on Saturday and brought the boat back Sunday. I saw the little fucker fishing guide who set me up while I was there. I didn't speak to him, and he knew better than to speak to me. He walked away Scott Free btw,,, even though he was on the boat with all of us.

The bad economy has really hurt the Bahamas severely. It's pushed many of them to the point of desperation. What happened to me was an act of desperation... I know that now. I left myself open for something like this because of perceived friendship and a false sense of trust. Hard lesson to learn,,, plus it cost me over $30K.

My story was on the TV, radio, and all newspapers in the Bahamas. Front page news... Infamous.

They took all of my lobster, fish, conch and stone crabs btw. As a result, the tailgate menu will have to be modified for the Tampon game. I was able to buy a bunch of conch before I came back on Sunday though so the conch salad (ceviche) is still going to be served.

Because of the length of this story, I left out a bunch of insane crazy shit that happened during the whole nightmare. More than on person involved including the Head of Customs for the Bahamas thinks this should be turned into a movie. And in case anyone is wondering,,, we are all able to laugh about this now.

This has to be the longest post I've ever written.
 

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I'm happy to hear you and yours made it back.
Being locked up is one thing. Having your family locked up would be unbearable.
 

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You international spy you, $30,000 what a bite,I'm just glad you're home and safe bruddah,had to scare the hell out of you when they put your kids in jail,think that guide gets a cut ,or he turned you cuz they had something on him?
 

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You international spy you, $30,000 what a bite,I'm just glad you're home and safe bruddah,had to scare the hell out of you when they put your kids in jail,think that guide gets a cut ,or he turned you cuz they had something on him?


Yeah,,, we're pretty sure he gets a cut. That, and the fact that he is related to, and very close friends with the Fisheries officer who was waiting for us that day. She is doing everything she can to try and make a name for herself so she can get a promotion and get transferred to a larger island. The head of Fisheries in Freeport simply could not believe that we were charged with anything at all when he found out that we had a B.O.B. He also couldn't believe that if we were charged... then how in the world weren't the same charges given to our B.O.B. The stone crab that he sold us was also telling... we didn't know that you couldn't have those and he really pushed them on us early in the week... that Fisheries officer "somehow" knew that we had them before she ever looked in our place.

I think that it was their hope that my boat would end up being part of my penalty. If someone didn't have the cash... they could offer their boat or equipment instead.

This B.O.B. of ours knew exactly what he was supposed to do in the situation we encountered. When I went back to get my boat, lots of people there were telling me what a piece of shit he was to not do his part,,, many of them were still in shock that he did what he did. Simply put... he cut off his nose to spite his face.

They are so desperate over there right now,,, I believe a guy like him would sell his own mother for a few bucks. Very sad.
 

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Man that sucks, George. Can't freakin' trust anyone anymore I guess. But, like you said, needing money will make you hamstring your family members if need be (over there). Sorry you had to go through all that, but it's good to hear you can look back on it and laugh so quickly. Shows Dude-ish character, man. lol. And ... you get a pretty good story out of it to share for the rest of your life. Not many people can say they were in both a resort prison cell and a dirt hole in the same vacation (the latter sounded like a Tijuana cell). And your kids! I'm sure they'll be telling this one for years! Amirite, @Ramrasta?

Anyway. Glad you all came out safe. Money ... you can replace that.

But 30 G's? Ouch.
 

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Confiscate Cat A Tonic ????????????????????????????? I'd bring the Moe Down and we'd go pirate on their spindly asses , get few smoke grenades mount a water cannon on the bow so nobody got hurt too bad except when you opened your ninja kick ass on that Bahamamutherfucker ,don't fuck with a mans ship.
 

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My boys took it as a badge of honor... The twins were talking about how much Street Cred they'd have now telling everyone they'd been locked up in Bahamian jail.

One of the twins was more traumatized by not having WIFI for a 2 night period than the actual jail... He's got a high maintenance girlfriend.

I was the only one who had to deal with the Third World country jail cells thank goodness. Wish I had pics of them... wow.
 

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Confiscate Cat A Tonic ????????????????????????????? I'd bring the Moe Down and we'd go pirate on their spindly asses , get few smoke grenades mount a water cannon on the bow so nobody got hurt too bad except when you opened your ninja kick ass on that Bahamamutherfucker ,don't freak with a mans ship.


Man, you can best believe that I had all kinds of evil thoughts running through my head about stuff like that. I have a very quick temper... For me, amazing restraint was shown by not going full on Mike Tyson on that guides ass. I think the memories of the fancy jail cells there helped keep me calm.

I've seen some real large mounted guns / cannons on Bahamian Customs boats. We'll need more than a water cannon LOL... but the thought of having a water cannon sure seems like loads of fun.

Thanks for the support Rich.
 

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Man, you can best believe that I had all kinds of evil thoughts running through my head about stuff like that. I have a very quick temper... For me, amazing restraint was shown by not going full on Mike Tyson on that guides ass. I think the memories of the fancy jail cells there helped keep me calm.

I've seen some real large mounted guns / cannons on Bahamian Customs boats. We'll need more than a water cannon LOL... but the thought of having a water cannon sure seems like loads of fun.

Thanks for the support Rich.
Anytime Jorge seems like a great way to go out in a pitched battle on the high seas ,swashbuckling all the way(y)
 

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Holy hell dude. As a fellow INTL traveler I have one policy: DTA (don't trust anyone).

Seeing a monument or something, the general rule for me is NO GUIDES. They are shady and will rip you off (especially if they figure out your from another country).

Anyway, I'm rambling. Glad you made it out safe in a relatively short amount of time. I've read about people being locked up for months to years.
 

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Man that sucks, George. Can't freakin' trust anyone anymore I guess. But, like you said, needing money will make you hamstring your family members if need be (over there). Sorry you had to go through all that, but it's good to hear you can look back on it and laugh so quickly. Shows Dude-ish character, man. lol. And ... you get a pretty good story out of it to share for the rest of your life. Not many people can say they were in both a resort prison cell and a dirt hole in the same vacation (the latter sounded like a Tijuana cell). And your kids! I'm sure they'll be telling this one for years! Amirite, @Ramrasta?

Anyway. Glad you all came out safe. Money ... you can replace that.

But 30 G's? Ouch.

It was crazy for sure. All those fish and lobster... Gone :confused:
 

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This story is true and fucked up. I'm going to go ahead and share it for it's pure entertainment value and for the possibility that it might help someone avoid having something similar happen. Plus, some have been asking so...

Let me first make something very clear... This was all my fault. Despite whatever set-up or other circumstances that may have been a big part of this,,, I should have never allowed myself to be so trusting and vulnerable.

Back on August 2nd my wife, 3 sons, my wife's friend and I all traveled in our boat across the Atlantic about 140 miles to what we have come to call our 2nd home. A tiny island in the Bahamas (Grand Cay). The crossing wasn't the most pleasant as hurricane Bertha was coming up from the southern Caribbean. We made it with no real problems,,, it was totally safe, just a little bumpy seas and I had to navigate around some thunderstorms. We arrived about an hour later than normal because of the conditions... but all was well and we proceeded to have about 7 days of extremely good diving, fishing, food, etc.

But at about 6:30pm on Friday August 8th, everything changed. My long time fishing guide (I've used him for the last 10 yrs) was driving us back to the marina after another monster day of diving / fishing. I have him captain my boat when I'm over there so that I can really relax (drink). Strangely,,, he purposely pulled our boat out in front of 3 other boats who were already waiting to enter the marina area. Once he wheeled into the marina, I was very surprised to see a Fisheries officer standing at the end of our slip as if she was expecting us. My surprise was due to the fact that I have never seen a Fisheries officer at the docks asking to see your catch in the 20yrs that I have been going there. I wasn't concerned at that moment though.

Another reason I have a Bahamian "guide" us over there is because having a B.O.B. (Bahamian On Board) allows you to harvest more than the limit of whatever you are catching... Anything over the limit simply has to be claimed by the B.O.B. if you are ever checked. Well,,, when we gladly showed our catch to the officer, our supposed friend and guide of over 10yrs claims he doesn't know anything about it. So I'm now in violation of a Fisheries law.

But it gets worse. The Fisheries officer then asks me for my immigration / customs paperwork. This is a problem because I didn't check in at customs when we first arrived. We didn't because our 3 boys had forgotten their birth certificates, and we didn't realize it until we were there. We didn't want to be told that we would have to go back and get them. There have been times over the years that folks there have told us not to waste our time with the process anyway... not to mention that we have taken a number of people from the Bahamas over to the States on our boat while bypassing customs on our end. This is a very small island,,, maybe only 150 total population. You know everyone and it has always been an "understanding" that we all took care of each other in this Dept. So I just tell the Fisheries officer that I don't have the documents (I don't try and deny anything),,, she then calls immigration and customs to get them involved. NOT GOOD.

So then, the Fisheries officer wants to see everything I have in my deep freezer in our place. I show her with no disagreement of any kind. She takes all of my catches for the week and then asks me to see what's in my freezer on top of my fridge. I show her that all I have in that are a bunch of stone crab claws that I purchased from my Bahamian fishing guide. She then tells me that they are Out Of Season and that I'm not allowed to have them... I had no clue about this.

Customs then comes and takes everything off of my boat including the keys to the engines. I'm told that they'll be holding onto everything including my boat until I resolve my violations.

Next,,, I'm told that I will be spending the night in the jail cell on Grand Cay... Imagine the smallest insect infested cell you can think of. Well, it was 10 times worse than that. I had to spend the night there,,, my family and friend were allowed to stay at our place.

The next morning, a group of 7 immigration and customs officers come to Grand Cay from Freeport in their high speed boat. They are there to collect all of us and take us to Freeport. That morning I was able to retain the services of a Bahamian Senator as my attorney. He was going to be there when we arrived in Freeport. Our high speed boat ride would have been really high speed if they hadn't had Mercury outboards (of the 4 they had on the back of the boat, only 3 would run) LOL.

Once in Freeport, we were all transported to the immigration building to be held in their jail cells. My 3 sons and I are placed in one cell together and my wife and her girl friend are put in another. The cells are directly across from each other so we can see and talk to everyone in our group. These cells were nice as jail cells go... each one had a private bathroom and shower. We spent Saturday through Monday morning locked up in these cells. No TV, phones, Wi-Fi etc... It was a time of bonding for us all LOL. My sons and I had nothing else to do but to talk to each other... I learned some very interesting things from them. I also learned that jail freaking sucks.

During the weekend my attorney brought me up to speed on all of my charges and what could possibly happen with all of them. I had Fisheries, Immigration, and Customs charges. That meant that I'd have to have 3 separate trials... hopefully all on Monday. My charges allowed for HUGE fine possibilities, but my Senator attorney made me feel as though I wouldn't have to pay near the maximums.

My father flew in from Atlanta on Saturday night (Thank God) to help in anyway he could. He was telling everybody that he was there on a Rescue Mission.

On Monday morning the authorities decided that they were not going to charge my 16yr old twins with anything so they were allowed to leave jail with my Pops. The rest of us were headed off to our 1st trial. My oldest son and I were handcuffed together and transported into the courtroom. We had on our best board shorts (bathing suits) btw. My wife and her girl friend weren't handcuffed for some reason and they "somehow" had much more acceptable clothing to wear .... hahaha.

The 1st trial (immigration) was the one that could potentially result in the largest amount of fines according to my attorney. There was a fairly large number of people in attendance. At end of this one, all charges were dropped for my wife, son, and our friend. My fines were $1000 to immigration and I also was being required to donate $1000 to the Grade / High School in Grand Cay. It could have been well over $30k in fines. RELIEF.

I was then put into a holding cell in the courthouse to wait on my next trial (Fisheries). I had to wait basically all day. This trial was supposed to be the least of my problems / worries. But instead of receiving what we expected to be the worst possible fine of $1500... I was given a fine of $9000 that had to be paid by 4:00pm or I would be forced to serve a 6 month jail sentence. It was almost 4:00 when the nightmare bitch judge made her ruling on this. Out of the "kindness" of her heart she decided that she would give me until 12 noon the next day to pay. All fines have to be paid in cash btw.

The only way to reliably get cash there is through Western Union and they close at 4pm. As a result, I was informed that I was going to be transported to the regular jail in Freeport for the night. Meanwhile the phones in the courthouse are ringing off the walls and each time all of my business is being given out to whoever wanted to know. Nothing is private.

The jail in Freeport was ROUGH. The police officer escorting me to my cell was reading my fines and results aloud as we walked down through all of the cells... so all of my fellow inmates were getting brought up to speed on my brutal crime spree. The cells were painted completely black and there was no bathroom / toilet of any kind in them. I was put in my cell and I was preparing for a wonderful blanket-free night's sleep on my concrete floor. I was in there for a couple of hours I think and then the police officer came down to inform me that my fines were paid and that I was free to go with my attorney. WOW

I was able to spend that night with my family in a local hotel. Our friend flew home earlier that day. I still had another trail (customs) to deal with in the morning. My attorney told me to expect a fine of $5000 ,,, but it could be as much as $10K and they could KEEP my boat as well. The judge was ready to give me the max penalty until he heard about how my entire family had be Locked Up for the whole weekend. He took pity on me and "only" fined me $3000 and he released my boat and belongings. I was actually pleased with the $3000 fine,,, Crazy crap.

So now , my whole family and I are required to leave the Bahamas by boat (not mine) right away to go back to our country of origin. I'm told by my attorney that I will have to find someone to bring my boat back to the US because immigration is going to put me on the No Entry List. While we are waiting on our boat to depart, I'm forced to wait in the immigration office. They want to ensure that I am leaving the country. While I'm waiting, the Head of Immigration calls me into his office and proceeds to lecture me on how none of this was serious and a bunch of other BS... I say something like - "If none of this was such a Big Deal, why in the hell was he not allowing me to return to the Bahamas. I even asked him if he'd be willing to bring my boat back to the US since I was now needing to hire someone to do it for me. This is an angry insensitive looking individual I'm speaking with. He stares at me silently for at least 2 minutes ,,, then he tells me that he is not going to restrict me and that I'm free to come and go from the Bahamas like anyone else. I still have to leave the country right away though.

We get home and I have to charter a small prop plane to get me and a friend back to my boat. We flew over on Saturday and brought the boat back Sunday. I saw the little freaker fishing guide who set me up while I was there. I didn't speak to him, and he knew better than to speak to me. He walked away Scott Free btw,,, even though he was on the boat with all of us.

The bad economy has really hurt the Bahamas severely. It's pushed many of them to the point of desperation. What happened to me was an act of desperation... I know that now. I left myself open for something like this because of perceived friendship and a false sense of trust. Hard lesson to learn,,, plus it cost me over $30K.

My story was on the TV, radio, and all newspapers in the Bahamas. Front page news... Infamous.

They took all of my lobster, fish, conch and stone crabs btw. As a result, the tailgate menu will have to be modified for the Tampon game. I was able to buy a bunch of conch before I came back on Sunday though so the conch salad (ceviche) is still going to be served.

Because of the length of this story, I left out a bunch of insane crazy crap that happened during the whole nightmare. More than on person involved including the Head of Customs for the Bahamas thinks this should be turned into a movie. And in case anyone is wondering,,, we are all able to laugh about this now.

This has to be the longest post I've ever written.

Did I read correctly that they sold you back the fish that they confiscated?
 

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This type of set up happens a lot I'm sure. I know I have heard about people smoking a joint with a person in Jamaica, then buying some weed only to have a cop show up a little later and bust them. 5 grand later all is well. That happened to a guy my sister was dating when she was in her early twenties. It was bad news because it was a family vacation and ended up being ruined by the set up. Dad wasn't too happy to drop that kinda cash so I can imagine 30K would make you want to beat the guy badly.

I wonder how his rep has been damaged though.......or do people "understand".
 

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Did I read correctly that they sold you back the fish that they confiscated?


I wish. Hahaha

I think what you're talking about was that I was sold some stone crab claws. They were sold to me by my fishing guide guy. To catch those you have to have traps and shit that only a commercial guy would have access to. My guide never bothered to tell me that they were out of season and it was against the law to have at this time of year. Funny how the Fisheries officer knew I had these in my freezer already. Those crab claws cost me $3000 in fines plus the $175 I paid for them. Somebody else is feasting on my 15 pounds of claws right about now.
 

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This type of set up happens a lot I'm sure. I know I have heard about people smoking a joint with a person in Jamaica, then buying some weed only to have a cop show up a little later and bust them. 5 grand later all is well. That happened to a guy my sister was dating when she was in her early twenties. It was bad news because it was a family vacation and ended up being ruined by the set up. Dad wasn't too happy to drop that kinda cash so I can imagine 30K would make you want to beat the guy badly.

I wonder how his rep has been damaged though.......or do people "understand".


Oh,,, his rep has taken a huge hit. Some of the locals I talked with when I went back to get my boat last weekend were saying things like "now you know who you've been dealing with". Too bad I was in the dark.

I think I already said this but he cut off his nose to spite his face.
 

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This type of set up happens a lot I'm sure. I know I have heard about people smoking a joint with a person in Jamaica, then buying some weed only to have a cop show up a little later and bust them. 5 grand later all is well. That happened to a guy my sister was dating when she was in her early twenties. It was bad news because it was a family vacation and ended up being ruined by the set up. Dad wasn't too happy to drop that kinda cash so I can imagine 30K would make you want to beat the guy badly.

I wonder how his rep has been damaged though.......or do people "understand".
Exactly what we were warned about when we went to the Bahamas. There were all kinds of guys trying to sell us weed and "nose candy". The Britts we were hanging with were just flat out rude to them telling them to fuck off and sell their jail bait somewhere else.
 

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Well George, I would have given you a like on the story but how can anyone like such a freakin' nightmare. Just glad you are back and can tell it. Conch Ceviche is good 'nuff fer me anyway. :D Having you, your wife, and T at the game is what matters on that end.

We'll talk soon man.