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It's been a little while since my last mock, and the Rams have made a couple major splashes. I actually tried very hard to identify some new guys to throw into this mock, but after a fairly exhaustive search, I felt the guys I keep coming back to have the best film.

My process for Day 3 picks is to look for special traits. Guys who fall to Day 3 have flaws. You can find diamonds in the rough by finding guys who have special traits that translate to the NFL. Those traits might allow them to overcome their flaws. I really looked far and wide for edge guys, and nobody who is currently slotted in the 3rd round or later range has impressed me more than Jeff Holland. I looked into guys who put up great athletic testing numbers as our second edge guy on Day 3, but none of them had a trait like Mata'afa's get-off.

Anyways, the point I'm making is that I'd like to offer new players to give you more names, but I am trying to hone in on the guys who I feel will help this team the most. And based on all the film I've watched thus far, the guys below are those players.
Trades
Rams trade Round 4 Pick #35, Round 4 Pick #36, and Round 6 Pick #21
Broncos trade Round 4 Pick #13 and Round 5 Pick #23

We trade up in the 4th round with the Broncos to land our developmental LT.

NFL Draft
Round 3 Pick #23 - Shaquem Griffin ILB/OLB UCF

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6jFL3W1Z7E

Analysis: Griffin checks in at 6'0" 227 pounds with surprising power and elite burst/speed. Griffin closes like few can at the LB position, and his 4.38 40 at the Combine reflects his freakish speed. He's been a highly-effective pass rusher because of his ability diverse set of rush moves and evolved pass rush plan along with his elite speed and quickness off the edge. He doesn't have the size to hold up as an edge, but he should be an effective blitzer. Griffin has had plenty of snaps in coverage and shows the athleticism to handle M2M coverage responsibilities in the NFL. In the running game, he's a sideline-to-sideline LB who will sift through traffic to make TFLs. He can also close from the backside due to his incredible speed. Despite his small stature, Griffin has shown the ability to work off of and through blockers. Griffin's missing hand can limit him at times. It can make it harder for him to disengage from blocks and can cause him to miss tackles. However, Griffin's unique blend of elite speed for his position along with top-notch instincts means that the tackles he generally misses due to his hand are tackles that few other LBs would have been in a position to make. Griffin is a film room junkie who went as far as to put his mattress in the facility during camp to allow himself to stay overnight to watch more film. It shows in his play through his tremendous instincts, tendency to be in the right place at the right time, and his evolved pass rush plan. Simply put, if Griffin had two hands, I think he'd be considered one of the top players in the Draft. He's been highly productive the past two years at UCF and won the Senior Bowl Practice Player of the Week Award. His game reminds me of Lavonte David and Deion Jones.

Round 4 Pick #11 - Jeff Holland OLB Auburn

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkzzTPeHBpQ

Analysis: You may not have heard of Jeff Holland as he only has one year of starting experience, but he made the most of that year by posting 45 tackles, 13 TFLs, 10 sacks, and 4 FFs in his only year starting in the SEC. What stood out to me while watching Holland is all of the stats that won't show up on the box score. I don't know if I've seen another guy in this class who pressures the QB as much as Holland. Watching his bowl game against UCF, he pressured the QB on almost every single passing play. At 6'1" 249 pounds with 33.5 arms and 10.5 hands, Holland has very long arms and big hands for his size. He definitely fits the mold of a 3-4 OLB. Holland uses his long arms and big hands to win consistently as an edge rusher. He has some of the most polished hand usage and sophisticated pass rush plans in this class. Holland actually has taken martial arts training to improve his hand fighting ability. As it stands now, his go-to moves are the two-handed swipe and the rip and run. Holland consistently wins off the edge by using his advanced hand usage, outstanding punch timing, natural leverage, and polished body positioning to thwart the attempts of tackles to push him past the pocket. Holland's powerful lower body and great balance also allow him to flatten out when turning the corner and prevent OTs from riding him past the QB. Young pass rushers should watch Holland's film to learn how to use their inside arm to soften the edge. Simply put, Holland won't be a workout warrior and doesn't have the prettiest looking body, but he wins as a pass rusher with technical skill, football IQ, heavy hands, power, balance, and tenaciousness. He actually posted comparable production to Carl Lawson, who posted 8.5 sacks as a rookie with the Bengals in 2017. As a run defender, Holland uses his natural leverage, power, and advanced hand usage to set a hard edge. He has some tightness in his lower body which limits his ability to drop into coverage and prevents him from reaching his full potential as a finisher and as a run defender in space, but Holland is a tenacious pass rusher who should drive NFL QBs crazy with his constant pressure.

Round 4 Pick #13 - Geron Christian OT Louisville

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-qsN0QHcuQ

Analysis: Geron Christian started every game during his college career for Louisville, including his entire true freshman season. At 6'5" 298 pounds with 35 inch arms and 10.75 inch hands, Christian is not lacking for NFL measurables. Louisville's scheme asks their OTs to flip between LT and RT during the game, so Christian has ample experience at both spots, which makes him an ideal player for a swing OT role as a rookie. As a pass protector, Christian is remarkably steady. He is a natural bender who sits comfortably in his space, mirrors with ease, has light feet and smooth change of directional skills, and positions himself well to not give DLs easy pressure or sacks. Christian lost very few snaps in pass protection in the film I watched. He uses his length, smooth athleticism, and great balance to frustrate pass rushers trying to get the better of him. The only two criticisms I have of him as a pass protector are that he needs to be more precise with his punch placement and he needs to get stronger. With his punch placement, his hands have a tendency to end up outside on the DL. With his functional strength, he needs a stronger anchor against bull rushers. He does a nice job of recovering when he's initial beat with a bull rush, but he gives a bit too much ground at times. As a run blocker, Christian definitely needs to get stronger. He doesn't generate a lot of movement in the ground game. He's more an angle and positioning blocker. He's steady in that regard and rarely blows assignments, but he also doesn't blow people off the ball. All in all, he's a guy who can step in and hold his own as a rookie swing OT, and if he gets stronger in the NFL, he has starting OT potential down the line. At only 21 years old, Christian has time to develop his game.

Round 5 Pick #23 - Hercules Mata'afa OLB Washington State

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT7JRYFo35E

Analysis: Mata'afa was an incredibly productive player in his final year at Washington State posting 45 tackles, 22.5 TFLs, and 10.5 sacks as an undersized DT. At 6'2" 252 pounds with only 31.5 inch arms, Mata'afa will not be playing DT in the NFL. With a strong Combine, I felt Mata'afa could boost himself into the first round like Melvin Ingram did by proving he was a 3-4 OLB instead of a tweener. Unfortunately for Mata'afa, he had an underwhelming Combine which have only made the belief that he's a tweener intensify. Still, Mata'afa's film shows a kid with elite get-off who anticipates the snap count well and can play under blockers. Mata'afa has a non-stop motor, the strength to set the edge, good quickness, and a nose for the football. He has great football character, outstanding overall intangibles, and a will to be the best. Mata'afa may not have the athleticism to win on the edge in the NFL, but I think it's worth a try. He's the type of kid who will work as hard as anyone to try and make it happen. With his special traits, I think there's certainly a chance that he can develop into a dangerous pass rusher in the NFL. At minimum, he should contribute on special teams.

Round 6 Pick #2 - Jack Cichy ILB Wisconsin

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTirt1ZQFI4

Analysis: Cichy is just a really good football player. The problem for him is his injury history. He missed all of 2017 with a torn ACL, and he missed half of the 2016 season with a torn pectoral muscle. However, I think it's worth the risk because he's a Day 2 talent on tape. Cichy is a very smart and sound football player who possesses good athleticism for his size. At 6'2" 238 pounds with solid arm length, Cichy has the dimensions of a NFL ILB. While Cichy won't overpower blockers, he is quite adept at slipping blocks due to his advanced hand usage and agility. He sifts through traffic well, plays with consistent gap integrity, and tackles well, even in space. Cichy also reads his keys well and rarely takes false steps. The thing that stands out the most is Cichy's ability to close when he gets a path to the runner. He may not run a 4.4 40, but he plays fast. As a blitzer, Cichy is highly effective due to his outstanding anticipation of the snap count and his hand usage when rushing the passer. He puts a lot of pressure on the QB when used on A-gap blitzes. His cover skills are good; although, he's a better zone defender than man defender. Cichy also has that sort of annoying style that gets into the heads of offensive players. He plays through the whistle, is constantly buzzing around opposing players, and has a non-stop motor. All in all, Cichy checks all the boxes and should contribute in the NFL if he stays healthy. He'll be great depth at ILB and can contribute on special teams. If Cichy is gone, Tegray Scales is another possible name here.

Round 6 Pick #9 - Tony Adams C/OG N.C. State

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JhYeqHA2Ik

Analysis: Tony Adams is a guy I just recently stumbled upon after reading Lance Zierlein's sleeper list. As y'all know, I'm a big fan of Zierlein's OL evaluations, and I must agree that Adams is a sleeper in this Draft. At 6'1" 302 pounds, Adams is going to be overlooked for his lack of height. However, he has 33.5 inch arms, which more than compensate for that lack of height. Adams is a four-year starter at RG and team captain. He did play some Center as a freshman, and that's where I think he ends up in the NFL. Adams is a former high school wrestler and tennis star. You can see both of those sports in his game as he has the upper body strength and hand-eye coordination that you expect from a wrestler with the quality footwork and great balance you expect from a tennis player. Adams rarely falls off blocks, positions himself beautifully when executing his blocking assignments, and is very comfortable blocking in space and on the second level. He times his punches well, he's very reliable in pass protection, and he executes his assignments consistently as a run blocker. What are his weaknesses? He only possesses average overall strength, so he doesn't generate a lot of push in the running game, and he can get pushed back by very strong DTs. Nevertheless, he uses angles and positioning well in the running game to open up holes, and he competes hard as a pass protector. I think Adams would be an outstanding fit in our scheme because of his versatility and how well he fits the Center position in Kromer's blocking scheme. This kid may not be a HOFer, but he strikes me as a guy who has the ability to be a very solid starting Center for a long time in the right scheme.

Round 6 Pick #20 - Phillip Lindsay HB Colorado

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Lpqc99k9-I

Analysis: Phillip Lindsay's nickname is the "Tasmanian Devil" because of his endless energy, toughness, and refusal to let his size limit him. At 5'7" 185 pounds, Lindsay is definitely undersized, but that didn't stop him from rushing for 2726 yards and 30 TDs over the past two seasons at Colorado. He also caught 76 passes during that time. Lindsay is a fearless pass protector who will stonewall edge rushers despite his small stature. He saved his QB from a number of hits in college. He's actually been compared to Chris Thompson by some, and there's validity to the comparison. Lindsay is small with good speed (4.39 40 at his Pro Day), great pass protection skills, and good pass-catching skills. He won't break a lot of tackles as a runner, but he'll get what's blocked. He has the potential to be a valuable HB on passing downs.

Projected Starters
QB: Jared Goff
HB: Todd Gurley
WR: Brandin Cooks
WR: Robert Woods
WR: Cooper Kupp
TE: Gerald Everett
LT: Andrew Whitworth
LG: Rodger Saffold
C: John Sullivan
RG: Jamon Brown
RT: Rob Havenstein

SDE: Michael Brockers
NT: Ndamukong Suh
DT: Aaron Donald
WOLB: Matt Longacre
WILB: Mark Barron
SILB: Cory Littleton
SOLB: Samson Ebukam
LCB: Marcus Peters
RCB: Aqib Talib
SLCB: Nickell Robey-Coleman
FS: LaMarcus Joyner
SS: John Johnson III

K: Greg Zuerlein
P: Johnny Hekker
LS: Jake McQuaide
 

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And as you guys can tell, I think what we should be looking for in edge rushers are guys who can run the arc and will bring it on every down in terms of motor and tenaciousness. With Donald, Suh, and Brockers inside, we don't need elite edges. What we need are guys who will make it difficult on QBs who try to take deeper drops and bail out the back of the pocket and will refuse to quit on the play. With our interior DLs, there will be plenty of clean-up sacks available for plays where the QB gets flushed due to inside pressure.
 

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Have you looked into Kemoko Turay? What are your thoughts on him?

I love this draft, by the way.
 

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Have you looked into Kemoko Turay? What are your thoughts on him?

I love this draft, by the way.

Turay is my #2 guy who might be available to us (Holland is #1). There are a lot of things to like about his game. He's a long edge rusher with violent hands, a diverse set of pass rush moves, quality hand usage, great athleticism, and an outstanding motor. He has a lot of potential. He could be a really nasty speed-to-power rusher. I have three big concerns with him that drop him below Holland:
1. He lacks hip and ankle flexibility. This forces him to take wider angles when running the arc. It's too bad because he has such great speed and can really use his hands well. If he had better bend, he'd be a much more prolific finisher.
2. He has below average contact balance. This also limits him as a finisher and when he runs the arc or tries to bull through traffic.
3. He struggled to stay healthy in college.

Comparing him and Holland, Turay is the more gifted athlete. That's why I wouldn't be surprised if the Rams chose him. However, Holland is the better pass rusher at this point in time, and I love his traits. I will admit that I did strongly consider taking Turay with our 3rd round pick, keeping Holland where he is, and then adding Tegray Scales with one of our 4th round comp picks. In the end, though, I wanted to draft Geron Christian, so I scrapped that plan.

Anyways, Turay has the potential to be a great sacker in the NFL. He'll have to do it in a different manner than Holland, though. Turay will have to rely on his powerful hands, explosion off the edge, and quickness. He'll need to use speed-to-power rushes, diverse pass rush moves, and a more sophisticated pass rush plan. He'll have trouble finishing if he relies on running the arc. Holland, on the other hand, can continue to run the arc in the NFL. He's really gifted with his hands, his small stature and body positioning gives OTs a very small target, and his contact balance, low center of gravity, and natural leverage make it difficult to push him up the field when he runs the arc.

With the interior pass rush we'll have, I think Holland's style is perfect for us. But I wouldn't complain if we grabbed Turay. He's gifted. If we grab both, I think we'll be celebrating.
 

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I like all these LBers in our draft.

Seems we could land one or two If we drafted 4.

Hard to get too excited about later round prospects but it’s good to see some of
These guys flash. Holland’s size and burst combo looks intriguing.
 

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Good stuff. Interesting no TE,WR,qb late. Thought their might be a project there.
I like Shaq and even if I remove my Scarlet glasses I still would like Turay
 

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As usual Counselor great job, however, the one position they might address is Safety late, but this takes care of ILB and offensive line depth and FWIW's Griffin is a great story, but I just have reservations about him at the next level. Now I have not seen that much of him, so maybe I'm just being overly cautious, but with all things being even, why not draft a guy with two hands? I realize that comes off harsh, but shedding blocks and being able to grab a guy, who gets to the edge will be an issue and again, the kid is amazing, but I call it as I see it.

Love the Tony Adams selection, watched him quite a bit and add in, he was a wrestler and that is icing on the cake. My feeling is being a wrestler aids with you hands and being able to win the leverage battle at the point of attack. Austin Blythe also wrestler and I know you annotated that you feel Adams best position is Center at the next level, but I truly believe he could hold up well at guard.
 
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Good stuff. Interesting no TE,WR,qb late. Thought their might be a project there.
I like Shaq and even if I remove my Scarlet glasses I still would like Turay

I was going to try and sneak Christopher Herndon in at TE, but I ran out of picks.

As usual Counselor great job, however, the one position they might address is Safety late, but this takes care of ILB and offensive line depth and FWIW's Griffin is a great story, but I just have reservations about him at the next level. Now I have not seen that much of him, so maybe I'm just being overly cautious, but with all things being even, why not draft a guy with two hands? I realize that comes off harsh, but shedding blocks and being able to grab a guy, who gets to the edge will be an issue and again, the kid is amazing, but I call it as I see it.

Love the Tony Adams selection, watched him quite a bit and add in, he was a wrestler and that is icing on the cake. My feeling is being a wrestler aids with you hands and being able to win the leverage battle at the point of attack. Austin Blythe also wrestler and I know you annotated that you feel Adams best position is Center at the next level, but I truly believe he could hold up well at guard.

Why not draft a DT that is 300 pounds? Why not draft a QB who doesn't have small hands and isn't skinny? Why not draft a QB who is taller 5'11"? Why not draft a WR who runs faster than a 4.6 40?

Players fall for all sorts of reasons. The key to the draft is finding flaws that are being overly magnified and traits that are special. You ask why not draft a LB with two hands? There aren't any LBs with two hands that have his combination of athleticism, film, production, and intangibles available after the first round.

Simply put, Shaquam's film speaks volumes. We've seen two-handed LBs who were first round prospects who are worse than him at shedding blocks. We've seen worse tacklers too. Yes, he has a limitation, but he works like few do to overcome it, and he does. The guy has a heart of a lion, plays the game with the hottest motor imaginable on eveyr snap, and shows absolutely no fear when it comes to attacking blockers.

Simply put, making the safe pick doesn't get you that far. You have to be bold. Fortune favors the bold. This is one of those times where being bold is very, very smart. Worst case scenario, Shaquem is a dominant special teams player. That has value. But with his intangibles and athletic skill-set, I see him becoming a great LB.
 

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Simply put, making the safe pick doesn't get you that far. You have to be bold. Fortune favors the bold. This is one of those times where being bold is very, very smart. Worst case scenario, Shaquem is a dominant special teams player. That has value. But with his intangibles and athletic skill-set, I see him becoming a great LB.

Valid points for sure, FWIW's still don't like QB's with small hands, but that sure worked out, plus if the Rams do indeed draft Griffin, he would be a stud on special teams, but again, IMHO, I would rather have an ILB a tad more stout against the run.
 

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It's been a little while since my last mock, and the Rams have made a couple major splashes. I actually tried very hard to identify some new guys to throw into this mock, but after a fairly exhaustive search, I felt the guys I keep coming back to have the best film.

My process for Day 3 picks is to look for special traits. Guys who fall to Day 3 have flaws. You can find diamonds in the rough by finding guys who have special traits that translate to the NFL. Those traits might allow them to overcome their flaws. I really looked far and wide for edge guys, and nobody who is currently slotted in the 3rd round or later range has impressed me more than Jeff Holland. I looked into guys who put up great athletic testing numbers as our second edge guy on Day 3, but none of them had a trait like Mata'afa's get-off.

Anyways, the point I'm making is that I'd like to offer new players to give you more names, but I am trying to hone in on the guys who I feel will help this team the most. And based on all the film I've watched thus far, the guys below are those players.
Trades
Rams trade Round 4 Pick #35, Round 4 Pick #36, and Round 6 Pick #21
Broncos trade Round 4 Pick #13 and Round 5 Pick #23

We trade up in the 4th round with the Broncos to land our developmental LT.

NFL Draft
Round 3 Pick #23 - Shaquem Griffin ILB/OLB UCF

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6jFL3W1Z7E

Analysis: Griffin checks in at 6'0" 227 pounds with surprising power and elite burst/speed. Griffin closes like few can at the LB position, and his 4.38 40 at the Combine reflects his freakish speed. He's been a highly-effective pass rusher because of his ability diverse set of rush moves and evolved pass rush plan along with his elite speed and quickness off the edge. He doesn't have the size to hold up as an edge, but he should be an effective blitzer. Griffin has had plenty of snaps in coverage and shows the athleticism to handle M2M coverage responsibilities in the NFL. In the running game, he's a sideline-to-sideline LB who will sift through traffic to make TFLs. He can also close from the backside due to his incredible speed. Despite his small stature, Griffin has shown the ability to work off of and through blockers. Griffin's missing hand can limit him at times. It can make it harder for him to disengage from blocks and can cause him to miss tackles. However, Griffin's unique blend of elite speed for his position along with top-notch instincts means that the tackles he generally misses due to his hand are tackles that few other LBs would have been in a position to make. Griffin is a film room junkie who went as far as to put his mattress in the facility during camp to allow himself to stay overnight to watch more film. It shows in his play through his tremendous instincts, tendency to be in the right place at the right time, and his evolved pass rush plan. Simply put, if Griffin had two hands, I think he'd be considered one of the top players in the Draft. He's been highly productive the past two years at UCF and won the Senior Bowl Practice Player of the Week Award. His game reminds me of Lavonte David and Deion Jones.

Round 4 Pick #11 - Jeff Holland OLB Auburn

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkzzTPeHBpQ

Analysis: You may not have heard of Jeff Holland as he only has one year of starting experience, but he made the most of that year by posting 45 tackles, 13 TFLs, 10 sacks, and 4 FFs in his only year starting in the SEC. What stood out to me while watching Holland is all of the stats that won't show up on the box score. I don't know if I've seen another guy in this class who pressures the QB as much as Holland. Watching his bowl game against UCF, he pressured the QB on almost every single passing play. At 6'1" 249 pounds with 33.5 arms and 10.5 hands, Holland has very long arms and big hands for his size. He definitely fits the mold of a 3-4 OLB. Holland uses his long arms and big hands to win consistently as an edge rusher. He has some of the most polished hand usage and sophisticated pass rush plans in this class. Holland actually has taken martial arts training to improve his hand fighting ability. As it stands now, his go-to moves are the two-handed swipe and the rip and run. Holland consistently wins off the edge by using his advanced hand usage, outstanding punch timing, natural leverage, and polished body positioning to thwart the attempts of tackles to push him past the pocket. Holland's powerful lower body and great balance also allow him to flatten out when turning the corner and prevent OTs from riding him past the QB. Young pass rushers should watch Holland's film to learn how to use their inside arm to soften the edge. Simply put, Holland won't be a workout warrior and doesn't have the prettiest looking body, but he wins as a pass rusher with technical skill, football IQ, heavy hands, power, balance, and tenaciousness. He actually posted comparable production to Carl Lawson, who posted 8.5 sacks as a rookie with the Bengals in 2017. As a run defender, Holland uses his natural leverage, power, and advanced hand usage to set a hard edge. He has some tightness in his lower body which limits his ability to drop into coverage and prevents him from reaching his full potential as a finisher and as a run defender in space, but Holland is a tenacious pass rusher who should drive NFL QBs crazy with his constant pressure.

Round 4 Pick #13 - Geron Christian OT Louisville

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-qsN0QHcuQ

Analysis: Geron Christian started every game during his college career for Louisville, including his entire true freshman season. At 6'5" 298 pounds with 35 inch arms and 10.75 inch hands, Christian is not lacking for NFL measurables. Louisville's scheme asks their OTs to flip between LT and RT during the game, so Christian has ample experience at both spots, which makes him an ideal player for a swing OT role as a rookie. As a pass protector, Christian is remarkably steady. He is a natural bender who sits comfortably in his space, mirrors with ease, has light feet and smooth change of directional skills, and positions himself well to not give DLs easy pressure or sacks. Christian lost very few snaps in pass protection in the film I watched. He uses his length, smooth athleticism, and great balance to frustrate pass rushers trying to get the better of him. The only two criticisms I have of him as a pass protector are that he needs to be more precise with his punch placement and he needs to get stronger. With his punch placement, his hands have a tendency to end up outside on the DL. With his functional strength, he needs a stronger anchor against bull rushers. He does a nice job of recovering when he's initial beat with a bull rush, but he gives a bit too much ground at times. As a run blocker, Christian definitely needs to get stronger. He doesn't generate a lot of movement in the ground game. He's more an angle and positioning blocker. He's steady in that regard and rarely blows assignments, but he also doesn't blow people off the ball. All in all, he's a guy who can step in and hold his own as a rookie swing OT, and if he gets stronger in the NFL, he has starting OT potential down the line. At only 21 years old, Christian has time to develop his game.

Round 5 Pick #23 - Hercules Mata'afa OLB Washington State

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT7JRYFo35E

Analysis: Mata'afa was an incredibly productive player in his final year at Washington State posting 45 tackles, 22.5 TFLs, and 10.5 sacks as an undersized DT. At 6'2" 252 pounds with only 31.5 inch arms, Mata'afa will not be playing DT in the NFL. With a strong Combine, I felt Mata'afa could boost himself into the first round like Melvin Ingram did by proving he was a 3-4 OLB instead of a tweener. Unfortunately for Mata'afa, he had an underwhelming Combine which have only made the belief that he's a tweener intensify. Still, Mata'afa's film shows a kid with elite get-off who anticipates the snap count well and can play under blockers. Mata'afa has a non-stop motor, the strength to set the edge, good quickness, and a nose for the football. He has great football character, outstanding overall intangibles, and a will to be the best. Mata'afa may not have the athleticism to win on the edge in the NFL, but I think it's worth a try. He's the type of kid who will work as hard as anyone to try and make it happen. With his special traits, I think there's certainly a chance that he can develop into a dangerous pass rusher in the NFL. At minimum, he should contribute on special teams.

Round 6 Pick #2 - Jack Cichy ILB Wisconsin

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTirt1ZQFI4

Analysis: Cichy is just a really good football player. The problem for him is his injury history. He missed all of 2017 with a torn ACL, and he missed half of the 2016 season with a torn pectoral muscle. However, I think it's worth the risk because he's a Day 2 talent on tape. Cichy is a very smart and sound football player who possesses good athleticism for his size. At 6'2" 238 pounds with solid arm length, Cichy has the dimensions of a NFL ILB. While Cichy won't overpower blockers, he is quite adept at slipping blocks due to his advanced hand usage and agility. He sifts through traffic well, plays with consistent gap integrity, and tackles well, even in space. Cichy also reads his keys well and rarely takes false steps. The thing that stands out the most is Cichy's ability to close when he gets a path to the runner. He may not run a 4.4 40, but he plays fast. As a blitzer, Cichy is highly effective due to his outstanding anticipation of the snap count and his hand usage when rushing the passer. He puts a lot of pressure on the QB when used on A-gap blitzes. His cover skills are good; although, he's a better zone defender than man defender. Cichy also has that sort of annoying style that gets into the heads of offensive players. He plays through the whistle, is constantly buzzing around opposing players, and has a non-stop motor. All in all, Cichy checks all the boxes and should contribute in the NFL if he stays healthy. He'll be great depth at ILB and can contribute on special teams. If Cichy is gone, Tegray Scales is another possible name here.

Round 6 Pick #9 - Tony Adams C/OG N.C. State

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Analysis: Tony Adams is a guy I just recently stumbled upon after reading Lance Zierlein's sleeper list. As y'all know, I'm a big fan of Zierlein's OL evaluations, and I must agree that Adams is a sleeper in this Draft. At 6'1" 302 pounds, Adams is going to be overlooked for his lack of height. However, he has 33.5 inch arms, which more than compensate for that lack of height. Adams is a four-year starter at RG and team captain. He did play some Center as a freshman, and that's where I think he ends up in the NFL. Adams is a former high school wrestler and tennis star. You can see both of those sports in his game as he has the upper body strength and hand-eye coordination that you expect from a wrestler with the quality footwork and great balance you expect from a tennis player. Adams rarely falls off blocks, positions himself beautifully when executing his blocking assignments, and is very comfortable blocking in space and on the second level. He times his punches well, he's very reliable in pass protection, and he executes his assignments consistently as a run blocker. What are his weaknesses? He only possesses average overall strength, so he doesn't generate a lot of push in the running game, and he can get pushed back by very strong DTs. Nevertheless, he uses angles and positioning well in the running game to open up holes, and he competes hard as a pass protector. I think Adams would be an outstanding fit in our scheme because of his versatility and how well he fits the Center position in Kromer's blocking scheme. This kid may not be a HOFer, but he strikes me as a guy who has the ability to be a very solid starting Center for a long time in the right scheme.

Round 6 Pick #20 - Phillip Lindsay HB Colorado

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Analysis: Phillip Lindsay's nickname is the "Tasmanian Devil" because of his endless energy, toughness, and refusal to let his size limit him. At 5'7" 185 pounds, Lindsay is definitely undersized, but that didn't stop him from rushing for 2726 yards and 30 TDs over the past two seasons at Colorado. He also caught 76 passes during that time. Lindsay is a fearless pass protector who will stonewall edge rushers despite his small stature. He saved his QB from a number of hits in college. He's actually been compared to Chris Thompson by some, and there's validity to the comparison. Lindsay is small with good speed (4.39 40 at his Pro Day), great pass protection skills, and good pass-catching skills. He won't break a lot of tackles as a runner, but he'll get what's blocked. He has the potential to be a valuable HB on passing downs.

Projected Starters
QB: Jared Goff
HB: Todd Gurley
WR: Brandin Cooks
WR: Robert Woods
WR: Cooper Kupp
TE: Gerald Everett
LT: Andrew Whitworth
LG: Rodger Saffold
C: John Sullivan
RG: Jamon Brown
RT: Rob Havenstein

SDE: Michael Brockers
NT: Ndamukong Suh
DT: Aaron Donald
WOLB: Matt Longacre
WILB: Mark Barron
SILB: Cory Littleton
SOLB: Samson Ebukam
LCB: Marcus Peters
RCB: Aqib Talib
SLCB: Nickell Robey-Coleman
FS: LaMarcus Joyner
SS: John Johnson III

K: Greg Zuerlein
P: Johnny Hekker
LS: Jake McQuaide


Lemme just put this out there...

If we actually get this draft... HOLY CRAP!!!

I'm filing this under "too good to be true", but maaaaaan, would I be stoked if this happened.

Can Holland last until the 4th??? Mata'afa until the 6th?

Who knows, but I'd just love this draft to become a reality!
 

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Valid points for sure, FWIW's still don't like QB's with small hands, but that sure worked out, plus if the Rams do indeed draft Griffin, he would be a stud on special teams, but again, IMHO, I would rather have an ILB a tad more stout against the run.

This just isn't a good draft for that after the first 40 or so picks. Tegray Scales is a lot like Griffin. He's small but fearless. Outside of those two guys, I'm just not a huge fan of any of them. Kiser can bang, but he plays much slower than he times. McCray can bang, but he's about as athletic as tree stump. Cichy can shed blocks, but he hasn't played in 1.5 years. Avery has the build and athleticism, but he didn't play that much as a traditional LB. Leon Jacobs might be able to handle it, but he played as an edge at Wisconsin, and his instincts aren't up to snuff at this point.

Griffin is fearless, he's strong, and he has outstanding instincts. There's something to work with there. At minimum, he takes over for Barron next year. I actually think Cory Littleton can handle the thumper role (he looked good last year doing it). My concerns with him are in coverage.
 

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Lemme just put this out there...

If we actually get this draft... HOLY CRAP!!!

I'm filing this under "too good to be true", but maaaaaan, would I be stoked if this happened.

Can Holland last until the 4th??? Mata'afa until the 6th?

Who knows, but I'd just love this draft to become a reality!

Holland's body and average measurables work against him. Plus, he's a 3-4 only guy. Can't play 4-3 LB or 4-3 DE imo. Mata'afa has very little film on the edge, and his below average to average measurables work against him. It's possible he goes higher, but he's a very hard guy to figure out at this point. He's a tweener, and those guys tend to fall.
 

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Griffin is fearless, he's strong, and he has outstanding instincts. There's something to work with there. At minimum, he takes over for Barron next year. I actually think Cory Littleton can handle the thumper role (he looked good last year doing it). My concerns with him are in coverage.

Well, should be interesting draft as we have to take a wait and see approach, but if the Rams end up with some of these you projected, I would feel confident moving forward.
 

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I don't know if some of these players will be there when we pick but I would really love it if our draft turned out like this. Great job
 

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Lol. But you like Brandon Allen. Fits perfectly in with what @jrry32 is saying

Exactly. If there's one thing I am, it's bold. I don't like to constrain myself to the traditionalist mindset. There's a reason for it because I did use to do that. That reason is Russell Wilson. I absolutely loved his film at N.C. State and Wisconsin, but I convinced myself that despite all of the great things that I saw, he was too short to be a NFL starter. I wrote him off because of one flaw despite all of the great traits I saw. After Wilson made me eat crow, I decided that I wasn't going to focus on flaws. I was going to focus on special traits. Special traits overcome flaws.

That strategy has led to some mixed results. Obviously, Tavon and Scooby Wright didn't pan out as well as I was hoping, but Aaron Donald, Cooper Kupp, and Desmond King have panned out in a big way thus far. You're never going to hit on 100% of the guys you like, but I think this strategy helps to avoid writing off guys who can be successful. My scouting philosophy has always been to look for guys who flash on tape. If they don't flash, I don't want them. I might miss on some successful players because of it, but I don't let that bother me. What I'm most concerned with is whether that players I like are successful. That's what will determine if you're a successful drafter or not.
 

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Exactly. If there's one thing I am, it's bold. I don't like to constrain myself to the traditionalist mindset. There's a reason for it because I did use to do that. That reason is Russell Wilson. I absolutely loved his film at N.C. State and Wisconsin, but I convinced myself that despite all of the great things that I saw, he was too short to be a NFL starter. I wrote him off because of one flaw despite all of the great traits I saw. After Wilson made me eat crow, I decided that I wasn't going to focus on flaws. I was going to focus on special traits. Special traits overcome flaws.

That strategy has led to some mixed results. Obviously, Tavon and Scooby Wright didn't pan out as well as I was hoping, but Aaron Donald, Cooper Kupp, and Desmond King have panned out in a big way thus far. You're never going to hit on 100% of the guys you like, but I think this strategy helps to avoid writing off guys who can be successful. My scouting philosophy has always been to look for guys who flash on tape. If they don't flash, I don't want them. I might miss on some successful players because of it, but I don't let that bother me. What I'm most concerned with is whether that players I like are successful. That's what will determine if you're a successful drafter or not.
You nailed George Kittle too
 

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Heck, I've posted before the reason they keep Allen around is because they want Goff to think he has large hands.
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Don’t really claim to know much about the prospects, but I do 100% agree with your positions targeted

And if you’re just half as “on” as you were last year then...

Bravo! Young man :yess:

These are the types of players that will have an immediate impact on STs as (you keenly noted) some of our key teamers will now step up into starting roles
 
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