Jeff Fisher - "I knew in 2012 the Rams would move to LA"

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http://www.rams-news.com/jeff-fisher-move-took-toll-audio/

One minute in, he says he took the job in St. Louis "knowing there would be a pending move."

Anyone wants to know why St. Louisans are pissed at the NFL, and at Kroenke, here's your answer. Kroenke and Demoff come out and claim at every chance that they're not planning to move, they don't want to move, that Kroenke is a Missouri native who is dedicated to keeping the Rams in St. Louis, and it's all bullshit from the beginning.
 

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Figured as much.

And of course they lied. Can't have an empty stadium for 4 years.
 

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Why am I not surprised that Fisher is gonna tell all.

The NFL is a bit mobish.

Snitches get stitches... All this talking isn't going to help him.
 

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What is the organization suppose to say.

There is no such thing as a lame duck NFL team. The league always says there is a chance to keep a team in a city.....even if there isn't.
 

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Well, if it was true from the outset, many people were 100% wrong!
 

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Let him keep flapping his lips. He is digging his own grave and showing that he is willing to throw people under the bus because he feels like a jilted lover for not living up to the expectations of everyone else around him. His failure and now he is trying to bury people ... not a good trait
 

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Funny how Grubman said the NFL was committed to keeping teams in their host cities but now all 3 teams look likely to leave.
 

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http://www.rams-news.com/jeff-fisher-move-took-toll-audio/

One minute in, he says he took the job in St. Louis "knowing there would be a pending move."

Anyone wants to know why St. Louisans are ticked at the NFL, and at Kroenke, here's your answer. Kroenke and Demoff come out and claim at every chance that they're not planning to move, they don't want to move, that Kroenke is a Missouri native who is dedicated to keeping the Rams in St. Louis, and it's all bullcrap from the beginning.

No doubt it was.
What this also means is Fisher was lying too. He was part of it.
I recall watching Fisher on interviews where he said things like he did not ask if the Rams were moving as he did not want to know
so that he could answer his players honestly about the question - saying he did not know.
 

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Listening to it, he kind of says it matter-of-factly, and they don't press him on it, or ask him to clarify. It could be he's talking about his own suppositions at the time, early warning that such a thing might happen, or it's possible he was informed directly and in confidence of a long term plan to move the franchise... hard to definitively say from what's offered here. Just my own caveat, not stating an opinion on which is the actual case.

Aside from that, it's an interesting interview for a look into Jeff Fisher's personality and philosophy. He talks about being a father to the players, and loving the players. And given what we've seen, it's hard to come away from that comment without feeling a little sick about it. It sounds like--and looks like--there was a conflict of interest here, between Fisher wanting to be loved and to take care of these guys, and a Head Coach striving to put a winning product on the field.

During the interview, he defends himself while acknowledging that he didn't win enough games. He points out all the moves and stadiums he's played through, and sets it out there as a counterpoint to all the losing he's done. It's what someone would say who was trying to prop up Fisher, and to hear it from his mouth is a little startling and disconcerting.

To pointed questions about the offensive schemes, he answers directly that they "ran more shotgun," etc. which answers the questions, but doesn't account for the total ineffectiveness of the offense, and he doesn't show any interest in talking about offense. Instead he indirectly but directly calls out the personnel department on not re-signing Jenkins and McLeod.

All of this kind of seems to confirm what we already knew. It was time for him to go. He clearly had issues fixing a team of players who weren't willing or self-motivated to fix themselves. He had excuses baked into his season from the start. He insisted that he was running an up-to-date offense (not addressing whether or not or how it was broken), and showed that indeed he did harbor at least some latent resentment for the personnel and contracts side of the team. So yes. It was time.

Best of luck to him. He turned us around in his time here, but never took that clear next step into the post-season. Talent on the team is a lot better now. What they need is not a father, but a general. Let's hope when that general comes, he is the right guy, and the players are able to buckle down and follow him.
 

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Duh? St Louis never had a chance, Kroenke wanted to leave and the NFL is going to let the owner do what they want. That's why I knew they'd leave, there was no way they would force him to stay. Owners > Everyone else and if it's owner vs owner then whoever has the biggest checkbook wins.

When he was hired there were reports that relocation came up in the interview. That's when I knew.
 

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Nobody cares Jeff . You were hired to do a job and you couldn't do it . No hard feelings and on to a guy that can produce a winner .
 

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Yeah, and in 2012 I thought the world was going to end.

Come on Jeff no need to sound prophetic. Relax, enjoy your retirement.
 

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Yeah and in 2012 I thought you would hire Hue Jackson as offensive coordinator over Brian Schottenheimer because I thought everyone in the world knew that Jackson was far superior.
 

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Listening to it, he kind of says it matter-of-factly, and they don't press him on it, or ask him to clarify. It could be he's talking about his own suppositions at the time, early warning that such a thing might happen, or it's possible he was informed directly and in confidence of a long term plan to move the franchise... hard to definitively say from what's offered here. Just my own caveat, not stating an opinion on which is the actual case.

Aside from that, it's an interesting interview for a look into Jeff Fisher's personality and philosophy. He talks about being a father to the players, and loving the players. And given what we've seen, it's hard to come away from that comment without feeling a little sick about it. It sounds like--and looks like--there was a conflict of interest here, between Fisher wanting to be loved and to take care of these guys, and a Head Coach striving to put a winning product on the field.

During the interview, he defends himself while acknowledging that he didn't win enough games. He points out all the moves and stadiums he's played through, and sets it out there as a counterpoint to all the losing he's done. It's what someone would say who was trying to prop up Fisher, and to hear it from his mouth is a little startling and disconcerting.

To pointed questions about the offensive schemes, he answers directly that they "ran more shotgun," etc. which answers the questions, but doesn't account for the total ineffectiveness of the offense, and he doesn't show any interest in talking about offense. Instead he indirectly but directly calls out the personnel department on not re-signing Jenkins and McLeod.

All of this kind of seems to confirm what we already knew. It was time for him to go. He clearly had issues fixing a team of players who weren't willing or self-motivated to fix themselves. He had excuses baked into his season from the start. He insisted that he was running an up-to-date offense (not addressing whether or not or how it was broken), and showed that indeed he did harbor at least some latent resentment for the personnel and contracts side of the team. So yes. It was time.

Best of luck to him. He turned us around in his time here, but never took that clear next step into the post-season. Talent on the team is a lot better now. What they need is not a father, but a general. Let's hope when that general comes, he is the right guy, and the players are able to buckle down and follow him.

So who is your top 3 HC guys? Just asking is all
 

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http://www.rams-news.com/jeff-fisher-move-took-toll-audio/

One minute in, he says he took the job in St. Louis "knowing there would be a pending move."

Anyone wants to know why St. Louisans are ticked at the NFL, and at Kroenke, here's your answer. Kroenke and Demoff come out and claim at every chance that they're not planning to move, they don't want to move, that Kroenke is a Missouri native who is dedicated to keeping the Rams in St. Louis, and it's all bullcrap from the beginning.

what has this got to do with anything NOW?
 

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There were rumors in 2012 that Fisher was leaning towards the Dolphins due to a move. I guess having 5 years of job security was a major attraction to the job.
 

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2012, well after the CVC and the stadium authority informed Kroenke they would not honor the lease.
 

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Shocking, a jilted lover keeps talking anytime somebody puts a mic in front of him.