James Jones Top 5 Wrs

  • To unlock all of features of Rams On Demand please take a brief moment to register. Registering is not only quick and easy, it also allows you access to additional features such as live chat, private messaging, and a host of other apps exclusive to Rams On Demand.

kurtfaulk

Rams On Demand Sponsor
Rams On Demand Sponsor
Joined
Sep 7, 2011
Messages
16,606
.

sorry, can't seem to post video from nfl.com.

5 - Keenan Allen
4 - Stephan Diggs
3 - De'andre Hopkins
2 - Tyreek Hill
1 - Devante Adams

Haha, oh man.

This guy is living in the past.

.
 

Karate61

There can be no excellence without effort.
Rams On Demand Sponsor
SportsBook Bookie
Camp Reporter
Joined
Sep 10, 2014
Messages
6,928
Name
Jeff
Remove Allen and put Kupp at #1.
 

oldnotdead

Legend
Joined
May 16, 2019
Messages
5,406
Hopkins had 3 good years out of 7. He's been good not great in AZ scoring 6 TDs in each of his 2 years in AZ. Hopkins doesn't fit as an elite WR. IMO he's good not elite and is basically overrated most of his career. He has no business on that list.

Keenan Allen has been underrated his whole career. Trying to cover Keenan is like trying to cover Kupp. The problem with Allen is injuries and poor OCs.

.
 

Flint

Pro Bowler
Joined
Aug 17, 2017
Messages
1,612
It’s somewhat fashionable to overlook Kupp because he’s hard to explain. He’s not the fastest or quickest, he’s not overly big or strong, he’s not a jump ball guy. He’s a little bit of all of that along with being very technical, very smart and a very good route runner with a coach who knows how to maximize all those traits.
Leave him off your lists if you want, single cover him if you want and he’ll lead the league in yds and tds again.
 

PARAM

Hall of Fame
Joined
Aug 3, 2013
Messages
4,373
10 guys had 100 or more receptions in 2021.
Kupp had 22 more than #2
Kupp had the most yards.
And of the top 10 receivers in receptions, Kupp was #2 in yards per catch (13.4). In fact of the top 18 in receptions (83+) Kupp was #2 in ypc. So he didn't dink and dunk his way to those numbers.
Plus he had 16 TD receptions.

There is no way he shouldn't be on a top 5 or 3 or 1 list.
 

RamUK

Rams On Demand Sponsor
Rams On Demand Sponsor
Joined
Dec 5, 2018
Messages
1,008
just dumb

train
It should be dumb in this day and age, but it isn't, it's spot on.

Human biases are devastatingly powerful and because they're usually unconscious, we're completely unaware of them.

Anybody who knows anything about psychology realises that you simply cannot remove embedded beliefs that have been established over hundreds of years, even if we (hopefully) all wish we could.

There are literally zero reasons to leave Kupp off that list other than an unconscious bias.
 

Lunchbox

Starter
Joined
May 20, 2011
Messages
795
Name
LunchBox
Good description @Flint.

I think being left off this list has more to do with his physical attributes than his race. He is not the absolute best at anything that can be measured other than his production last season.

A list like this is purely subjective and depends on what criteria you use to determine a top 5 WR.

Used to be Kupp could be taken out of a game but he has made himself into an unstoppable force. He would be my #1 for sure.
 

BrooklynRam

Rookie
Joined
Apr 6, 2022
Messages
238
Racially prejudiced Black Guys of course leave Kupp off their lists. Normal thinking, fair-minded Black guys have Kupp no worse than 2.
 

jap

Legend
Joined
Jan 12, 2013
Messages
6,592
Racially prejudiced Black Guys of course leave Kupp off their lists. Normal thinking, fair-minded Black guys have Kupp no worse than 2.
The very fact that Cooper had broken so many Jerry Rice records at the collegiate level is what led to me 'baptizing' him as the 'White Jerry Rice' prior to his draft day - as politically incorrect as that phrase is.
 

AvengerRam

Benevolent Troublemaker
Joined
May 9, 2018
Messages
5,390
Jones came in at #479 on my list of talent evaluators, right after “average drunk guy at local sports bar.”
 

dang

Legend
Joined
Mar 15, 2018
Messages
7,501
Some “analysts (I.e. personalities)” are treating Kupp’s 2021 season as an anomaly. Therefore, they feel Kupp hasnt earned a top 5 status. When Kupp has a top 5 WR 2022 season there will be no reason to leave him off a top 5 WR list. I prefer Kupp going into the 2022 season having to prove he wasn’t an anomaly (vs everyone crowning him as one of the best 2 WRs in the league). But the secret is out he’s top 2 at worst.
 

Ballhawk

Please don't confuse my experience for pessimism!
Rams On Demand Sponsor
Joined
Jun 25, 2014
Messages
2,284
Name
NPW
Too bad that NFL DCs aren't that stupid.
 

Neil039

Rams On Demand Sponsor
Rams On Demand Sponsor
Joined
Apr 3, 2020
Messages
4,048
Jones has a history of making statements about race and defending players with criminal activity.

I think he knows exactly what he’s doing. It’s a farce and intentional. I agree with @jjab360 , he wants to create a talking point. Even when he’s wrong.
 

tempests

Hall of Fame
Joined
May 25, 2013
Messages
2,900
Do we know when this list was made? If it was after the season I have 0 respect for Jones.
Just a couple days ago. In fact this is his second list of top WRs he's made since the season ended. The first one was the week after the Super Bowl, and he left Kupp off that one too. This is the same list he made in February, the only change is he took Deebo Samuel off and put Stefon Diggs on.

If this was a list of top 5 WRs over the past five seasons, it would be solid. But it's supposed to be a list of who the top WRs in the NFL are, right now. Jones weighs what a player did prior to 2021 really heavily.


View: https://twitter.com/89JonesNTAF/status/1494836182366056449?s=20&t=Rki3hPY8kf61BbYGOt-c1g


^ Stubbornness is a really annoying trait, to me. Route running, hands, run after the catch, run blocking, football intelligence, Kupp is elite in all those categories. He didn't come out of nowhere and he's not going anywhere. He's going to get Pro Bowl recognition every year that Stafford is his QB.