It’s Time For Everyone To Let Rams QB Jared Goff Define Himself

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It’s Time For Everyone To Let Rams QB Jared Goff Define Himself
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“Why do we fall? So we can learn to pick ourselves up.” – Alfred Pennyworth, a fictional character in a fictional movie delivered this quote. The crazy thing is – fiction or not – This perfectly sums up the young Rams signal-caller. When you think about Jared Goff, this is really perfect.

The Rams young franchise quarterback has picked himself up off the ground time and time again, and February 2019 was no different than his days being a California Golden Bear.

The Super Bowl is all anyone talks aboutHere’s the latest delivered by Pro Football Talk’s Mike Florio on The Dan Patrick Show.




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Interesting note from @ProFootballTalk's Mike Florio: "I'm very skeptical about Jared Goff. I would not be surprised if he doesn't get a second contract with the Rams."


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Anyone can have an opinion It’s why such a thing as Freezing Cold Takes exists. But at least have something to back it up. Some argue that Cowboys Dak Prescott is a better quarterback than Goff. Why? Maybe because Prescott is the signal-caller for “America’s Team” or maybe because people are still not over Jared Goff’s rookie year behind a porous offensive line, no production from the best running back in the National Football League and operating under a first-year offensive coordinator that was, as Todd Gurley put it, “running a high school offense.” But yes, of course, clearly all Goff’s fault.

Lets just cut right to the chase. Goff is the one quarterback in the league that the majority thinks is a product of his Head coach. Let’s take a look at the statistics for Goff.

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First off, credit to Goff on the improvement each year. Second, efficiency. He may not be your first choice over having Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers or Drew Brees right now, but the idea that Goff is not even in the top-10 just seems off. If the only argument for Goff not being a top-10 quarterback is ‘Sean McVay reads the defense for him’ then you are sadly mistaken.

Goff still has his faults. He still misses open targets downfield, he still throws off his back foot, he still makes a bad decision here and there, and of course, he still throws a “duck” every game. However, he’s also a leader, intelligent, poised, hard-working, accurate, tough, athletic and has a great arm for the NFL game. The title of former first-overall pick will always lead to scrutiny, but don’t you think that maybe, just maybe Goff hasn’t received enough credit?

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Jared Goff(without Gurley TBH) beats Patrick Mahomes in epic shoot out.

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The tough part about getting to the Super Bowl and losing as a quarterback is always being named the reason for the loss and the fact that no one cares about what you did to get there if you can’t get the “W”, which has been proven by fans and analysts alike.

It doesn’t matter that Goff led his Rams squad to the Super Bowl while at the age of 24. It doesn’t matter that he improved in almost every single passing statistic. It doesn’t matter that he took his first loss in the playoffs last year and helped lead the Rams to two playoff wins the very next year. All that matters is that Goff and the Rams offense only scored three points in the biggest game of the year.

It’s a chosen narrative. It’s become the ‘cool’ thing to say. We won’t go into the fact that the Rams defense stifled the legendary Tom Brady and Bill Belichick Patriots for 97% of the game either. The reason? The Patriots won. The Rams did not.

We move onto the 2019 season. The 24-14 career starter has an NFC Title to help defend and a Super Bowl revenge tour that awaits. It’s time to let Goff define himself.

Everyone talks about where Goff falls in the list of quarterbacks. At the end of the day, Goff doesn’t care, Sean McVay doesn’t care, and the Rams don’t care. All this team cares about is hoisting the Lombardi trophy at the end of the 2019-20 season. You’ll see article after article and TV spot after TV spot on how ‘Jared Goff has immense pressure on himself to succeed’ or ‘Jared Goff needs to earn his contract.’ Goff will need to go out and prove himself in his fourth season….again.




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Jared Goff on throws 20+ yards down the field (2018)

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919 yards (15.3 yards per attempt)
8 TD’s
3 INT’s
110.4 passer rating (NFL average on throws 20+ yards downfield is ~81)

His best deep throws from last season:


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The double narrative will always be around and people will manipulate things to see how they fit, almost as if it’s a puzzle and no one else can solve it but the person making the narrative.

With Goff, it’s going to be “Well, he has Robert Woods, Brandin Cooks, Cooper Kupp, Josh Reynolds, Todd Gurley, Darrell Henderson & Gerald Everett.” It’s always going to be that way. If you somehow prove the critic wrong, you will likely hear, “Well, he has Sean McVay.” But eventually Goff is going to prove that critic wrong and then you will surely hear about how great his offensive line is and how they give him all the time in the world.

This upcoming year, all the talk is of a Super Bowl hangover for Goff and the Rams. What many are discounting is that in year four and at just 25-years old, Goff will get even better. Our friend Benjamin Allbright tweeted out this great tidbit that goes along well with all of this.


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Five QBs in NFL history with a TD% of over 5% and and INT% below 2.5% (min 1,000 attempts)

1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Tom Brady
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The answer is Jared Goff


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Whether it’s Sean McVay’s doing or not, it’s time for people to let Goff show us. This right here is an impressive stat from Allbright and to be completely honest, it isn’t shocking. Goff has been a model of consistency since McVay took over, but more so, since he left the high school offense and that 4-12 season in 2016.

We don’t seem to question Tom Brady for being with Bill Belichick or Drew Brees being with Asshole Face. However, it’s like a sin to think Goff is actually better than people give him credit for because of McVay. That’s not to take credit from McVay who is by all means, a football savant and a coaching genius. He could be the best coach in the NFL when Belichick decides to hang up the hoodie. That doesn’t mean Goff can’t be great as well.

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Right now, at this point in time, I believe Goff is the seventh best quarterback heading into the new season. It may sound high, but Goff certainly has the production. He went to a Super Bowl appearance in his third year, he thrown 60 touchdowns to just 9 interceptions, and has tallied a 24-7 record in his last two years.

Maybe everyone got so used to the 0-7 Jared Goff that they haven’t actually given the modern day Jared Goff a chance. Troy Aikman started off 0-11 and we all know how that career turned out. It’s not about how you start, it’s about how you finish and Goff is certainly moving up the rungs since stumbling out of the gate.

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Jared Goff is the youngest QB to ever win an NFC championship game


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What does Goff have left to do? A lot. However, the most important thing is winning a Super Bowl and he came very close to doing that with no experience in the big game, against a duo that has won six Super Bowls together. This season should be a special one for Goff. He gets another year under his belt in McVay’s offense, another year to gel with last year’s trade acquisition Brandin Cooks, and will not only receive Cooper Kupp back from injury, but he will also receive a new weapon in the form of rookie RB Darrell Henderson.

Now, let’s stop bashing Goff and comparing him to lesser talents like Prescott and allow him to define himself this year in his fourth season with Super Bowl vengeance on his mind.
 

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Look we all know Florio is an idot. How many QB's get their team to the Super Bowl in their 3rd year? What more do you want? Goff is a pocket passer who has enough mobility to extend plays. His passer rating is very good when he does.He's not a flashy running QB, and he's not undersized. Let's see how durable the fashionable young running QB's are. I would be surprised if Mahomes and Murray don't hit the IR sometime during their first 5 years, and probably like Wentz more than once.

In 3 years Goff has proven he's one of the best QB's in the NFL. Oh yeah the Rams let him walk and watch how many teams jump at the opportunity to sign him. Yeah Florio your an idot.
 

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It's not how you handle success, its how you handle failure that defines great QB's. Look at Goff's college career. 1-11 and gets pummeled. A brutal first year. He overcame that. His rookie year with Fisher. Again he gets pummeled. Then he gets better and eventually gets his team to the SB.

There is not another QB in the NFL I would rather have for the Rams in the next ten years than Jared Goff. If he stays healthy, Goff is going to shatter every Ram QB record.
 

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That article would have been better served listing Jared's first 3 seasons and comparing them directly to those of Manning, Rogers, Brady, etc. And any other of the other greatest sigal callers.

Jared Goff is the most underrated great QB in history. He will be a Hall of Famer. Media are just more concerned with their egos than actually doing the research that would enable them to see it clearly.
 

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That article would have been better served listing Jared's first 3 seasons and comparing them directly to those of Manning, Rogers, Brady, etc. And any other of the other greatest sigal callers.

Jared Goff is the most underrated great QB in history. He will be a Hall of Famer. Media are just more concerned with their egos than actually doing the research that would enable them to see it clearly.
I've actually done that before! Big believer in Goff.
 

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I'm not trying to be too critical of your other article when I say, your sentence structure and composition was much better in this article. The one on Henderson seemed maybe a little rushed and needed some editing.

That being said, I enjoyed this article and found it a much easier read.

Keep pushing Jake.
 

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Maybe the idiotic narrative surrounding Goff will just serve to push him harder. He just doesn't seem to like being underestimated. He acts all chill about it but it doesn't seem to me to be very believable.
 

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I'm not trying to be too critical of your other article when I say, your sentence structure and composition was much better in this article. The one on Henderson seemed maybe a little rushed and needed some editing.

That being said, I enjoyed this article and found it a much easier read.

Keep pushing Jake.
Hey man that helps! I've been out of writing legit pieces for about three months. Shaking off the rust. I'm glad you liked this one.
 

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The Stephen A Smith image is perfect for how the media reacted to the golden boy being outdueled by Goff.

Saw the GMFB crew talking about how Wentz is still all that and now the Eagles just need to build a team around him like he hasn't been on one of the most stacked teams in the league since being drafted. They won a freaking Super Bowl with their backup QB, the team around him is fine.

Never love for Goff, but eventually when all the other flashes in the pan have fizzled out, the only thing left will be Goff dropping dimes up and down the field so much people are going start wondering if he rooms with Snoop.
 

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Jared Goff is the most underrated great QB in history. He will be a Hall of Famer. Media are just more concerned with their egos than actually doing the research that would enable them to see it clearly.

Jared reacted like this in his rookie season and it pained him.
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Jared reacted like this in his first Super Bowl and it pained him even more.
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I’ve watched Football and analyzed QB’s for over 40 years so don’t need anyone’s opinion on a QB.

I call it like it is and have criticized even my own teams QB if i wasn’t a a believer in them.

This Jared Goff is an Elite QB. We are seeing the beginning years of a legend.
 

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Off the field, in interviews and in casual situations, Goff seems like a very likable dude. Funny, sharp, natural.

As a Quarterback, he is sneaky good. He has more tools than anybody thinks. Most importantly, he has a natural arm and is a natural leader. He keeps his cool, believes in himself and puts in the work.

I am with the others who say there is not a QB out there I would rather have. There isnt a trade package you could dream up that I would give up Jared Goff for.
 

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It would be nice if people would let him grow and develop but it’s probably not going to happen. The narrative seems to be established and some guys refuse to consider changing.
Goff was another blown pick by the rams, they had a chance at Wentz but screwed it up, Wentz is bigger, faster, stronger and more charismatic. He’s also susceptible to injury it seems.
Goff is the surfer dude with a goofy grin who might not know where the sun comes up.
His numbers are as good as anyone’s but this seems more about perception; he was a bust under Fisher, he’s a puppet under McVay and he was the qb in one of the worst SBs ever. It wouldn’t shock me to see him listed as the 4th qb in the nfc west.
It doesn’t seem like this is going to change anytime soon, any success will still be McVay and the tremendous talent around him and any failure will be affirmation of his less than elite status.
It would be great if people fawned over Goff like they do Garapalo but this team was in qb hell for a long long time and I’m thrilled they finally found one who could get them to the big game.
 

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I don't know what is about Goff that brings out all these critics. First it was his rookie season. He was put in the worst possible situation a 22 year old rookie could be put in. Bad line. Bad receivers. Bad system. Bad coaching. No quarterback would have done well, Brady, Brees, Rodgers combined woulda struggled.

Then comes McVay and all of sudden Goff's looking good. But it wasn't Goff. He was just a "system quarterback". It was all McVay. And that playoff loss proved to them Goff doesn't have it.

Then comes the 2018 season. Goff is playing like an MVP. Yet, its still not him. Its McVay, the line and the receivers. Oh, and its Gurley. When they played the Bears it was like "Aha! I told you so!" Nevermind every quarterback has bad games sometimes. Goff had a bad game in freezing cold against the league's best defense.

And finally, the Superbowl. You're only as good as your last game to these people. Yet, 30 other quarterbacks don't get the scrutiny he gets. Their last game was not the Superbowl.

The thing is, these people came up with a narrative on Goff several years ago and cannot admit they were wrong. They are now looking for reasons to be right. You can come up with reasons for every quarterback. Its not hard.

The bottom line to us Rams fans, they can win with Goff. He's already proven that. The Rams are not gonna let him walk and draft "McVay"s guy". They already have McVay's guy. That would be stupid. Dumping a proven playoff quarterback for an unproven in the middle of your proverbial window being open would be a job killer for a GM and a coach. How many rookies win Superbowls?