How good is Russell Wilson?

[Legatron4]

Okay, I can't stand that midget more then anyone. But, I see people all the time(including myself), that say he's overrated. My question is, how good is he?

Lets go over some stats. He's totaled 83 touchdowns over the past 3 seasons. That means if he plays 10 years at that pace, he will have 270 touchdowns. Which would be good for 12th all time. Just to put things in perspective, I don't think he could score 27 touchdowns for 10 years in a row. He will get older and slower so his rushing ability will diminish eventually. However, he may develop his passing skills over time.

Now heres where it gets tricky. A lot of people believe that without a top 3 defense and the best running back in football, Wilson would be below average. I'm definitely one of those people. BUT, Seattle had the number 3 defense and Marshawn Lynch in 2011 and went 7-9. So in reality, all they needed was a QB to put them over the edge. The offense went from 27th overall to 17th overall when he got drafted. And they were 9th overall last year.

So, are we in denial? Is Russell Wilson really that good, or is it because of the team around him?

 

[CanRamFan]

I don't have any stats to back up my opinion up but I see him as an average QB. I don't see anything extraordinary when I watch him play. Scrambling is his best asset imo but his arm is not that impressive. Lynch keeps the defense honest which I'm sure contributes greatly to his success. I think it's a team effort over there in Seattle and Wilson gets too much of the credit for the team. It will be an atrocity if he does end up the highest paid QB in the NFL.

Just my $0.02

 

[JackDRams]

I only ever see the guy laying down on the job. Of course I only really watch him play the rams. I want to see him play without an all pro RB.

 

[Stranger]

I'm glad we have Foles

 

[The Ripper]

Is it the system or the qb? I would say it's the system. Look at the QB's that had success at USC under Carroll; Carson Palmer, Matt Leinart and Mark Sanchaz. Palmer has been the only one that has been a consistent QB in the NFL.

 

[-X-]

He's obviously a good QB, but he's not asked to do a ton in that offense either.
That team was 1st in rushing attempts per game in 2012.
2nd in 2013.
2nd last year.

Of course he contributes a lot to the amount of rushing attempts and yardage that team gets; and because of that, he's not a pure QB in any sense of the word. He's a dual threat whose success is predicated Lynch's ability (which keeps defenses keyed on the RB), and their defense which always allows their offense to play to their own strengths instead of playing catch-up. But make no mistake. Wilson's ability to extend plays by buying time inside (and outside) the pocket is a HUGE plus. And the reason all running QBs aren't as successful as him is because most of the other ones are stupid. Like Seattle or hate'm, Wilson is a pretty cool character. Shame he's on that shithead team, really.

 

[Legatron4]

He's obviously a good QB, but he's not asked to do a ton in that offense either.
That team was 1st in rushing attempts per game in 2012.
2nd in 2013.
2nd last year.

Of course he contributes a lot to the amount of rushing attempts and yardage that team gets; and because of that, he's not a pure QB in any sense of the word. He's a dual threat whose success is predicated Lynch's ability (which keeps defenses keyed on the RB), and their defense which always allows their offense to play to their own strengths instead of playing catch-up. But make no mistake. Wilson's ability to extend plays by buying time inside (and outside) the pocket is a HUGE plus. And the reason all running QBs aren't as successful as him is because most of the other ones are stupid. Like Seattle or hate'm, Wilson is a pretty cool character. Shame he's on that shithead team, really.

I agree for sure. He's certainly not asked to do much. But I think he makes the most of his opportunities.

 

[-X-]

I agree for sure. He's certainly not asked to do much. But I think he makes the most of his opportunities.

Sure he does.
And to contrast those rushing attempts per game...

32nd in the league in passing attempts per game in 2012
and 2013
and last year.

 

[Athos]

I think there's just something rather self-righteous about him as a person......that just annoys me.

Like, he has one of those fake smiles you just wanna punch.

On the QB front though, he's mediocre as hell if you keep him contained. Which is what the Rams have mostly been able to do. It is my opinion, that if we had a halfway decent offense last several times we played the Hags, that can get us a lead, Wilson gets rocked. And the hags get shut down.

He makes maybe over 50% of his plays outside the pocket. And he takes a beating, even though he's prolly the smartest scrambling QB in knowing when it give up on the play.

But when those legs go, I think he slides something fierce. He's not Brees.

 

[yrba1]

Wilson is certainly a Top 10 active QB in my book. But I also believe he's easily capable of faltering more than Rodgers or Luck based on his height and play style. Only recently have the Seahawks started passing more, the tape will provide opportunities for other teams to throw wrenches at different angles. How he reacts to it determines whether he's a one-hit wonder or a Top 10 QB.

 

[jrry32]

Good QB. In the top 10 but not in the top 5 or the elite tier.

 

[Legatron4]

Sure he does.
And to contrast those rushing attempts per game...

32nd in the league in passing attempts per game in 2012
and 2013
and last year.

Very true. The definition of a game manager.

 

[hotanez]

I don't think he's a top 3 QB but I think he's a very good QB definitely top 10. People talk about the defense and the run game but to be honest you also have to take into account the shitty OL and the crappy WRs they have. He makes those WRS look good with his feet. He buys them time to get open. Plus when the game is on the line he makes plays and that's all that matters right?

 

[bluecoconuts]

He's smart, makes the most of his chances. He's a very good game manager, but without a strong team around him I think he'd struggle quite a bit.

I don't think he's elite, but he's one of the better QBs out there. Mostly for what's between the ears.

 

[hotanez]

And I fucken hate him

 

[Legatron4]

I think there's just something rather self-righteous about him as a person......that just annoys me.

Like, he has one of those fake smiles you just wanna punch.

On the QB front though, he's mediocre as hell if you keep him contained. Which is what the Rams have mostly been able to do. It is my opinion, that if we had a halfway decent offense last several times we played the Hags, that can get us a lead, Wilson gets rocked. And the hags get shut down.

He makes maybe over 50% of his plays outside the pocket. And he takes a beating, even though he's prolly the smartest scrambling QB in knowing when it give up on the play.

But when those legs go, I think he slides something fierce. He's not Brees.

Oh as a person I think he's a douch. But I agree and disagree with you. We got a lead on them this year and he led them roaring back and almost won it. We have kept him very well contained though. We've sacked him what, 5 times per game? That's a pretty amazing stat. I want to believe he is just mediocre. But if he performs well this year and hits the 4,000 yard mark then I'm going to have to believe he is legit. And that's going to suck.

 

[Angry Ram]

Meh, he gets bailed out a lot by luck. Hugely shown off in the Super Bowl.

Dude's game by game numbers aren't anything special but he always makes that one damn throw that either wins a game or is a big part of it.

 

[JUMAVA68]

He's a tad above average with a excellent running game and a top 3 defense.His ability to extend plays with his legs pushes him above that average line imho.Put him on just about any other team over the last 3 years and were not having this discussion.

 

[Corbin]

So in reality, all they needed was a QB to put them over the edge.

This is the exact reason why I think we will over come our hump this year.
We have a Qb in Foles this year.

He's obviously a good QB, but he's not asked to do a ton in that offense either.
That team was 1st in rushing attempts per game in 2012.
2nd in 2013.
2nd last year.

Of course he contributes a lot to the amount of rushing attempts and yardage that team gets; and because of that, he's not a pure QB in any sense of the word. He's a dual threat whose success is predicated Lynch's ability (which keeps defenses keyed on the RB), and their defense which always allows their offense to play to their own strengths instead of playing catch-up. But make no mistake. Wilson's ability to extend plays by buying time inside (and outside) the pocket is a HUGE plus. And the reason all running QBs aren't as successful as him is because most of the other ones are stupid. Like Seattle or hate'm, Wilson is a pretty cool character. Shame he's on that shithead team, really.

My answer to the question.

 

[RAGRam]

Doesn't turn the ball over a lot? Check
Moves the ball downfield? Check

Don't care if he's top 5, or top 10, you're going to win games if you have a QB who ticks those boxes.

 

[Loyal]

He's smart, makes the most of his chances. He's a very good game manager, but without a strong team around him I think he'd struggle quite a bit.

I don't think he's elite, but he's one of the better QBs out there. Mostly for what's between the ears.

*Takes off homer hat...

Boys, he's damn good. He is a winner. He has really good pocket awareness and can deliver the ball when he needs to. Seriously, I would take him over any QB in the NFC West. Like a writer said that unlike Kaep, RG3,etc.. He runs the ball, but is smart about it. Sure, having Lynch has helped him immensely..Yet, he knows his role in the offense and does it extremely well. I want Foles to be better, no doubt. Yet, without seeing Foles in the offense if you asked me which QB I would take between Foles and RW, it would be Wilson (Seattle fans, I will deny this to the death if you are reading this!:lifting: