HOF Rams: 1999 vs. 2021

[AvengerRam]

The 1999 Rams Championship team has produced five HOFs (Orlando Pace, Kurt Warner, Marshall Faulk, Isaac Bruce and Dick Vermiel). It will likely add a sixth when Torry Holt finally gets called to Canton.

How many HOFs will the 2021 team produce?

Locks: Aaron Donald, Von Miller
Possible: Andrew Whitworth, Eric Weddle, Matthew Stafford
On their way, but still more to do: Cooper Kupp, Sean McVay, Jalen Ramsey
Longshot, but not impossible: Johnny Hekker, Odell Beckham, Jr.

The Rams will continue to be well represented!

 

[Kupped]

The 1999 Rams Championship team has produced five HOFs (Orlando Pace, Kurt Warner, Marshall Faulk, Isaac Bruce and Dick Vermiel). It will likely add a sixth when Torry Holt finally gets called to Canton.

How many HOFs will the 2021 team produce?

Locks: Aaron Donald, Von Miller
Possible: Andrew Whitworth, Eric Weddle, Matthew Stafford
On their way, but still more to do: Cooper Kupp, Sean McVay
Longshot, but not impossible: Johnny Hekker, Odell Beckham, Jr.

The Rams will continue to be well represented!

I'd actually put Kupp between "Locks" and "Possible."
That kind of year changes the conversation for a player.. the comp I come up with is Terrell Davis.. he's #56 on the all-time rushers list.
Kupp will need less than 4 more years of just average production to move into that kind of range.
He's the only player to win the Triple Crown, SB MVP and be a first team All-Pro in the same season. That's the stuff that gets enshrined, imo.

 

[AvengerRam]

I'd actually put Kupp between "Locks" and "Possible."
That kind of year changes the conversation for a player.. the comp I come up with is Terrell Davis.. he's #56 on the all-time rushers list.
Kupp will need less than 4 more years of just average production to move into that kind of range.
He's the only player to win the Triple Crown, SB MVP and be a first team All-Pro in the same season. That's the stuff that gets enshrined, imo.

I agree that this season put him on the map as a HOF contender. That said, I think he needs to have another 4-5 years at a high level and get to 10,000 receiving (he's currently at 5,500) to put him in the "lock" category. As long as he stays healthy, I think he's got a great shot.

 

[Kupped]

I agree that this season put him on the map as a HOF contender. That said, I think he needs to have another 4-5 years at a high level and get to 10,000 receiving (he's currently at 5,500) to put him in the "lock" category. As long as he stays healthy, I think he's got a great shot.

That's why I had him just between the two

 

[Ballhawk]

I would change Possible in that second line to Should. And change the third line to Probable!

 

[Turducken]

I agree that this season put him on the map as a HOF contender. That said, I think he needs to have another 4-5 years at a high level and get to 10,000 receiving (he's currently at 5,500) to put him in the "lock" category. As long as he stays healthy, I think he's got a great shot.

Kupp has one pro bowl season out of his five (2021). At this point Todd Gurley has a better hof argument than Kupp (and barring a miracle comeback Gurley won't reach canton). If Kupp finishes with 10k+ yards and at least two more pro bowl seasons, then he enters the conversation (kinda like Warner did, but still not a lock). I'd bet on him getting there eventually.

 

[IE Rams]

The 1999 Rams Championship team has produced five HOFs (Orlando Pace, Kurt Warner, Marshall Faulk, Isaac Bruce and Dick Vermiel). It will likely add a sixth when Torry Holt finally gets called to Canton.

How many HOFs will the 2021 team produce?

Locks: Aaron Donald, Von Miller
Possible: Andrew Whitworth, Eric Weddle, Matthew Stafford
On their way, but still more to do: Cooper Kupp, Sean McVay
Longshot, but not impossible: Johnny Hekker, Odell Beckham, Jr.

The Rams will continue to be well represented!

Ramsey belongs on that list somewhere.

 

[AvengerRam]

Ramsey belongs on that list somewhere.

I wouldn't have thought that senility would come to me so early in life...

Of course, you're right. He's definitely on his way. I've added him to the list!

 

[RamsOfCastamere]

I wouldn't have thought that senility would come to me so early in life...

Of course, you're right. He's definitely on his way. I've added him to the list!

The order of your lists confuses me. Is on their way the 2nd rank? I think Ramsey is already a lock. 5 Pro Bowls, 3 1st team All-Pros, SB champ.

 

[AvengerRam]

The order of your lists confuses me. Is on their way the 2nd rank? I think Ramsey is already a lock. 5 Pro Bowls, 3 1st team All-Pros, SB champ.

Not necessarily a rank. To me, "on their way" means that the player/coach has been playing/coaching at a HOF level, but still needs to play/coach a few more years to get there. Ramsey is 6 years in and 27 years old. If he retired today, I don't think he'd make it. If he continues to play at a high level for another 3-4 years, he's got a great chance.

 

[IE Rams]

I wouldn't have thought that senility would come to me so early in life...

Of course, you're right. He's definitely on his way. I've added him to the list!

No worries. I guarantee I have more of those moments than you.

 

[Mackeyser]

If KUPP gets 10k yards, he’s in.

Super Bowl Champ and MVP, Triple Crown winner and has the most yards in a season including playoffs by like 450 yards. That may never be broken

 

[IE Rams]

If KUPP gets 10k yards, he’s in.

Super Bowl Champ and MVP, Triple Crown winner and has the most yards in a season including playoffs by like 450 yards. That may never be broken

By any player not named Cooper Kupp

 

[Jorgeh0605]

Whitworth - should be a lock unless somebody knows something I don't about LTs getting snubbed from the HoF.

McVay - has done enough already I think. Won a superbowl, been to two, and produce quite the coaching tree. He's left an imprint on this game.

Hekker - deservers to be a lock, but I get it, no love for punters in Football so maybe HoF eludes him.

Ramsey and Kupp - Both these guys are Future HoFers. You know it, I know it. They just need to stay in the league a bit longer for it to be openly accepted.

Stafford - I think stafford gets in if he retired tomorrow. But I'lll admit that my opinion is a controversial one. Couple more years of McVay offense gets this guy into the Superbowl. He's got the numbers already, he just needs to rub any remaining Lions stink off of him.


I don't think Weddle makes it in, and OBJ only makes it in if we run it back.

 

[thirteen28]

Stafford - I think stafford gets in if he retired tomorrow. But I'lll admit that my opinion is a controversial one. Couple more years of McVay offense gets this guy into the Superbowl. He's got the numbers already, he just needs to rub any remaining Lions stink off of him.

I would put him in after what he did this year. He already had great numbers in all of his years in Detroit with a crappy team. His first year with a good team he goes all the way, including a playoff run where he had three, epic, game winning drives, including the one in the Super Bowl. His playoff performance was legendary, and I think the fact that he won it all in his first year on a good team vindicates all of this years in Detroit where they didn't win despite his efforts.

 

[Jorgeh0605]

I would put him in after what he did this year. He already had great numbers in all of his years in Detroit with a crappy team. His first year with a good team he goes all the way, including a playoff run where he had three, epic, game winning drives, including the one in the Super Bowl. His playoff performance was legendary, and I think the fact that he won it all in his first year on a good team vindicates all of this years in Detroit where they didn't win despite his efforts.

I agree, i don’t think enough other people would agree though.

 

[thirteen28]

I agree, i don’t think enough other people would agree though.

Those other people are wrong. We are right.

 

[HitStick]

Big Whit is more of a lock than Miller imo. With that said, Miller is still a lock.