Got to say it: McVay pissed me off

[GoodBadUgly]

I'm not one of the biggest Goff supporters, and have been rebuked by many who think I am too tough on him. I have posted many times how thankful I am that we have coach McVay leading the way for what I hope to be the next 10 years+.

With all that in mind, I don't understand for the life of me why McVay has been so protective of Goff when he clearly wasn't producing earlier, only to downplay what a gutsy performance he had this weekend. McVay just says his play was "nice" and that he's our QB "right now".

WTF?

I hope it's just he's such a young coach and still learning, and that this is just a result of his bubbling over with complaints he's kept inside coupled with the reality of the season ending, that brought it to the surface. But the timing of it really got to me.

Goff's last two games were really bright spots for him this season, and made me think there is hope for a huge rebound when he's fully healed up. Against GB, the only play I saw all game that I thought he should have done something differently with the ball was an incomplete pass to a well-covered Everett when Akers was wide open out of the backfield with nobody but a blocker in front. He didn't even look at him. But that was it. I thought he played GREAT otherwise.

Get the dude some OL and a Diggs type WR1 and let's see what this brings us, instead of giving up more draft capital, rolling the dice and dealing with more dead money.

 

[Merlin]

I think Goff has been treated pretty well by McVay given his overall performance. He could have been benched and would have by other coaches well before that Seattle playoff game. Do you think the QB has been wronged when he put up a bottom third passer rating for a divisional level playoff team?

C'mon man. This offense stunk this season. We're not the Fisher Rams this organization has expectations now.

 

[TexasRam]

Mcvay is a solid coach.

But I would like to hear Mcvay come out and acknowledge the fact that they have to surround Goff with better blocking up front. It’s real shitty what he’s doing with Goff in my book.

If I was Goff I would ask for a trade if I don’t get a clear commitment to upgrading the center spot. He’s dealt with free rushers unblocked all year and shouldered blame like a leader and then his head coach stabs him in the back.

Goff puts the Rams in the Super Bowl with no Kupp, a gimpy Gurley and then he plays back to back gutsy playoff games with injuries to key starters and clearly zero time to setup in a pocket and Mcvay says he’s our QB “right now”.

F you bro. Upgrade the Oline and stop with the 3rd WR in RD 2 bullshit when we don’t even have a competent starting center or backup guard. Not to mention dealing with the Noteboom guard experiment which was an utter failure.

Stats mean jack shit when you have no pass protection. Green Bay has 4 Pro Bowl lineman and the Rams have 1 past pro bowler 3 jags and 1 backup, it’s not going to cut it.

 

[payote75]

He was all gung ho amped up because as a young coach he had extreme success but as he gain experience knowledge and see everything going on around him we need to realize that every great head coach wants his own guy put his own stamp on a team. He inherited goff and might just be at the end of the line. If he was a long time coach I'd be more pissed that he was on board from what we know about extending goff that said maybe now he knows better. He is no longer a newbie. He wants his guy. The only other explaination I could think of is he wants to motivate goff and create urgency. That's all I got. To make the line special you need to get lucky drafting and add a Trent Williams a scherff a half washed up Alex Mack that would take a lot of money and a Jon Ross type. Ideally gallowday but that's a pipe dream.

 

[jrry32]

I don't have an issue with him challenging Goff. Barring some miracle trade, I expect Goff will rise to the challenge, especially if we give him better blocking up front.

 

[Merlin]

Mcvay is a solid coach.

This is just really funny man. Your loss of perspective on this I think is so bad that it's just crazy.

It's almost cult-like or something.

 

[RamsFanCK]

Look! Another Goff Thread!



all jokes aside, yes, I agree with @JackAttack85 Seems like a shit time to throw a guy under a bus after two super gutsy games in the playoffs. Hopefully he has a good reason. We are all just guessing at this point anyway

 

[Bearrister]

I read this as McVay’s mentally moved on from Goff. You’re right, it’s odd timing to get critical or lukewarm about your QB given his last 2 gutsy performances. There were plenty of other times earlier in the year when this attitude would’ve made sense. The fact that he can’t even publicly feign the “rah-rah” attitude of the past speaks volumes.

 

[Gandalf]

I agree with you. A good leader doesn't throw his players under the bus in front of the national media. If you have a player that you aren't happy with handle the situation in house behind closed doors. Airing your dirty laundry in front of a bunch of blood sucking media people isn't a good look. Classy organizations don't piss on each other in public.

Evaluate your employees and put them in situations that best fit their strengths, if the situation doesn't get better after a year, a lot of the blame needs to be placed on the man in charge. If you keep doing the same thing week after week and it doesn't work adapt and make changes. Don't keep doing the same thing and scapegoat your player when it doesn't work. If you feel your player isn't putting in the work to be successful, it's your job to kick him in the ass and get him up to snuff.

When the team had a good line everybody thrived, you went to the super bowl and your QB went to the pro bowl. Surely the brain trust is smart enough to see the problem, yet they never do anything about it.

 

[matt30]

Meh. I think he's just an honest guy and he knows that the building (coaching staff, management, ect.) are exploring their options at QB. There's nothing really tactical about it. I'm sure he doesn't want to appear to be blowing smoke up someone's ass when it isn't true.

If they can find someone that can keep us going to the playoffs, great! But I'm only going to be upset if we spend a lot of time and energy on this and things don't improve.

 

[kurtfaulk]

This is just really funny man. Your loss of perspective on this I think is so bad that it's just crazy.

It's almost cult-like or something.

well apart from attacking the coach, he wasn't wrong.

goff is a pocket passer and he hasn't seen a pocket for 2 years. he can't function without one, no pocket passer can.

i can't see how goff is on the team next season when the hc said that about him. like i said before the rams trading him could be the best thing for goff's career. he needs to escape from mcvay's shadow.

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[XXXIVwin]

McVay offered less than effusive praise for Goff. But was Goff “stabbed in the back” or “thrown under the bus”? No.

 

[CGI_Ram]

We keep saying McVay inherited Goff... while true, he decided to EXTEND him. If Goff wasn’t his guy, shouldn’t he have decided that before?

If I’m the owner... I’m wondering why I keep extending players contracts to decide just a season or two later they don’t fit.

Gurley, Cooks, Goff? Really?

 

[TexasRam]

well apart from attacking the coach, he wasn't wrong.

goff is a pocket passer and he hasn't seen a pocket for 2 years. he can't function without one, no pocket passer can.

i can't see how goff is on the team next season when the hc said that about him. like i said before the rams trading him could be the best thing for goff's career. he needs to escape from mcvay's shadow.

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Exactly.

We need to cut the bullshit.

Facts are facts. Mcvay screwed up by betting on Blythe and Noteboom. At a minimum he trusted Kromers
Decision and was just dead wrong.

He’s a young coach and the inability to prioritize the Oline shows his inexperience. He fails to acknowledge
That his 30 ppg offense was nothing without the blockers up front combined with Goffs execution of the offense.

That is exactly what the reality is. He has a QB that can execute at the highest level with a competent Oline, but a coach who hasn’t said a word about the Oline and deflected blame from his own bad decision. And now he’s insinuating the QB might be a problem and will be evaluated. Give me a break. That’s poor leadership and personal accountability.

Imagine if someone asked me if my wife was my wife and I responded “right now yes”. And then I had time to hear the backlash from everyone and how they interpreted my statement. Then when asked again I said well I am evaluating every family member.

Imagine this happening after my wife was busting her ass picking up my laundry and cleaning my messes every week.

Thats some disrespectful shit.

If my wife divorced me on the spot and took half my money I deserved it.

And no, this don’t mean I don’t think Mcvay is a great coach. His record speaks for itself. But he did screw the pooch with the Oline and everyone can see it.

2 years ago Rodgers was on the 10-6 team sitting at home watching the high flying Rams lead by Goff.

Rodgers didn’t all of a sudden remember how to play QB and Goff suddenly forget. Watch the dam game. One team rebuilt their Oline. The other team neglected it and started believing their own Genius scheme would carry them.

Martz believed in his scheme so much that he thought even Marc Bulger could lead the Rams to the Super Bowl. Warner got blamed and was run out of town. The joke was on Martz, Warner who was disrespected was the one leading a team to a Super Bowl in a totally different “System”.

 

[Ramlock]

This is just really funny man. Your loss of perspective on this I think is so bad that it's just crazy.

It's almost cult-like or something.

Don’t make it about the poster...

 

[ottoman89]

I'm not sure why Goff is so babied and protected. McVay offered him outside on how he did the last 2 games. During the season when Goff was fumbling, throwing awful picks, having time in the pocket and missing easy throws, McVay never ridiculed him.

Goff had plenty of time to throw some plays, and not enough time on other plays like a majority of NFL QBs. Not many QBs have a line like Rodgers did on Saturday where you have more than enough time to throw.

At some point you have to blame not just the Ol, but Goff too. He took plenty of awful sacks, threw plenty of awful picks and fumbled. The reality is that if it wasn't for his contract, he'd be gone after this season.

Before I get attacked, I know the OL needs work and a deep threat needs to be had. But let's not sit here and act like the OL was the worst in the league, and he doesn't have weapons around him. At some point, he has to have a feel for maneuvering around and making a play off schedule.

 

[PhillyRam]

I don't have an issue with him challenging Goff. Barring some miracle trade, I expect Goff will rise to the challenge, especially if we give him better blocking up front.

Agree... I think McVay knows inconsistency was a big issue this year and not just from Goff. A more consistent team and they are at least the 5 seed and playing in NO today or the 2 or 3 seed and possibly playing at home for a game or two.

Probably he got feedback from his exit interviews with guys like Ramsey where they discussed the need for everyone to be pushed including the QB. So he agrees and is pushing that narrative to light a fire under Goff and everyone else.

Probably sees the focus Goff put into the last few weeks here and thinks he could have and should have matched that all year.

Just my take. They really cant do anything at QB in 21' anyway, so making his last push to get Goff to be more consistent so they don't have to pull the plug... So some tough love.

That's my optimistic take on all this.

 

[FrantikRam]

This shows growth I think on McVays part.

We all know there's a possibility that one of three things occur:

1. Goff gets traded
2. We draft a QB high
3. Goff isn't starting next year

These might be 20% chances or lower - but better that McVay be honest bow instead of saying "Goff's our QB' a month before we all get the "BREAKING NEWS..."



Was the OL perfect? No.

But let's ask ourselves this: if we had gotten home field and the first round bye, would we still be playing right now? Yes. Why didn't we get a first round bye? All we needed were three games...

Jets - bad INT, not the OL or WR fault
Niners - 3 turnovers from Goff - one under no pressure, one trying to run, one thrown straight to a DL
Dolphins game which we all remember

McVay is the boss and if he wants to, he can decide that Goff committed unforced errors in these games. Unforced is key because while every player will make mistakes because the other guys get paid, there is no excuse for the INTs against the Jets and Seahawks.

So for as average as some of our units were, if our QB was average at turning the ball over, we likely get home field this year and are in the NFCCG

 

[Angry Ram]

I guess yall missed the part where he mentioned he had confidence in the team, and again reiterating of him coming back after surgery is a real testament to his competitiveness and resilience.

 

[dang]

I wouldn’t play with fire. I would strengthen the OL and see if we can find a big physical strong handed WR (I won’t say #1) WR. Keep committing to the run game. Then see how that helps the offense. Goff doesn’t need to be elite but he needs to move the ball without turning it over.