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Gordo: Rams hit the jackpot with Barron
• By Jeff Gordon

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/colu...cle_40f4c480-97a0-5301-a331-247bf3a047f5.html

The Rams made a puzzling move before last year’s NFL trade deadline.

General manager Les Snead sent fourth- and sixth-round picks to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for safety Mark Barron.

Skeptics asked many questions about this deal. Why pay a premium for still another safety when the team already had T.J. McDonald and Rodney McLeod?

Why add a safety with middling pass coverage skills to a secondary that struggled to defend deep throws? Why not use those picks to add needed offensive help instead?

One year later that trade looks brilliant. Barron, the seventh pick in the 2012 draft, has become one of the MVPs of an elite NFL defense.

He is a hard-hitting safety-linebacker hybrid who makes plays all over the field. He is a prototype Jeff Fisher defender, a vigorous tackler who hunts footballs and disrupts offenses.

Defensive coordinator Gregg Williams keeps finding new ways to use him, particularly in the absence of weakside linebacker Alec Ogletree.

“To me I’m just playing football,” Barron said after helping lead the Rams to their 27-6 demolition of the 49ers on Sunday at the Edward Jones Dome. “In my mind we’re just playing with three safeties on the field. I just line up in a different area and play it from there. It’s not hard. I just line up and play football.

“As long as I know my responsibilities you can line me up in a lot of different places and I can get the job done.”

A two-play sequence Sunday captured Barron’s essence. First he broke up a deep pass down the left sideline to tight end Vernon Davis, running stride for stride with him.

When the 49ers ran Mike Davis to the right side on the next play, Barron was there, too, knifing into the backfield to dump him for a loss.

“I like to be able to make plays all over the field,” Barron said. “That’s always been pretty much how I like to play the game. I like to be all over the field. With some of the things we’re doing, watch the film, you’ll see me lined up all over the place. That’s just being able to be versatile.”

He didn’t fit into Lovie Smith’s scheme with the Buccaneers, since the “Tampa-2” defense deploys its safeties deep and stresses coverage skills. Barron is best used closer to the line of scrimmage, where he can cream people.

The so-called box safety has fallen out of favor with some coordinators, since many NFL offenses have become pass-happy. But Williams saw Barron as the perfect fit for certain looks he uses to apply pressure.

“I’ve always had a three-safety package,” Williams said after Friday’s practice. “I’ve always had a package where we play a safety like a linebacker, but also have to play him like a safety and sometimes like corner.”

With both McDonald and McLeod performing well this season, Barron was playing about a fourth to a third of the defensive snaps. Despite that limited role he made his share of disruptive plays and earned high praise from Williams.

“I’ve had guys that I’ve had to adapt that package to, to fit them, because we still want to do that three and four safety package at times,” Williams said earlier this season. “With him, it’s almost like playing with another linebacker in there. But, he still does all of the (defensive back) things you want him to do. He’s very, very, very good at what we want. He’s a joy to coach. I really, really, really like the way he plays.”

Williams has compared Barron to two-time Pro Bowl safety Roman Harper, whom he coached in New Orleans, and the late Sean Taylor, who performed brilliantly in Washington.

“There’s some similarities of some of the things I used to do with Sean down and around the line of scrimmage,” Williams said. “I know that that’s somebody that he has looked at, too, and there’s kind of a smile on my face when he and I talk about Sean Taylor.”

When Ogletree suffered a broken ankle against the Arizona Cardinals last month, his injury created a huge defensive void. Ogletree was playing at a Pro Bowl level, perhaps even an All-Pro level.

He was everywhere, harassing quarterbacks, blowing up running plays and swatting down passes in coverage. He was learning to embrace the cerebral side of the game and harness his vast potential.

His injury raised the profile of outside linebacker Akeem Ayers. But the big story has been Barron’s graduation to an every-down role. He plays big enough to stuff the run and runs well enough to cover tight ends.

“I love it. I just want to be on the field,” Barron said Thursday. “That’s what I am used to. Before I got here I was a starter in this league. I’m used to being on the field every snap. That’s what I always want to be. When I got here I just had to make some adjustments and take advantage of the opportunities that I did have when I was on the field.”

So he is safety or a linebacker?

“I’m both,” Barron said. “I’m everything behind the D-line. I’m having fun with it. I just like playing football. I like being on the field. So, I’m good.”

Actually, he is very, very good — and so is the Rams defense. Barron’s aggression has rubbed off on his teammates. They are flying around and punishing their foes.

“Guys are out there having fun, making plays and bringing their energy,” he said. “It’s a momentum thing and it builds confidence too.”

His quiet leadership has helped the unit mature. This defense is playing with more discipline, too.

As a turned out, the Rams got much, much for those fourth- and sixth-round draft picks than many of ever imagined.
 

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I hope the Rams can keep him on the team. There are a lot of free agents to be signed and Barron's star has certainly risen with Ogletree's absence. He will be a hot commodity on the free agent market.

I wonder how well Maurice Alexander is progressing too. Could he fill the role that Barron has been playing if the Rams are outbid for his services? He looked good in limited action with against the Niners. Or is he more of a replacement for TJ?
 

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The Rams made a puzzling move before last year’s NFL trade deadline.

General manager Les Snead sent fourth- and sixth-round picks to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for safety Mark Barron.

Skeptics asked many questions about this deal. Why pay a premium for still another safety when the team already had T.J. McDonald and Rodney McLeod?

Why add a safety with middling pass coverage skills to a secondary that struggled to defend deep throws? Why not use those picks to add needed offensive help instead?

Did Gordon just get promoted to Captain Obvious?

Just because the Rams' move puzzled him he shouldn't assume the move was puzzling. To most, the Rams moved to obtain a very talented player who was mired in a defense that didn't use his skills. The Rams knew what they wanted to do and he fit the plan. Didn't seem very puzzling to me.
 

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Although some of the high profile free agent signings did not work out the trade for Barron and many of the UDRFA's have been amazing under this regime. Lately with all the firings I guess as fans we should realize how fortunate we actually are with a regime that actually has a clue and a head football coach that can motivate and knows the rules as well.

Now would all of us like the offense to improve and be more consistent? Well, obviously yes, but suffice it to say the Rams have one of the best defensive coordinators in the NFL and all of us are hopeful that they can win this game against a very good Minnesota team and keep the arrow trending upward!
 

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Did Gordon just get promoted to Captain Obvious?

Just because the Rams' move puzzled him he shouldn't assume the move was puzzling. To most, the Rams moved to obtain a very talented player who was mired in a defense that didn't use his skills. The Rams knew what they wanted to do and he fit the plan. Didn't seem very puzzling to me.

There were a lot of fans questioning the move too....in particular, the picks given to Tampa to make it.
 

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I wouldn't call a 4th and 6th round pick "a premium"

but we definitely got a premium in return :D
 

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Gordo: Rams hit the jackpot with Barron
• By Jeff Gordon

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/colu...cle_40f4c480-97a0-5301-a331-247bf3a047f5.html

The Rams made a puzzling move before last year’s NFL trade deadline.

General manager Les Snead sent fourth- and sixth-round picks to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for safety Mark Barron.

Skeptics asked many questions about this deal. Why pay a premium for still another safety when the team already had T.J. McDonald and Rodney McLeod?

Why add a safety with middling pass coverage skills to a secondary that struggled to defend deep throws? Why not use those picks to add needed offensive help instead?

One year later that trade looks brilliant. Barron, the seventh pick in the 2012 draft, has become one of the MVPs of an elite NFL defense.

He is a hard-hitting safety-linebacker hybrid who makes plays all over the field. He is a prototype Jeff Fisher defender, a vigorous tackler who hunts footballs and disrupts offenses.

Defensive coordinator Gregg Williams keeps finding new ways to use him, particularly in the absence of weakside linebacker Alec Ogletree.

“To me I’m just playing football,” Barron said after helping lead the Rams to their 27-6 demolition of the 49ers on Sunday at the Edward Jones Dome. “In my mind we’re just playing with three safeties on the field. I just line up in a different area and play it from there. It’s not hard. I just line up and play football.

“As long as I know my responsibilities you can line me up in a lot of different places and I can get the job done.”

A two-play sequence Sunday captured Barron’s essence. First he broke up a deep pass down the left sideline to tight end Vernon Davis, running stride for stride with him.

When the 49ers ran Mike Davis to the right side on the next play, Barron was there, too, knifing into the backfield to dump him for a loss.

“I like to be able to make plays all over the field,” Barron said. “That’s always been pretty much how I like to play the game. I like to be all over the field. With some of the things we’re doing, watch the film, you’ll see me lined up all over the place. That’s just being able to be versatile.”

He didn’t fit into Lovie Smith’s scheme with the Buccaneers, since the “Tampa-2” defense deploys its safeties deep and stresses coverage skills. Barron is best used closer to the line of scrimmage, where he can cream people.

The so-called box safety has fallen out of favor with some coordinators, since many NFL offenses have become pass-happy. But Williams saw Barron as the perfect fit for certain looks he uses to apply pressure.

“I’ve always had a three-safety package,” Williams said after Friday’s practice. “I’ve always had a package where we play a safety like a linebacker, but also have to play him like a safety and sometimes like corner.”

With both McDonald and McLeod performing well this season, Barron was playing about a fourth to a third of the defensive snaps. Despite that limited role he made his share of disruptive plays and earned high praise from Williams.

“I’ve had guys that I’ve had to adapt that package to, to fit them, because we still want to do that three and four safety package at times,” Williams said earlier this season. “With him, it’s almost like playing with another linebacker in there. But, he still does all of the (defensive back) things you want him to do. He’s very, very, very good at what we want. He’s a joy to coach. I really, really, really like the way he plays.”

Williams has compared Barron to two-time Pro Bowl safety Roman Harper, whom he coached in New Orleans, and the late Sean Taylor, who performed brilliantly in Washington.

“There’s some similarities of some of the things I used to do with Sean down and around the line of scrimmage,” Williams said. “I know that that’s somebody that he has looked at, too, and there’s kind of a smile on my face when he and I talk about Sean Taylor.”

When Ogletree suffered a broken ankle against the Arizona Cardinals last month, his injury created a huge defensive void. Ogletree was playing at a Pro Bowl level, perhaps even an All-Pro level.

He was everywhere, harassing quarterbacks, blowing up running plays and swatting down passes in coverage. He was learning to embrace the cerebral side of the game and harness his vast potential.

His injury raised the profile of outside linebacker Akeem Ayers. But the big story has been Barron’s graduation to an every-down role. He plays big enough to stuff the run and runs well enough to cover tight ends.

“I love it. I just want to be on the field,” Barron said Thursday. “That’s what I am used to. Before I got here I was a starter in this league. I’m used to being on the field every snap. That’s what I always want to be. When I got here I just had to make some adjustments and take advantage of the opportunities that I did have when I was on the field.”

So he is safety or a linebacker?

“I’m both,” Barron said. “I’m everything behind the D-line. I’m having fun with it. I just like playing football. I like being on the field. So, I’m good.”

Actually, he is very, very good — and so is the Rams defense. Barron’s aggression has rubbed off on his teammates. They are flying around and punishing their foes.

“Guys are out there having fun, making plays and bringing their energy,” he said. “It’s a momentum thing and it builds confidence too.”

His quiet leadership has helped the unit mature. This defense is playing with more discipline, too.

As a turned out, the Rams got much, much for those fourth- and sixth-round draft picks than many of ever imagined.
Barron has been a lot of Fun to watch this year! But then again the entire Rams "D" has been Fun to watch!!:D:grouphug:

GO RAMS!!
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I think it's gonna be pretty hard to keep Barron with all the other guys on defense we're gonna want to sign. Additionally, we have Alexander who could graduate into that role... Barron may be a luxury resigning.
 

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The Rams, thanks to Snead, Fisher & Gregg Williams has provided Mark Barron a wonderful opportunity to showcase his OSLB'ing skills in order to secure a very nice pay raise in 2016 as an NFL UFA. Since being drafted Barron was never placed in a position to play to his high level before now. His first season he was a back up to the deep free safety then the following yrs placed in the cover two defense playing further back. Not ever going to be his strong points.

Thus, that's why we were able to trade for him. If I could get into the trio names above ears ....I sure would be an advocate for them to consider Barron as a long term starting OSLB'er for this Ram team. I know Rams have Ayers, JL, Ogletree all signed up for 2016 already......but both Ayers & Ogletree will be UFA's in 2017. Akeem Ayers may be a better RDE or ISLB'er than OSLB'er for this team.

When this season ends the Rams will be looking for pennies off the dirty street floor to sign our own FA's. That JL contract is sure to come under the Kevin Demoff's micro scope when this season ends that is set to pay JL just under 15 million for the 16 & 17 seasons, just over 7 million a yr. Add to the fact Barron can play & back up the strong safety post with the same intensity. Fact is Barron is a bona fide play-maker from many positions & you do not let play-makers just walk off into the sunset.
 

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I think it's gonna be pretty hard to keep Barron with all the other guys on defense we're gonna want to sign. Additionally, we have Alexander who could graduate into that role... Barron may be a luxury resigning.

I have to disagree, WCR.

Barron's play has elevated him into "must keep" status. The Rams will never allow such a playmaker to get away. He's playing at a Pro Bowl level now. Literally. Such players are retained by smart FO's. And Demoff, Snead, and Fisher constitute a smart FO.

The good news is that he may not cost quite an arm and a leg due to his special "hybrid" status. He fits beautifully in GW's schemes, but not so much in some others. In addition, I think he really likes what he sees in the rest of our D and sees our team trajectory as a positive in resigning.
 

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I think it's gonna be pretty hard to keep Barron with all the other guys on defense we're gonna want to sign. Additionally, we have Alexander who could graduate into that role... Barron may be a luxury resigning.

If Barron leaves the Rams in FA he is an idiot. This is a perfect fit for him. Under Greg Williams he can look forward to Pro Bowls and all the accolades that mean more to a player than they might realize while they're chasing those free agent benjamins. How many coordinators would use him correctly over the course of a big contract he might sign? Not many, and then you just don't know which regimes might see changeover. Great DCs get HC jobs or get axed when new regimes come in, I mean look at Denver's DC and how he's jumped all over hell and creation in spite of the fact the dude is great at what he does. Williams, meanwhile, represents a perfect time and place for a player like Barron.

My suggestion to Barron: sign with the Rams even if you leave a little cash on the table brother, and you can thank me later.
 

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If in February of next year it was down to where the Rams could only sign either free deep safety Rod McLeod or OLB'er/SS Mark Barron where do you put your cap investment into?

Snead has Strong Safety types piled deep & signed on our roster with #1-McDonald #2-Mo Alexander #3 CB Bryant. SS is not a need.

At OLB'er Snead has #1-Ogletree #2-Ayers #3- Bates #4-Lynch #5-Bryce Hager. OSLB'er is not a need.

At Free Safety Snead has issues....top reserve Cody Davis will enter Free Agency too. Do you move SS TJ Mc Donald back to deep safety & let Mo Alexander play SS? Do you move the improving starting CB/Nickle Lamarcus Joyner back to deep safety? Do you try Christian Bryant back @ FS? If the decision is to pay LB/SS Mark Barron now we have an issue @ Free/Deep Safety.
 

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With the salary cap rising yearly I'm pretty sure the Rams can keep whoever they want. Especially with Foles unlikely to reach any of his incentives in his contract.

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Blaine Bishop may be a name many of you Remember from Coach Williams at Tennessee like Roman and Taylor later that Greg Williams has used in this Bandit role. I think Mark Barron has made less Mental mistakes and has executed Williams scheme so well in replacement of Alec Ogletree and HOPE Mo Alexander is another they have plans to run this role. Those 3 tackles and a QB hit in 6 plays were AWESOME by Mo Alexander last week as he tackled the big TE of the 9ers they traded to the Broncos (Davis) twice with such ease and Big hits too.

If we are gonna ask Mark Barron to play this role and tackle big RB's like AP can we Resign him and let him gain at least 15lbs of Muscle weight as long as it does not slow him down and he can be as big in weight as Ogletree . I see them playing together in this years Playoff game and want to add REGGIE RAGLAND (MLB BAMA) (MY PERSONAL FAVORITE) as one of our top 4 draft picks to be Captain JL's Future replacement , as he already calls all the "D's" assignments and is the size youth and abilities this "D" Needs to be ELITE along with another Top DE pick with WR/TE being Top Needs.

I think Barron playing at 213lbs is just kinda light to have the NFL season Endurance with as many tackles he is making gonna wear him down? I believe Mo Alexander has more weight already. Maybe Mo is just meant to back up Tim McDonald who is playing at a Pro Bowl level but now has a (FOOT) injury. Wish I new how bad and what it is.

You guys watch Bama & LSU tonight and see if #19 Reggie Ragland impresses you as he could easily slide to our pick with two other Big name MLB's From UCLA & Arizona are more talked about and not as well rounded as Ragland can play DE, cover in passing, Blitz, or stand up the RB or Fullback. Not superfast speed , but better than most. Plus he's very smart in reading "O's".



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If in February of next year it was down to where the Rams could only sign either free deep safety Rod McLeod or OLB'er/SS Mark Barron where do you put your cap investment into?

Snead has Strong Safety types piled deep & signed on our roster with #1-McDonald #2-Mo Alexander #3 CB Bryant. SS is not a need.

At OLB'er Snead has #1-Ogletree #2-Ayers #3- Bates #4-Lynch #5-Bryce Hager. OSLB'er is not a need.

At Free Safety Snead has issues....top reserve Cody Davis will enter Free Agency too. Do you move SS TJ Mc Donald back to deep safety & let Mo Alexander play SS? Do you move the improving starting CB/Nickle Lamarcus Joyner back to deep safety? Do you try Christian Bryant back @ FS? If the decision is to pay LB/SS Mark Barron now we have an issue @ Free/Deep Safety.


Bonifay we have to cut the 14/15 Million of Chris Long and let Saffold, Cook go and we sign JJ,McLeod,Barron and Hayes as our biggest needs and I even think we can get TJ back also. We signed Brockers 5th year already so he is not part of this. Thats a ton of money cleared and If needed we just might move on after the draft from someone I won't mention that will save us some money. If he completes this season like the level he is playing at now he will be kept but asked to spread out his small salary to stay & sign TJ.

With E. J. Gaines back Some have said if McLeod went down that TJ could fill in that spot. You decide. Not my idea. Ayers won't be back . Marquez (WR) is one tackle short of him. Bates Lynch & Hager may be in a competition next season after growth. Don't you love our depth? Hate all the injuries now BUT LOOK HOW FAST AND HOW MANY HAPPEN SO FAST. It will challenge your team depth building for a Playoff run.
 

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Skeptics asked many questions about this deal. Why pay a premium for still another safety when the team already had T.J. McDonald and Rodney McLeod?
Because Rodney is a FA after this season...and possibly may not be re-signed...Part of the task as a GM is to prepare for the future....And like someone said, a 4th and 6th round pick is NOT a premium....

I wonder how well Maurice Alexander is progressing too. Could he fill the role that Barron has been playing if the Rams are outbid for his services? He looked good in limited action with against the Niners. Or is he more of a replacement for TJ?
Good question......From the looks of things, he looks excellent on the field in limited duty....But the 9ers offense is a shambles...Hope he gets in the game vs Cinci....

Fact is Barron is a bona fide play-maker from many positions & you do not let play-makers just walk off into the sunset.
Yeah....I'd be surprised if he hasn't moved into the must keep range, right behind Jenkins....

Do you move SS TJ Mc Donald back to deep safety & let Mo Alexander play SS?
I'll answer this as simply as I can Boni....HELL YES!!!!
I think Barron playing at 213lbs is just kinda light to have the NFL season Endurance with as many tackles he is making gonna wear him down?............You guys watch Bama & LSU tonight and see if #19 Reggie Ragland impresses you as he could easily slide to our pick with two other Big name MLB's From UCLA & Arizona are more talked about and not as well rounded as Ragland can play DE, cover in passing, Blitz, or stand up the RB or Fullback.
Can't play a SS at LB for the whole season....but Barron is special....I heard the LB from Notre Dame is something else too...have you seen him Gabes? I sure wanted Stephone Anthony.....Now I want all the good Clemson players....awesome recruiting....Dabo Sweeny!!!!
 

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If in February of next year it was down to where the Rams could only sign either free deep safety Rod McLeod or OLB'er/SS Mark Barron where do you put your cap investment into?

Snead has Strong Safety types piled deep & signed on our roster with #1-McDonald #2-Mo Alexander #3 CB Bryant. SS is not a need.

At OLB'er Snead has #1-Ogletree #2-Ayers #3- Bates #4-Lynch #5-Bryce Hager. OSLB'er is not a need.

At Free Safety Snead has issues....top reserve Cody Davis will enter Free Agency too. Do you move SS TJ Mc Donald back to deep safety & let Mo Alexander play SS? Do you move the improving starting CB/Nickle Lamarcus Joyner back to deep safety? Do you try Christian Bryant back @ FS? If the decision is to pay LB/SS Mark Barron now we have an issue @ Free/Deep Safety.

My answer to your first question is easy, Bonifay.

We have to sign the playmaking, game changing Barron that's playing at a Pro Bowl level.

I kinda hope that we can keep McLeod, too. But Barron is now a "must keep" player. A definite no brainer decision.

Smart teams don't let such rare players get away

As an aside, it's conceivable that the Rams currently have 5 players on D that would deserve Pro Bowl consideration if the voting were held at midseason.

Donald
Quinn (knee has hampered him, but still)
Barron
Jenkins
McDonald

Would have been 6 but for Ogletree's injury.

Pretty damned impressive, if you ask me.
 

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Well, that and the ability to judge running back talent.