Former NFL players die at a faster rate than other professional athletes, study finds

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https://www.statnews.com/2019/05/24/former-nfl-players-die-at-faster-rate-study/


A new study of more than 6,000 former professional athletes found that National Football League players died at a rate that was almost 1.3 times higher than Major League Baseball players. It’s the first to compare mortality rates between two groups of professional athletes; previous studies that compared professional athletes to the general population showed a lower risk of death for football players.

The findings, published Friday in JAMA Network Open, come amid growing concern about head trauma among current and former NFL players and their risk of developing the neurodegenerative disease CTE, or chronic traumatic encephalopathy. The NFL players died of neurodegenerative diseases at a higher rate than MLB players, though both groups of athletes were more likely to die of cardiovascular disease than brain diseases.

“There is so much press and buzz around the neurocognitive stuff, and that was one of the important things to come out of this,” said Marc Weisskopf, an environmental epidemiologist at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health and a study co-author. “But for cardiovascular disease, the number was higher, and since it’s more common, let’s not lose sight of the fact that it’s a very important issue.”

Previous studies looking at mortality rates among NFL players compared them to the general population and found that NFL players tended to fare better. One study from 2012 found that NFL players had overall decreased mortality as well as lower cardiovascular mortality than the general population. Another paper that year also found that overall mortality in NFL players was reduced, but did find that they had rates of neurodegenerative mortality that were three times higher than the general population.

But the limitation with these and other previous studies that compared professional athletes to the general population, experts say, is that they contained a “healthy worker bias.” Employed people already tend to be healthier than the unemployed, but as professional athletes, this effect is likely to be enhanced when it comes to NFL players versus the general population, explained Kathleen Bachynski, a public health and sports safety researcher at NYU Langone Medical Center.

“That can muddy things up,” she said.

With the new study, there’s a more apples-to-apples comparison — two kinds of elite athletes — helping to eliminate such a bias.

“I think that’s kind of the crux of why they chose to go with another comparable, elite, athlete group,” Bachynski said.

Researchers looked at data from the NFL cohort, which was a database constructed by the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health in the ’90s and contains information on former players who participated in at least five seasons between 1959 and 1988. Weisskopf and colleagues then generated a comparable dataset for former MLB players. By then matching the 3,419 NFL players and the 2,708 MLB players to the National Death Index — which contains records and causes of deaths of U.S. citizens — the researchers compared mortality rates between the two groups.

The new work found that NFL players were about 2.5 times more likely to die from cardiovascular disease and almost three times more likely than MLB players to die from neurodegenerative disease.

“That ‘three times more likely’ sounds dramatic, but we have to think in terms of absolutes,” Weisskopf said.

“Obviously we want to eliminate any difference, but it’s important to keep in mind that that is a small number,” Weisskopf said of the deaths from neurodegenerative disease.

Among the NFL players in the study, far more died of cardiovascular disease than neurodegenerative disease: nearly 500 versus 39, respectively.

“Cardiovascular issues are things we know we can do something about,” Weisskopf said. “If that message isn’t getting out there, we want to make sure people can get that.”

In a statement, an NFL spokesperson said: “The NFL and NFL [Players Association] have a long-standing and on-going commitment to provide current and former NFL players resources for their health and well-being on and off-the-field to achieve physical and emotional wellness.”

Neither organization funded this study, although many of the authors have received funding from the groups for other work.

“It is a sobering message,” said Dr. Dermot Phelan, a sports cardiologist at the Cleveland Clinic who consults with the NFLPA and helps with its events that screen prospective NFL players. “It does highlight the fact that we need to be extra vigilant and players need to participate in more of these [screening] facilities.”

But what may be driving these disparities is still a mystery and more research is needed to tease out the reasons. Fundamental differences between the two sports may only partially explain some of the findings.

NFL players often weigh more than MLB players, for instance, and are even incentivized to bulk up to handle the high levels of contact. But excess weight is also associated with a heightened risk of cardiovascular disease.

Even if differences in the games could explain the findings, it’s unclear whether they are relevant to today’s players.

“The cohort is from an older generation and all of these changes may have nothing to do with playing in the NFL or playing in the MLB,” Phelan said.

NFL rules have also changed in recent years to promote safety: Certain types of blocks and tackles are not allowed, for instance, and there are now penalties for head-to-head contact on the field.

“‘Monday Night Football’ in the ’90s used to show ads that showed two helmets crashing together,” Bachynski said. “It’s really only recently we’re saying, ‘Maybe we shouldn’t celebrate that.’”

Still, “it’s all part of a life in football,” said Dr. Ross Zafonte, a physical medicine and rehabilitation specialist at Spaulding Rehabilitation Hospital in Boston and a co-author of the new study. “It’s a life in this sport and perhaps we can do something by changing how people exit [the sport].” If you no longer actively play, for instance, but continue to train aerobically and eat right, he said, “it is possible that we could affect that [risk] and affect it pretty significantly.”
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They downplay it to some extent, I think. The average player now is bigger, stronger, and faster than most of the players in the study - the most recent ones played 5 years before 1988, and most were much further back. Players have gotten much larger since 1988 - for instance, all-time great Anthony Munoz was listed at 278 pounds - I can't think of an LT close to that weight nowadays. The collisions for years were harder than back in the old days.
 

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Yeah but the suicide rate for curling players is still triple the NFL natural death rate.
 

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Yeah but the suicide rate for curling players is still triple the NFL natural death rate.

Well, sure. You go to a bar and introduce yourself as a curler, you never get laid.
 

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I'd prefer to see more of an apples to apples study than comparing athletes of one sport to athletes of another. Offensive & defensive linemen go well over 300 lbs. fairly often, where greater trunk weight for increased lerverage becomes necessary, aren't larger bodies more prone to cardiovascular diseases ? Big people tend to consume more calories to maintain weight, are dietary intakes also part of these studies, do we know for certain these players always ate a healthy diet ? Other football positions are likelier to have similar builds and bone structures to baseball players, i'd assume that those lean track, soccer & basketball players who are expected to run for miles during a game or event might have more cardiovascular similarities to say, a CB, S, WR or RB. Seems linemen would really skew a study like this.
At least at the end of the article it was mentioned about the size differences of football players, so hopefully they'll eventually present follow up studies with better comparables, although i'm not sure there are many other sporting activities which invite physical comparison to NFL Linemen. jmo..
 

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What about pro wrestlers with the chair to the head? Those guys drop off at 40 on average.
 

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It's because of the all that damn ice with no skates.
A few years from now after den retires in San Antonio....

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I'd prefer to see more of an apples to apples study than comparing athletes of one sport to athletes of another. Offensive & defensive linemen go well over 300 lbs. fairly often, where greater trunk weight for increased lerverage becomes necessary, aren't larger bodies more prone to cardiovascular diseases ? Big people tend to consume more calories to maintain weight, are dietary intakes also part of these studies, do we know for certain these players always ate a healthy diet ? Other football positions are likelier to have similar builds and bone structures to baseball players, i'd assume that those lean track, soccer & basketball players who are expected to run for miles during a game or event might have more cardiovascular similarities to say, a CB, S, WR or RB. Seems linemen would really skew a study like this.
At least at the end of the article it was mentioned about the size differences of football players, so hopefully they'll eventually present follow up studies with better comparables, although i'm not sure there are many other sporting activities which invite physical comparison to NFL Linemen. jmo..
When I was a college kid and lived in San Diego I worked at a Subway. It was relatively close to the Chargers practice facility.
Shawn Lee the Chargers DT would come in on the regular.
Nice dude.
His normal lunch was a footlong steak and chees, double meat and cheese, a footlong seafood (yes they used to have this, like a crab/whitefish mix), double meat, double cheese, a six inch turkey sandwich, double meat and cheese, three cookies, a bag of chips and a drink. He would sit down and eat it in one sitting. He looked miserable the last third of it. He said he had to eat like that to maintain his weight. Once he came in about 4 after leaving the facility, ate his food and let out a big sigh and told me he had two more meals to eat that day.
He died young.
Seeing some of the ex lineman who stop playing and manage to lose weight and get healthy is good too see. Others I'm sure balloon up to huge weights after their playing days are over.
It's a reality of the business.
Some lineman are going to have a hard time maintaining weight.
Cardiovascular disease, inflammation and the stress of prolonged massive food intake can be profound on the body.
 

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Yeah but the suicide rate for curling players is still triple the NFL natural death rate.

Makes you wonder what the rate is for people WATCHING curling. I know I am way more likely to end it all while viewing a curling match. (or is it a curling game?)
 

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How about a study comparing death rates/ages for NFL players and ex fighters?
Some fighters seem fine and some are obviously damaged.
The point of fighting is the hurt your opponent. When a crowd cheers for a knockout they are watching a guy get brain damage. Not much talk about the fighters however. I find that interesting.
Is some of the attention directed at the NFL is the perception the NFL has bottomless pockets?
The comparisons of NFL players and youth or high school players is absurd.
The evidence of CTE and the slew of actions attributed to it is speculative.
I think some of the changes in youth football are positive and some are negative.
 

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Makes you wonder what the rate is for people WATCHING curling. I know I am way more likely to end it all while viewing a curling match. (or is it a curling game?)

As far as I know it is still illegal to air curling matches on public television. Even the private feeds that were used during interrogation at black sites have apparently been suspended due to violating the Geneva convention.
 

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Well, sure. You go to a bar and introduce yourself as a curler, you never get laid.
Depends upon what you're curling. A pubic hair stylist would get some action. ;)
 
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https://www.statnews.com/2019/05/24/former-nfl-players-die-at-faster-rate-study/


A new study of more than 6,000 former professional athletes found that National Football League players died at a rate that was almost 1.3 times higher than Major League Baseball players. It’s the first to compare mortality rates between two groups of professional athletes; previous studies that compared professional athletes to the general population showed a lower risk of death for football players.

The findings, published Friday in JAMA Network Open, come amid growing concern about head trauma among current and former NFL players and their risk of developing the neurodegenerative disease CTE, or chronic traumatic encephalopathy. The NFL players died of neurodegenerative diseases at a higher rate than MLB players, though both groups of athletes were more likely to die of cardiovascular disease than brain diseases.

“There is so much press and buzz around the neurocognitive stuff, and that was one of the important things to come out of this,” said Marc Weisskopf, an environmental epidemiologist at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health and a study co-author. “But for cardiovascular disease, the number was higher, and since it’s more common, let’s not lose sight of the fact that it’s a very important issue.”

Previous studies looking at mortality rates among NFL players compared them to the general population and found that NFL players tended to fare better. One study from 2012 found that NFL players had overall decreased mortality as well as lower cardiovascular mortality than the general population. Another paper that year also found that overall mortality in NFL players was reduced, but did find that they had rates of neurodegenerative mortality that were three times higher than the general population.

But the limitation with these and other previous studies that compared professional athletes to the general population, experts say, is that they contained a “healthy worker bias.” Employed people already tend to be healthier than the unemployed, but as professional athletes, this effect is likely to be enhanced when it comes to NFL players versus the general population, explained Kathleen Bachynski, a public health and sports safety researcher at NYU Langone Medical Center.

“That can muddy things up,” she said.

With the new study, there’s a more apples-to-apples comparison — two kinds of elite athletes — helping to eliminate such a bias.

“I think that’s kind of the crux of why they chose to go with another comparable, elite, athlete group,” Bachynski said.

Researchers looked at data from the NFL cohort, which was a database constructed by the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health in the ’90s and contains information on former players who participated in at least five seasons between 1959 and 1988. Weisskopf and colleagues then generated a comparable dataset for former MLB players. By then matching the 3,419 NFL players and the 2,708 MLB players to the National Death Index — which contains records and causes of deaths of U.S. citizens — the researchers compared mortality rates between the two groups.

The new work found that NFL players were about 2.5 times more likely to die from cardiovascular disease and almost three times more likely than MLB players to die from neurodegenerative disease.

“That ‘three times more likely’ sounds dramatic, but we have to think in terms of absolutes,” Weisskopf said.

“Obviously we want to eliminate any difference, but it’s important to keep in mind that that is a small number,” Weisskopf said of the deaths from neurodegenerative disease.

Among the NFL players in the study, far more died of cardiovascular disease than neurodegenerative disease: nearly 500 versus 39, respectively.

“Cardiovascular issues are things we know we can do something about,” Weisskopf said. “If that message isn’t getting out there, we want to make sure people can get that.”

In a statement, an NFL spokesperson said: “The NFL and NFL [Players Association] have a long-standing and on-going commitment to provide current and former NFL players resources for their health and well-being on and off-the-field to achieve physical and emotional wellness.”

Neither organization funded this study, although many of the authors have received funding from the groups for other work.

“It is a sobering message,” said Dr. Dermot Phelan, a sports cardiologist at the Cleveland Clinic who consults with the NFLPA and helps with its events that screen prospective NFL players. “It does highlight the fact that we need to be extra vigilant and players need to participate in more of these [screening] facilities.”

But what may be driving these disparities is still a mystery and more research is needed to tease out the reasons. Fundamental differences between the two sports may only partially explain some of the findings.

NFL players often weigh more than MLB players, for instance, and are even incentivized to bulk up to handle the high levels of contact. But excess weight is also associated with a heightened risk of cardiovascular disease.

Even if differences in the games could explain the findings, it’s unclear whether they are relevant to today’s players.

“The cohort is from an older generation and all of these changes may have nothing to do with playing in the NFL or playing in the MLB,” Phelan said.

NFL rules have also changed in recent years to promote safety: Certain types of blocks and tackles are not allowed, for instance, and there are now penalties for head-to-head contact on the field.

“‘Monday Night Football’ in the ’90s used to show ads that showed two helmets crashing together,” Bachynski said. “It’s really only recently we’re saying, ‘Maybe we shouldn’t celebrate that.’”

Still, “it’s all part of a life in football,” said Dr. Ross Zafonte, a physical medicine and rehabilitation specialist at Spaulding Rehabilitation Hospital in Boston and a co-author of the new study. “It’s a life in this sport and perhaps we can do something by changing how people exit [the sport].” If you no longer actively play, for instance, but continue to train aerobically and eat right, he said, “it is possible that we could affect that [risk] and affect it pretty significantly.”
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They downplay it to some extent, I think. The average player now is bigger, stronger, and faster than most of the players in the study - the most recent ones played 5 years before 1988, and most were much further back. Players have gotten much larger since 1988 - for instance, all-time great Anthony Munoz was listed at 278 pounds - I can't think of an LT close to that weight nowadays. The collisions for years were harder than back in the old days.
I suspect they don't age well compared to less physically stressful sports.
 

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Depends upon what you're curling.;)

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When I was a college kid and lived in San Diego I worked at a Subway. It was relatively close to the Chargers practice facility.
Shawn Lee the Chargers DT would come in on the regular.
Nice dude.
His normal lunch was a footlong steak and chees, double meat and cheese, a footlong seafood (yes they used to have this, like a crab/whitefish mix), double meat, double cheese, a six inch turkey sandwich, double meat and cheese, three cookies, a bag of chips and a drink. He would sit down and eat it in one sitting. He looked miserable the last third of it. He said he had to eat like that to maintain his weight. Once he came in about 4 after leaving the facility, ate his food and let out a big sigh and told me he had two more meals to eat that day.
He died young.
Seeing some of the ex lineman who stop playing and manage to lose weight and get healthy is good too see. Others I'm sure balloon up to huge weights after their playing days are over.
It's a reality of the business.
Some lineman are going to have a hard time maintaining weight.
Cardiovascular disease, inflammation and the stress of prolonged massive food intake can be profound on the body.

Yeah, 300 lbs isn't natural for most people including elite lineman. We know that because so many have exited the game and lost the weight and look completely different (several have nearly halved their body weight and look like kickers now).

Also, as many are realizing, it's not just the calories, but how they are composed. What's funny is that body builders and strongmen focus SO MUCH on their diets and eating schedule as opposed to most football players.

Just like with CTE, I can see teams investing in significantly more nutritional support for their athletes.

I know if I were an owner, I'd have a full staff of nutritionists on hand to handle the caloric and nutritional needs of every player and coach and FO personnel.

Better nutrition leads to better mind and body and as such, an investment like that could make the difference between struggling and building a dynasty.

And honestly, paying the nutritionists, chefs and buying all the food for around 100 people for the year would maybe be $1M... The returns on such an investment would be stupid good.

To not do it, imho, is penny wise and pound foolish.
 

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Yeah, 300 lbs isn't natural for most people including elite lineman. We know that because so many have exited the game and lost the weight and look completely different (several have nearly halved their body weight and look like kickers now).

Also, as many are realizing, it's not just the calories, but how they are composed. What's funny is that body builders and strongmen focus SO MUCH on their diets and eating schedule as opposed to most football players.

Just like with CTE, I can see teams investing in significantly more nutritional support for their athletes.

I know if I were an owner, I'd have a full staff of nutritionists on hand to handle the caloric and nutritional needs of every player and coach and FO personnel.

Better nutrition leads to better mind and body and as such, an investment like that could make the difference between struggling and building a dynasty.

And honestly, paying the nutritionists, chefs and buying all the food for around 100 people for the year would maybe be $1M... The returns on such an investment would be stupid good.

To not do it, imho, is penny wise and pound foolish.

The Dodgers in 2015 started improving the diets - especially of minor leaguers, but throughout the system, to ensure that their players and especially their prospects were getting highly nutritious foods, at least where teams were allowed to control it (pre and post-game spreads, food on bus rides for prospects, etc.) Too much money is spent on payroll NOT to improve nutrition for any advantage it might give a team.

http://baseballstrength.org/los-angeles-dodgers-nutrition-program/
 

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Yeah, 300 lbs isn't natural for most people including elite lineman. We know that because so many have exited the game and lost the weight and look completely different (several have nearly halved their body weight and look like kickers now).

Also, as many are realizing, it's not just the calories, but how they are composed. What's funny is that body builders and strongmen focus SO MUCH on their diets and eating schedule as opposed to most football players.

Just like with CTE, I can see teams investing in significantly more nutritional support for their athletes.

I know if I were an owner, I'd have a full staff of nutritionists on hand to handle the caloric and nutritional needs of every player and coach and FO personnel.

Better nutrition leads to better mind and body and as such, an investment like that could make the difference between struggling and building a dynasty.

And honestly, paying the nutritionists, chefs and buying all the food for around 100 people for the year would maybe be $1M... The returns on such an investment would be stupid good.

To not do it, imho, is penny wise and pound foolish.
I agree and I would be amazed if most teams don't have this taken care.
Nutrition in relation to training and injury recovery is huge as well.
In the case of Lee I believe they had him listed at 310 or so but he was told they wanted him at least 330 by the start of the season.
I worked with Brett F. former Rams LB around the same time. This was at a recording studio. He put on a huge amount of weight in one off season after his first Rams camp and the next camp all while remaining shredded.
One can do the math on that.
The message I got in talking to both players is both teams couldn't give an F less about the players health or how they put weight/strength on. Just do it or see ya.