Fisher - What I Will Miss, and Concerns

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OK, so the masses have been heard and Fisher has been forced out. This is not a debate on whether or not this should happened, this is merely a take on what I'm concerned about now that we are moving on without him.

1) Special Teams. Yes Fassel coaches these guys. But one cannot argue that ST superiority is on par with, if not above, the ground and pound philosophy for Fisher. Fassel was the perfect guy to run JF's vision here. Were they perfect? No. Too many BS penalties on returns. But the threat of fakes has played a big part in Hekker's domination, don't kid yourself. I would hate to take a step back here, as many coaches view this third squad as an afterthought.

CRAZY NOTE: I actually think they didn't fake enough. When they faked this year, they picked the single worst time to do it. Although the THREAT definitely yielded dividends, I actually would have loved to see HS QB Hekker throw more. Why not come out in punt formation on third and long? We never converted anyway. This could have given JH the option of throwing or punting. Even throwing it away would be fine. Just punt on 4th. Anyway, I digress..

2) Professionalism. Towards the end, the stress clearly got to JF and I bet he'd take back a few of his recent actions, but along the way he took a JOKE of a front-office and mismanaged Ram team and replaced it with credibility. We started to beat the Seahawks for a change. We weren't concerned about the equipment guy getting fired for no reason. I actually enjoyed listening to his weekly Jeff Fisher show and gained insight into some of the behind the scenes nuances that I missed during Sunday's game. I hope the new guy brings at least this to the table.

3) Defense. It's one thing to claim you are a defense minded coach. JF proved this from his playing days to his DC selection, to his draft capital. This is a good defense. We'd be reaping the proper rewards if we weren't such a fustercluck on offense. Even the GSoT was able to do what they did because they had a good (way underrated) defense. After beating the Titans, remember what happened the next season? Our D was horrible, and it no longer mattered what miracles our offense could pull off or how many points they could put on the board, we couldn't win many. Then we went and got Lovey to fix things. I'd like to think the new guy isn't a O first, F the D kind of pick.

Excited to see what comes next.

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So, I think what you are describing is "2/3rds of a HC".

The reason he is gone, I suppose.

Let's get a complete HC... one that sees the big picture and manages all three facets of the team.
 

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Good read JackAttack85.

Agree Fassel is a keeper.Agree on the fakes.If anything I think with Hekker
we could really push the envelope .check that .revolutionize the fake game.
Fisher,whether you loved him or hated him
handled the situation with as much class as anyone could, given the circumstances.Can't take that away from him no matter which side of the fence you stood.
 

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I'm gonna miss his personality. One of the coolest MFing coaches around and I pulled for him to succeed like crazy. But this year was the breaking point and the way Stan handled the past five years is one of the reasons the Rams are THE job.

WRT Jeff I'm just incredibly disappointed, because my hope when he was hired was that he'd show what he could do without a front office working against him like in Tenn. Still think his OC hires did him in too. But whatever, onward and upward.
 

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The HC doesn't have to be (it could be argued that he shouldn't be) more concerned with either side of the ball...He should be the guy who has the right people as coordinators...That was the real downfall of Jeff Fisher...He spent too much energy on one side...O and D people are in place for one thing, to manage the people they're responsible for...They need to have the autonomy to do what they were hired for...
 

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The HC doesn't have to be (it could be argued that he shouldn't be) more concerned with either side of the ball...He should be the guy who has the right people as coordinators...That was the real downfall of Jeff Fisher...He spent too much energy on one side...O and D people are in place for one thing, to manage the people they're responsible for...They need to have the autonomy to do what they were hired for...

This makes sense on paper but in practice is unrealistic. When you're in the room and the coaches you brought in are given the 'autonomy to do what they were hired for', and they all want THEIR guy, you really going to punt to the GM and say 'He's the personnel guy'? Most guys go the 'I need to pick the ingredients to cook the meal' route. So in the end, it truly DOES matter what the HC feels are focal points.

Even the best teams have holes. The Hawks just let their high priced OL go, and make do. The fan base knows this is an issue but understands they have to make tough choices to keep the guys best for their system. Carroll doesn't just delegate, on this you can bet the house.
 

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I wont miss anything about our last coach.

I'm concerned who our next coach will be.

It really is that simple to me.
 

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Read this and thought, well, so could I when I was younger...Then suddenly I realized that what he was talking about and what I was thinking about, were not the same thing..Oops, my bad...

Jim Fassel is proud of John in part because he keeps himself in great physical shape. He can sustain plenty of all-nighters, which will serve him well over the final three weeks of the regular season as the Rams' interim head coach..
 

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The physicality.

I loved the way at times during his tenure that this team didn't only beat other teams, but beat them up. The Broncos game in 2014 was a textbook example of this. They didn't merely win the game, they dragged the Broncos into the back ally and pummeled the ever-loving dogsh!t out of them, leaving them bruised, bloodied, and battered.

In another game earlier that year, TJ laid out Mike Evans at TB to cause a 10 second run off that ended the game. Lots of big hits.

The Rams lost more than they won during his tenure, but they were never bullied.

Wish there was a way they could retain that mentality.
 
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