Did Baker Mayfield audible to a draw on fourth and nine?

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Did Baker Mayfield audible to a draw on fourth and nine?

Good coaches protect their players. Browns coach Freddie Kitchens apparently provided a safety net for quarterback Baker Mayfield after Sunday night’s loss to the Rams.

As explained by Chris Simms earlier this week on his Unbuttoned podcast, the much-criticized decision to run a draw play on fourth and nine in the fourth quarter possibly was made not by Kitchens but by Mayfield.

Simms spotted the evidence while studying the game film.

“As soon as the ball’s snapped, Freddie Kitchens looks and just stares at Baker Mayfield. Looks downfield to see the guy got two yards, right? And then looks back at Baker Mayfield like, with the arms out, like, ‘What are you doing?'”

While Kitchens may have been lamenting the execution of the play, the more reasonable interpretation, given the pre-snap activities, seems to be that Mayfield changed whatever play Kitchens had called, dialing up the ill-fated draw play instead.

Simms also thinks it was a bad decision because a draw wasn’t going to work against the specific defensive alignment. Linebackers were present on the side of the defense that the run attacked. The goal in a situation like that is to find a gap in the defense created by efforts to rush the passer.

Since it was an obvious passing situation, the concept made sense. The decision to send a running back where defenders were, not where they weren’t, didn’t.

“Before we all jump on Freddie Kitchens,” Simms said, “I’m pretty sure that Baker Mayfield would be the one to blame on that play.”

If that’s the case, Kitchens surely scored points with his young quarterback for not throwing him under the bus. Some may say that Mayfield should have piped up and taken responsibility for the decision, given the criticism that was being dumped on Kitchens.

Here’s what Mayfield said about the play after the game: “I know what you guys are going to try to do is blame the play calling, but that is why I said execution is the most important thing. Whatever we have called, we have to do our job.”

Then, when Mayfield was asked whether he had anything to add about the play on Wednesday, he said, “No, it was just trusting our guys to make a play.”

Execution aside, responsibility for calling the draw play remains unclear. Whatever the explanation, the play didn’t work. But it makes sense to pay even closer attention to the sausage-making process in Cleveland when key moments arrive. From Kitchens admitting that he’s new at this to the possibility that Mayfield opted to change the play that Kitchens called, decisions like that make the difference between wins and losses and, ultimately, playoffs or no playoffs.
 

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Did Baker Mayfield audible to a draw on fourth and nine?

Good coaches protect their players. Browns coach Freddie Kitchens apparently provided a safety net for quarterback Baker Mayfield after Sunday night’s loss to the Rams.

As explained by Chris Simms earlier this week on his Unbuttoned podcast, the much-criticized decision to run a draw play on fourth and nine in the fourth quarter possibly was made not by Kitchens but by Mayfield.

Simms spotted the evidence while studying the game film.

“As soon as the ball’s snapped, Freddie Kitchens looks and just stares at Baker Mayfield. Looks downfield to see the guy got two yards, right? And then looks back at Baker Mayfield like, with the arms out, like, ‘What are you doing?'”

While Kitchens may have been lamenting the execution of the play, the more reasonable interpretation, given the pre-snap activities, seems to be that Mayfield changed whatever play Kitchens had called, dialing up the ill-fated draw play instead.

Simms also thinks it was a bad decision because a draw wasn’t going to work against the specific defensive alignment. Linebackers were present on the side of the defense that the run attacked. The goal in a situation like that is to find a gap in the defense created by efforts to rush the passer.

Since it was an obvious passing situation, the concept made sense. The decision to send a running back where defenders were, not where they weren’t, didn’t.

“Before we all jump on Freddie Kitchens,” Simms said, “I’m pretty sure that Baker Mayfield would be the one to blame on that play.”

If that’s the case, Kitchens surely scored points with his young quarterback for not throwing him under the bus. Some may say that Mayfield should have piped up and taken responsibility for the decision, given the criticism that was being dumped on Kitchens.

Here’s what Mayfield said about the play after the game: “I know what you guys are going to try to do is blame the play calling, but that is why I said execution is the most important thing. Whatever we have called, we have to do our job.”

Then, when Mayfield was asked whether he had anything to add about the play on Wednesday, he said, “No, it was just trusting our guys to make a play.”

Execution aside, responsibility for calling the draw play remains unclear. Whatever the explanation, the play didn’t work. But it makes sense to pay even closer attention to the sausage-making process in Cleveland when key moments arrive. From Kitchens admitting that he’s new at this to the possibility that Mayfield opted to change the play that Kitchens called, decisions like that make the difference between wins and losses and, ultimately, playoffs or no playoffs.

Not so sure about this, but... Mayfield certainly didn't audible out of it. That was bad enough for the Browns.
 

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Slightly off topic: Is Chris Simms given a microphone because of his dad? I don't see much credibility in anything he says. (Though he could be right in this case)
 

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This is entirely implausible.

Mayfield may be a lot of unlikeable things to the media but he isn't dumb.
 

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Slightly off topic: Is Chris Simms given a microphone because of his dad? I don't see much credibility in anything he says. (Though he could be right in this case)

I don't think he's that bad, but clearly having a famous football dad will open doors not otherwise there. Kind of a regular thing in our world.
 

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This is entirely implausible.

Mayfield may be a lot of unlikeable things to the media but he isn't dumb.
I agree.

I think it's more likely that Kitchens misspoke his play call and it sounded like a draw play call or Baker misheard the call.

The idea that anyone would actually call a 4th and nine with time slipping away and the game on the line... that's hard to imagine.
 

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Simms loves to unearth things he can assassinate young talented QBs with. What's in it for him? Trying to make up for failing to live up to his mediocre pops.

Dude continues to make a name for himself around the league too. Wasn't too long ago he had a twitter sissy slappy fight with Warner. At some point it's gonna backlash on him and hard IMO.
 

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I don't listen to Chris Simms much - especially since he is so adamant on blasting the Rams so regularly - but it seems he prefers to take a strong position without substantiating his point with accurate or compelling information. As a result he looks very foolish when he is wrong. I don't see his credibility being able to survive his many uninformed/errant takes much longer.
 

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Kitchens might be the next Jeff Fisher. Goes 7-9 with plenty of talent but never gets much better. LOL
 

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No way I see Baker calling that play. Besides this is the same coach who didn't call one run inside the 4 ... call that AD fear. Freddie's calls haven't been good all year. Their only win was against the hapless Jets that even the Huskies could beat.

Their team has talent, but they aren't playing as a team. IMO too many prima donnas with Baker leading the pack. If they had a coach that could bring them together they could be a decent team. Cocina (Kitchens) doesn't last the season IMO. Someone has to pay for all those unrealistic expectations.
 

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didn't the panthers call a draw play against the rams in the 2003 playoffs? i think it was 3rd and 15.

and they got the 1st down.

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View: https://twitter.com/Andy_Benoit/status/1177319241533444096


This absolutely happened and actually, shame - SHAME! - on PFT for piggy-backing on Andy Benoit who pointing it out first without giving attribution.

Rookie QBs gonna rookie QB.

Andy Benoit is a gem and while Peter King was good, Benoit blows him away with film study.


That play tells you how worried ppl are about Aaron Donald. The center took too long to go to the second level Bc he just sat there and stared at AD.
 

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I don't listen to Chris Simms much - especially since he is so adamant on blasting the Rams so regularly - but it seems he prefers to take a strong position without substantiating his point with accurate or compelling information. As a result he looks very foolish when he is wrong. I don't see his credibility being able to survive his many uninformed/errant takes much longer.


I can't stand the guy. He's always trying show everyone how smart he is. He's is to analysis what Mike Lombardi was to GMing, and Jason LaConfora was to reporting. How these guys get jobs is puzzling. To think, other more talented applicants got passed over because of these guys connections.



View: https://twitter.com/Andy_Benoit/status/1177319241533444096


This absolutely happened and actually, shame - SHAME! - on PFT for piggy-backing on Andy Benoit who pointing it out first without giving attribution.

Rookie QBs gonna rookie QB.

Andy Benoit is a gem and while Peter King was good, Benoit blows him away with film study.



So, Simms is claiming to have discovered this and likely just read about it. He wreaks of being a spoiled rich brat that was handed everything his whole life. He never learned what it is too really work hard and honestly.
 

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I think the draw was a reasonable call tbh. Browns were struggling in pass pro and were one great read/play by Weddle away from having a chance to convert it.

Things happen in games. Other teams make plays too. There were some plays where the Browns missed opportunities just like the Rams' offense did, but I don't really consider that one of them. It was a situation where the safety made a play.