Two huge IF's! IF, the Raiders end up with a chance to draft Mariota and if they do and IF they also decide to trade Derek Carr would you be interested and how much would you be willing to trade to get him?
Derek Carr?
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Jumava1968
Starter
I think he would be worth a 3rd round pick and I would do it in a heartbeat.He will have a full year in the league and can continue to develop if Bradford stays.This is what we would be looking for in the draft anyway but he comes with some experience.And this covers plan A N B in case Bradford gets hurt again if he stays.
mr.stlouis
Legend
Big Willie
Starter
I know everyone likes to point at the ineptness of the Raiders, but really now.
Only way they trade Carr is for a high pick.
Look at his contract, 4 years 5.5 mill? Cap friendly deal would be perfect as a back up/starter while Mariota or Winston rode the bench even.
Only way they trade Carr is for a high pick.
Look at his contract, 4 years 5.5 mill? Cap friendly deal would be perfect as a back up/starter while Mariota or Winston rode the bench even.
Cullen Bryant
Rookie
I'd gladly give a second for him but even if the raiders drafted Mariota they still wouldn't trade Carr, at least I wouldn't, not this year. I'd want a year to evaluate the situation before I did something I might regret big time.
Sure wish the Rams had not got lucky (or unlucky) on an errant snap in Cleveland and finished 1-15 back in 2011 and thus could have traded Bradford and drafted Andrew Luck. For those who feel they would have not been able to deal Bradford's contract, don't be ridicules the Browns and Redskins would've jumped at the chance....As I digress!
If there are no OL in the first round that Snead and Fisher think are good enough I would trade this years 1st and next years 3rd. Unfortunately the Rams need 3 more OL and I think Carr is worth more then that.
Now if we knew Bradford wound't be able to play next year I would trade this years 1st, 2nd, and 4th for Carr.
Now if we knew Bradford wound't be able to play next year I would trade this years 1st, 2nd, and 4th for Carr.
Cullen Bryant
Rookie
I would trade this years 1st, 2nd, and 4th for Carr.[/QUOTE
You would have to get Tampa Bay's approval for that !
You would have to get Tampa Bay's approval for that !
Carr is better than literally every QB in this year's draft class.
StevenG-BR
Rookie
This same question was asked about Cam Newton in another thread. For Newton, I'd cough up two 1sts in a heartbeat. For Carr? It's hard to say what I'd be willing to part with. He seems to be a talented young QB with a bright future, but it's hard to really say what he'll become based solely on his rookie year.
I'd probably give up our 1st. That, or our 2nd and a conditional 2nd or 3rd in 2016 (depending if he starts 16 games and posts certain numbers, maybe 20 TD's and over 3K yards with under 15 picks). I think it'd be worth the gamble. He's done well on a terrible team, so he should do even better with a nice supporting cast here in STL.
I'd probably give up our 1st. That, or our 2nd and a conditional 2nd or 3rd in 2016 (depending if he starts 16 games and posts certain numbers, maybe 20 TD's and over 3K yards with under 15 picks). I think it'd be worth the gamble. He's done well on a terrible team, so he should do even better with a nice supporting cast here in STL.
StevenG-BR
Rookie
It's just our miserable Ram luck.
The year after Bradford, a stud like Cam Newton is available with the top pick. The next year, Andrew Luck. Had we been in that position a year or two later, we'd have a true star at QB. Now, we're stuck with, you know... him.
I made a thread of this a few weeks back and didn't receive that much fan fair with the common " why would they trade him.......".
First things first never underestimate stupid. Until otherwise proven I would not put it past the Raiders to get rid of him and go with a flashy Mariotta/Winston type of player.
Second, they could get extra picks like we did with the RG3 trade to help further the franchise than just having one player especially if they turn those picks into greater trade equity.
Finally, they are more than likely going to shake up that FO and coaching staff which means that coaches/GM's like having 'their' guy as their QB to guide the ship. Which more and likely could make him expendable.
If we did somehow land Carr it would be great to have Bradford, Hill, and Carr going into the off season and see how things pan out. I'd hope Hill or Carr would start with Bradford making sure his leg is 154% ready down the stretch. (Of course this is with a re structured deal.)
First things first never underestimate stupid. Until otherwise proven I would not put it past the Raiders to get rid of him and go with a flashy Mariotta/Winston type of player.
Second, they could get extra picks like we did with the RG3 trade to help further the franchise than just having one player especially if they turn those picks into greater trade equity.
Finally, they are more than likely going to shake up that FO and coaching staff which means that coaches/GM's like having 'their' guy as their QB to guide the ship. Which more and likely could make him expendable.
If we did somehow land Carr it would be great to have Bradford, Hill, and Carr going into the off season and see how things pan out. I'd hope Hill or Carr would start with Bradford making sure his leg is 154% ready down the stretch. (Of course this is with a re structured deal.)
