Davis Webb, Cal QB

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Has 13 TDs and 3 picks in 3 games and Cal just upset Texas. He looks as good as Goff did last year. He's doing it with all new receivers as well. Makes me vomit thinking Goff is just a gimmick college QB guy.
 
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And North Dakota State just upset Iowa. Any other irrelevant things we should bring up?
 
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Cal's new OC Jake Spavital is a Kingsbury coaching tree graduate. It was a plug and play, very similar system for Webb to move over from TT to Cal.

Kiper had him as his top Senior QB as well. Dude threw for like 46 TDs, big and with a good arm, so it's not a surprise that he fits well there. What is a surprise is the low INT count thus far, but the season's young.
 
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jrry32 said:
And North Dakota State just upset Iowa. Any other irrelevant things we should bring up?
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It's relevant because it's the same program and offense Goff came from, with a bunch of new receivers as all the receivers graduated last year. Cal still can't run the ball consistently or play defense. FWIW, Webb is considered a prospect for the NFL.
 
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SoCalRam78 said:
It's relevant because it's the same program and offense Goff came from, with a bunch of new receivers as all the receivers graduated last year. Cal still can't run the ball consistently or play defense. FWIW, Webb is considered a prospect for the NFL.
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And North Dakota State is the program that Wentz played for. Their success this year, just like Cal's success, is irrelevant.
 
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We'll see how Webb's tangibles evolve as he continues playing. Goff's already proven he has a nice touch in his throws and he has unteachable mechanics such as Peyton Manning feet while still maintaining leverage to make nice NFL throws. It's just a matter of letting that translate to the NFL.
 
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Shocking that a senior transfer with familiarity of the offense would come in and have some success against some bad teams when Cal has been improving. Yet another foolish topic claiming Goff is a bustest before stepping on the field.
 
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After setting records at NC State, Russell Wilson went t Wisconsin and had a great season too.
Webb isn't the first transfer to go somewhere else and play well.
Troy Aikman anyone?
 
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dieterbrock said:
After setting records at NC State, Russell Wilson went t Wisconsin and had a great season too.
Webb isn't the first transfer to go somewhere else and play well.
Troy Aikman anyone?
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Aikman left OU because Switzer went back to the Wishbone after Aikman broke his leg.
Switzer had installed a Pro Style for OU and then dismantled it when his QB went out for the season.
The replacement Jamelle Holieway was an option QB who started for the next couple of years and won a lot of games.
 
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dieterbrock said:
That's why Aaron Rodgers went late too. People thought he was just another Tedford coached up QB
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Took AR some time too.

I am getting more skeptical daily of Spread Air Raid QB's and will be, until SEVERAL have success.

As we are seeing, Air Raid guys need time to learn the Pro Style game.
 
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Ramlock said:
Aikman left OU because Switzer went back to the Wishbone after Aikman broke his leg.
Switzer had installed a Pro Style for OU and then dismantled it when his QB went out for the season.
The replacement Jamelle Holieway was an option QB who started for the next couple of years and won a lot of games.
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Yeah, didn't need the history lesson, the point is that Aikman was a highly recruited QB that was so good, they changed their offense from the wishbone. He was that good. And when he went to UCLA, or wherever he would have went, he was going to be a stud. Now Webb may not have Aikman pedigree but the kid was a stud as a frosh and was going to be a success wherever he went too
NFL missed on Derek Carr because they thought he was a system QB too
 
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Ramlock said:
Took AR some time too.

I am getting more skeptical daily of Spread Air Raid QB's and will be, until SEVERAL have success.

As we are seeing, Air Raid guys need time to learn the Pro Style game.
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It didn't take AR time, we have no idea how well he would have played.
Being skeptical of Air raid is just not logicial as the spread is the common offense in NCAA these days.
Joe Flacco played D1aa from shotgun only in a spread, he did fine. Cam Newton played in a spread where he ran as much as he threw, he's doing great. Its the athlete, not the system that makes it at the next level
 
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dieterbrock said:
It didn't take AR time, we have no idea how well he would have played.
Being skeptical of Air raid is just not logicial as the spread is the common offense in NCAA these days.
Joe Flacco played D1aa from shotgun only in a spread, he did fine. Cam Newton played in a spread where he ran as much as he threw, he's doing great. Its the athlete, not the system that makes it at the next level
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Not sold Dieter

Spread guys struggle

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Ramlock said:
Not sold Dieter

Spread guys struggle

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Not true, but you're free to believe whatever you like
Goff may or may not end up being all that. But its not because of the program he played in.
 
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dieterbrock said:
It didn't take AR time, we have no idea how well he would have played.
Being skeptical of Air raid is just not logicial as the spread is the common offense in NCAA these days.
Joe Flacco played D1aa from shotgun only in a spread, he did fine. Cam Newton played in a spread where he ran as much as he threw, he's doing great. Its the athlete, not the system that makes it at the next level
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I think you're both right. Spread offenses are qb friendly but it's the qb's intangibles and football iq that predict success. And for that reason there is no need to worry about goff yet. He has the skill. If he puts it all together he'll be fine.
 
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And most importantly, don't mess with David Webb
He turned in to Jason Bourne and can kick everyone's azz
Oh wait, wrong guy
 
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