Cooks Drop In Superbowl

[kurtfaulk]

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was just watching this video having a laugh at this guy's thoughts on how the rams have built their team.

this is the first time i've seen the drop at this angle. i've always thought the db hit his arm but it's plain as day here that he didn't touch his arm at all and just connected with his chest.

very disappointing drop.



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[TexasRam]

Dam dude. That’s a dark tale there.

Sometimes you have to cut your losses and that’s what the Rams did.

Trusting your coaching and scouting is the approach they took to some injuries.

The contract narrative on Goff isn’t true when you consider the way it averages out over the length of the rookie contract.

Locking in Core players is important, Donald and Ramsey have us where we are today which is competing at the highest level.

So this dude looks sort of stupid now.

 

[Merlin]

Two plays haunt me from that game... The wide open drop in the endzone (the pass was late but you gotta bring that in), and the other one that was high but catchable. If Cooks brings in just that first one we might be 2018 champs.

The hold on Gurley's nice run too but meh. IMO that game killed Cooks mentally. It stole his mojo to see him fail in the opportunity to hurt the team who traded him because they felt he wasn't worth the money.

 

[Rams8821]

I think Cooks should have caught both of those balls....ah what might have been.

 

[AvengerRam]

The first one I put 1/3 on Goff for being a bit late, and 2/3 on Cooks for not making a more aggressive play on the ball (which would have, at worst, drawn a PI).

The second one was pass interference. The league subsequently confirmed that the no-call was an error. Karma, if you're a Saints fan.

 

[TheTackle]

I would have expected a wide receiver to catch both of those. Neither was particularly difficult. He just didn’t watch the ball into his hands. It was a basic mistake both times. The second was unforgivable

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

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was just watching this video having a laugh at this guy's thoughts on how the rams have built their team.

this is the first time i've seen the drop at this angle. i've always thought the db hit his arm but it's plain as day here that he didn't touch his arm at all and just connected with his chest.

very disappointing drop.



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The DB grabbed Cooks arm and pulled down. Hard to tell if the ball arrived first. Goff missed an easy TD.

 

[tempests]

Cooks had half the Rams yards from scrimmage in that game. He catches those two passes he has close to 200 yards receiving in the Super Bowl. Rams managed 14 first downs and Cooks had six of them. That's how much he did and how little everyone else did. We needed a better game plan and we needed to run the ball effectively from the start.

Rams margin for error was nothing because the offense did nothing but sputter all day.

 

[Mojo Ram]

Cooks had half the Rams yards from scrimmage in that game. He catches those two passes he has close to 200 yards receiving in the Super Bowl. Rams managed 14 first downs and Cooks had six of them. That's how much he did and how little everyone else did. We needed a better game plan and we needed to run the ball effectively from the start.

Rams margin for error was nothing because the offense did nothing but sputter all day.

I don't disagree with any of that but we also needed Kupp.

 

[“Turbo set!”]

Neither were drops. The first one was a good play by the DB.

The second was PI.

 

[jrry32]

I don't disagree with any of that but we also needed Kupp.

The engine of our offense (Gurley) was hobbled, and we were without Kupp. Combine that with McVay having no answer for Belichick and Goff being utterly befuddled, and you have a very long day for Rams fans.

 

[Malibu]

That pass was a double clutcher from Goff it was his fault period Cooks was wide open a second or two earlier.

Cooks had to manuever the back of the end zone as well as wait for the late throw. I live Goff but this was on him.

There was some article on Goff about his double clutching and not trusting his reads. He needs to be able to pull the trigger when he sees what he sees. A half second later and look what happens.

 

[badnews]

That pass was a double clutcher from Goff it was his fault period Cooks was wide open a second or two earlier.

If Isaac Bruce doesn't make a play on a less than perfect pass, the Rams don't win that SB either.

My point is that QBs don't win without guys making plays on less than perfect throws. If the QB has to hit his guys in their hands, in stride deep at just the right moment, then his WRs are not good enough. Good WRs make those plays. They hold on through contact and they come back on under thrown passes and they bail out their QBs by attacking the ball and beating their man.

If we expect the QB to be so good with placement and timing and make it that easy, then I guess his WRs only have to worry about being fast. That sums up Cooks in the SB pretty well I think.
Jared put two balls in the endzone that could have been caught if the reciever makes a play but he didn't.
Thats how I see it anyways.

 

[dieterbrock]

My point is that QBs don't win without guys making plays on less than perfect throws.

Heck yeah to that.
Montana had 3 INT against Dallas and was throwing that ball away, he would have been the goat in that game and possibly not the G.O.A.T. overall but Dwight Clark.....
(Not a missed catch but missed opportunity, same game, AFTER "the Catch", Drew Pearson was free and clear heading for 6 but a lucky horse collar tackle saved the day)
We love the Giants keeping the Pats from 19-0 and then beating them again 4 years later, but not for a miracle catch by Tyree, Manningham's amazing sideliner and Wes Welker's drop, things would be different...
Lynn Swann makes a couple of circus catches, and is in HOF despite a somewhat mediocre career

I liked Cooks, thought he got a bad rap, and was the best offensive player in that game. BUT those were career defining opportunities, he makes one of the two and its possibly a different outcome and who knows what career trajectory change may have been made

 

[badnews]

Heck yeah to that.
Montana had 3 INT against Dallas and was throwing that ball away, he would have been the goat in that game and possibly not the G.O.A.T. overall but Dwight Clark.....
(Not a missed catch but missed opportunity, same game, AFTER "the Catch", Drew Pearson was free and clear heading for 6 but a lucky horse collar tackle saved the day)
We love the Giants keeping the Pats from 19-0 and then beating them again 4 years later, but not for a miracle catch by Tyree, Manningham's amazing sideliner and Wes Welker's drop, things would be different...
Lynn Swann makes a couple of circus catches, and is in HOF despite a somewhat mediocre career

I liked Cooks, thought he got a bad rap, and was the best offensive player in that game. BUT those were career defining opportunities, he makes one of the two and its possibly a different outcome and who knows what career trajectory change may have been made

Spot on imo

 

[FrantikRam]

Two plays haunt me from that game... The wide open drop in the endzone (the pass was late but you gotta bring that in), and the other one that was high but catchable. If Cooks brings in just that first one we might be 2018 champs.

The hold on Gurley's nice run too but meh. IMO that game killed Cooks mentally. It stole his mojo to see him fail in the opportunity to hurt the team who traded him because they felt he wasn't worth the money.

IMO that late throw wasn't on Cooks - that's a really tough play because of how late it was, his position in the endzone and where the defender was. You'd like a $15 million WR to make that play, but that's just not Cooks' game. Goff not seeing it was the problem there.

The second one was absolutely on Cooks, and I agree that we win the game if he just catches it. The NFL came out and said it should have been DPI on Gilmore, which is ironic.

But the holding call was the worst play of the game and it swung it. It wasn't much of a hold, and it smelled of helping the Patriots. Prior to that hold, the win probability was 58.9% Rams - after that hold it was 50.3% Patriots - a swing of 9.2%, and then it just kept going up for the Patriots.

The thing that will always piss me off the most is without that holding call, WITHOUT it, the penalties would have been:

Patriots - 3-20
Rams - 8-55

WITHOUT the holding call it was still one-sided in favor of the Patriots. You'll never convince me that it wasn't a steer job by the refs, either for the Patriots because, who the fuck knows, or because of the media outrage over the non call, even though the Saints still had several chances to win the damn game.

 

[Liberator]

IMO that late throw wasn't on Cooks - that's a really tough play because of how late it was, his position in the endzone and where the defender was. You'd like a $15 million WR to make that play, but that's just not Cooks' game. Goff not seeing it was the problem there.

yeah that throw was 100 percent on Goff. If he had read it better that's an easy 6 had so much space to throw and just didn't see it for whatever reason.

 

[dieterbrock]

yeah that throw was 100 percent on Goff. If he had read it better that's an easy 6 had so much space to throw and just didn't see it for whatever reason.

I'm a huge fan of Goff, think he gets a bad rap, and all QB's miss passes during a game.
*BUT*
No doubt that was on him. No pass rush, no over the top help there and as late as it was, it was also thrown high.
I cant give it 100% on Goff because Cooks did get 2 mitts on the ball, so maybe just 98% Goff fault....

View: https://youtu.be/_QO55-KqgZo

 

[badnews]

Aaron Rodgers can miss his guys running free 4 times in a game, and he isn't questioned on air. If he throws a ball that isn't near his WR, its automatically assumed its the reciever. If Goff does either, somebody like Aikman will immediately say "Goff has to see his open guy" or "uhh.. off target pass there", it's never on his reciever running the wrong route and they really never know what the route was supposed to be. Doesn't matter as much as making Goffs play sound like it fits their narrative. If he puts a ball in the endzone, but it doesn't happen at the exact best moment for the reciever its "Goff has to be better there and get the ball out on time."
If it's a Rodgers throw its "he gave his guy a chance. The reciever needs to make a play for his QB."

The talking heads paint the discussion how ever they like and a ton of people can't see the double standards. They just accept their description of the play as accurate. "They're the experts" after all.....

Any darling QB gets a 1st down with his hard count, they like to tell us what a smart guy he is and how many ways he can get you. If Goff does it over and over and is as good at it as anyone in the league, if they say anything it's "See how the Rams Oline all stood up? Smart play."

It's lame and I am so tired of all the retired egomaniacs doing commentary. Everyone of them.
I wish the NFL would start from scratch with really smart people who know the game and are good at commentary but have zero agendas, you could never tell who they are pulling for, unlike the thinly veiled bullshit that these "former greats" get away with. I don't want former players with their obvious biases towards teams or players. They can have all the cable talkshow bullshit but stay TFO of the booth please...

/rant over

 

[dieterbrock]

somebody like Aikman

Honestly, the most over rated QB of all time. Goff had his full season career LOW in TD's last year of 24 (22 pass, 2 rush) which incidentally matches Aikman's career HIGH in td's. (23 pass, 1 rush). That was the only season Aikman threw for more than 20.
Troy had 174 TD's in 12 seasons, Goff has 115 in just under 5. He'll blow by #8 in the next 2 years...
I liked him at first, thought he provided some good insight, now he just comes off as Chris Simms if he played on a better team