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Cignetti putting his own stamp on Rams' offense
• By Jim Thomas

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/foot...cle_8316d0fa-de40-50fd-a96c-bf3b12dc9c61.html

Backup quarterback Austin Davis says the Frank Cignetti scheme has its own flavor. Wide receiver Kenny Britt said there’s a big learning curve involved in getting it down.

But if you’re expecting a radical departure scheme-wise from what was done under predecessor Brian Schottenheimer, think again.

“It’s like this: Coach Schottenheimer put a tremendous foundation in place here,” said Cignetti, the Rams’ new offensive coordinator. “It’s like buying a house. The foundation’s there. What do you do? ‘Let’s remodel a couple rooms.’ So really that’s what we’ve done.”

So there may be a new rug here; some curtains there; fresh paint in a couple of rooms. But it’s not like the place has been gutted and the Rams are starting from scratch.

“All we have done is put our personal touches in different areas,” said Cignetti, the team’s quarterbacks coach the previous three seasons under Jeff Fisher. “And frankly, if Coach Schottenheimer was here, that’s what you do as a staff every year. You look at it and you continually look for ways to improve.”

It may take weeks, even months, once training camp starts to fully flesh out the changes. But some are evident already.

Up front the Rams are switching to a zone blocking scheme, which should make it a little easier for a young offensive line to figure out who to block from play to play.

There is a new emphasis on the short passing game and getting the ball out quickly, perhaps another concession to the inexperience up front and the need to keep new starting quarterback Nick Foles upright.

As Fisher has mentioned on several occasions, the play-calling has been streamlined and simplified. That should make it easier to grasp the system overall and easier to keep everyone on the same page on game day.

According to Britt, Cignetti is making a concerted effort to play to the strengths of each skill position player.

“He’s getting everybody in position to use their talents to the best of their ability,” Britt said. “And that’s something that we needed. Each one has so many different skill abilities. He’s putting it to use this season.”

By the end of the spring practice period Thursday, most of the concepts in the running game, passing game and pass protection had been installed and introduced to the players.

“There’s a new flavor to everything we’re doing,” said Davis, who’s expected to battle Case Keenum for the No. 2 quarterback job in training camp. “Coach Cig, he’s his own man. He’s his own coordinator. He wants to do things differently in some areas. But at the same time we’re running a lot of the same concepts. So most of it is review.”

Although Cignetti has had extensive coordinator experience at the college level, this is his first bite of the apple at the NFL level. He’s loving every minute of it so far. Then again, he has yet to be second-guessed over a play call or been forced to make a split-second decision on third-and-long.

“I love just leading the group,” Cignetti said. “I love trying to put people in a position to be successful. I love the schematics of being a coordinator — the organization of being a coordinator.”

Cignetti points out that this is “our” offense, not “his” offense. It’s a collective effort, with input sought and put to use from the entire offensive staff.

“Every day is a blessing,” he said. “I come to work trying to have fun, trying to do the best job I can teaching. ... I’ve been around it my whole life. I’m a coach’s kid.

“I’ve been on this field ever since I was 5, 6 years old. I’m comfortable on the field, in the locker room. Just love it. Can’t get enough of it.”

The son of a longtime small-college coach in Pennsylvania, Cignetti will have his exuberance tested by the defensive gantlet that is the NFC West, not to mention out-of-division games against the likes of Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Cincinnati and other strong defensive clubs.

Much remains to be done once the team returns from its summer break for training camp at the end of July.

Cignetti may not be able to get a true read on running back Todd Gurley’s readiness until well into training camp, as the former Georgia standout completes his rehab from knee surgery.

On the offensive line, continuity is mere rumor with rookies Rob Havenstein and Jamon Brown getting their first taste of the NFL at right tackle and right guard, respectively. There’s a three-ring circus at center with Barrett Jones, Tim Barnes and Demetrius Rhaney all competing for a starting job.

“It’s a process,” Cignetti said. “Every day you want to see these young men come out here and continue to get better, which is what we’ve seen.”

And line “veterans” Rodger Saffold at left guard and Greg Robinson at left tackle were limited to individual work during the OTAs as they rehabbed from offseason surgery.

At quarterback, Foles got tons of reps during the June sessions, many more than he’d have gotten had he been with the club for a few years.

“Nick Foles, first off, is an unbelievable person,” Cignetti said. “High character. Great leadership. He does a great job in the classroom, great in the locker room. He’s able to take the teaching from the classroom to the field. Every day you’ve seen that Nick has gotten better.”

In the continuing efforts to get Tavon Austin more involved in the offense, Cignetti liked what he saw from the wide receiver this spring.

“Tavon Austin’s had a great offseason,” Cignetti said. “It starts in the classroom. He’s learning. He’s paying attention. He’s bringing it to the practice field.

“You just see it from his route running. What a difference. His effort, his attention to details. Every day out there, the guy’s made plays.”
 

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I thought we are going to use some zone blocking, not switching completely to zone blocking scheme. Do writer's do any research anymore or do they just make it up as they go along?
 

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I like that the coaches and players are all talking about plays designed to the skill sets of the players and not players having to fit into a scheme. With Schotty I always felt he tried to make players fit into his plays. Schotty is a smart dude but I think he over thought, over complicated, and tried to be so unpredictable he just made it impossible. I love they are retining what he did well.
 

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I thought that our linemen were all better suited for the power blocking scheme and not the zone blocking one? At least that is what was said during the draft.
 

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I thought we are going to use some zone blocking, not switching completely to zone blocking scheme. Do writer's do any research anymore or do they just make it up as they go along?
It's hard to tell in JT's case!!
 

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Cignetti saying all the right things.
I like his view and attitude.
 

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I thought that our linemen were all better suited for the power blocking scheme and not the zone blocking one? At least that is what was said during the draft.
I thought we are going to use some zone blocking, not switching completely to zone blocking scheme. Do writer's do any research anymore or do they just make it up as they go along?

Gentlemen the Rams are adding some zone blocking schemes to their offense which is easier for the younger guys to pick up. As to your inquiry @hotanez no most writer's do not research anymore they just copy and paste and base their opinions on other individual's observations! That is the world we now live in nobody's mind is now soiled with an original thought.
 

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Lol I love how articles always tip toe around the fact of calling Schotty shitty.

Two players who love all the changes? Cookie and Tavon!
 

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Lol I love how articles always tip toe around the fact of calling Schotty crappy.

Two players who love all the changes? Cookie and Tavon!

I will go on the record that Brian Schottenheimer's hire at the University of Georgia will lead to the firing of Mark Richt in Athens!
 

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Interesting about the "switch" to zone-blocking. Everyone does a little bit of both but I wonder if this means they're going predominantly zone blocking as opposed to what we heard before about adding "some more" zone blocking. That would be a big change but could pay some big dividends in the running game AND play-action game. One could argue that a predominantly zone-blocking scheme benefits a play-action passing better than man-blocking.

Robinson and Saffold should have no problem with zone blocking. The others, I'm not so sure.
 

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I will go on the record that Brian Schottenheimer's hire at the University of Georgia will lead to the firing of Mark Richt in Athens!
That is a very wise prediction... Probably will take 2-3 years I'm guessing. I don't know that Schotty's predictable offense might work in college, it's just they better be prepared when he runs out of his scripted plays to hold onto their asses!
 

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Cignetti will have his exuberance tested by the defensive gantlet that is the NFC West, not to mention out-of-division games against the likes of Pittsburgh...
Steelers? Really? This isn't the 70's, 80's, 90's, or early 2000's....but that is a long time..

I thought we are going to use some zone blocking, not switching completely to zone blocking scheme. Do writer's do any research anymore or do they just make it up as they go along?

I thought that our linemen were all better suited for the power blocking scheme and not the zone blocking one? At least that is what was said during the draft.
They will use both...I'm sure they always have
 

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My issue with BS was more the fact that he seemed to be tone deaf to the game versus his play design. It's not like Pat Schurmur who had a play pamphlet not a play book. So we shall see, I'm hoping for some more in game sensible adjustments and play selection. They can keep the same plays for all I care, just don't run TAustin between the tackles on 2nd and 9.
 

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Lol I love how articles always tip toe around the fact of calling Schotty crappy.

Two players who love all the changes? Cookie and Tavon!

I don't think Schotty's playbook was bad, just his playcalling many times and where he lined certain players up

This was my favorite part of this article and goes with your last line. Something Schotty definitely was not great at...

According to Britt, Cignetti is making a concerted effort to play to the strengths of each skill position player.

“He’s getting everybody in position to use their talents to the best of their ability,” Britt said. “And that’s something that we needed. Each one has so many different skill abilities. He’s putting it to use this season.”

Music to my ears!! And definitely something Schotty needs to improve on. Tailoring your offense to your players skill sets should always be a no brainer in my opinion.
 

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I don't think Schotty's playbook was bad, just his playcalling many times and where he lined certain players up

This was my favorite part of this article and goes with your last line. Something Schotty definitely was not great at...



Music to my ears!! And definitely something Schotty needs to improve on. Tailoring your offense to your players skill sets should always be a no brainer in my opinion.
We have to take into consideration that our young WR group didn't really have many strenghts the first couple years.
What strengths did guys like Quick, Austin and Baily have, when they are trying to grasp the play at the NFL level. Not many. You can't just send them all out there to run 9 rts.
As they progress, it should be much easier to position them.
 

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I don't think Schotty's playbook was bad, just his playcalling many times and where he lined certain players up

This was my favorite part of this article and goes with your last line. Something Schotty definitely was not great at...



Music to my ears!! And definitely something Schotty needs to improve on. Tailoring your offense to your players skill sets should always be a no brainer in my opinion.

We have to take into consideration that our young WR group didn't really have many strenghts the first couple years.
What strengths did guys like Quick, Austin and Baily have, when they are trying to grasp the play at the NFL level. Not many. You can't just send them all out there to run 9 rts.
As they progress, it should be much easier to position them.

His play calling was ok when he had a script going, when that bastard ran out !!

I agree that he rarely played to his players strengths, running Austin up the gut multiple times in the NFL is a very good example of this.

As for examples of him not playing to talent while he was here? Ojinaka or whatever the hell that bums name was absolutely sucked but if you had to pick a few highlights of his game holding a block for a seven step drop and having someone blitz in gap next to him spelt disaster. He actually did half ass decent on draws, screens, quick 3 step or some 5 step quick patterns where he didn't have to
 

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Interesting about the "switch" to zone-blocking. Everyone does a little bit of both but I wonder if this means they're going predominantly zone blocking as opposed to what we heard before about adding "some more" zone blocking. That would be a big change but could pay some big dividends in the running game AND play-action game. One could argue that a predominantly zone-blocking scheme benefits a play-action passing better than man-blocking.

Robinson and Saffold should have no problem with zone blocking. The others, I'm not so sure.
It might play into rhaney favor at center. He said the offense looks a lot like he played at his college
 

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Frank Cignetti settling in as Rams' offensive coordinator
By Nick Wagoner

http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-ra...tti-settling-in-as-rams-offensive-coordinator

EARTH CITY, Mo. -- New St. Louis Rams offensive coordinator Frank Cignetti Jr. has only been on the job for about five months, which isn't enough time to make any sort of sweeping declarations about his impact on an offense in need of all the help it can get.

But it is enough time for Cignetti to begin making an impression and establishing his style after earning a promotion from quarterbacks coach.

"I think if you ask the players, I haven’t changed," Cignetti said. "Every day is a blessing. I come to work trying to have fun, trying to do the best job I can teaching. I come out on the field and enjoy the game of football. I’ve been around it my whole life. I’m a coach’s kid. I’ve been on this field since I was 5, 6 years old. I’m comfortable on the field, in the locker room. I can’t get enough of it.”

Cignetti has had the workaholic reputation since he arrived in St. Louis with head coach Jeff Fisher in 2012. But he's spent the past three years tutoring the quarterbacks while Brian Schottenheimer coordinated the offense. When Schottenheimer departed for the same job at the University of Georgia, Fisher began exploring his options for a replacement.

Ultimately, Fisher settled on the continuity that Cignetti brings with the idea to finally establish a firm offensive identity capable of performing above the group that has ranked 28th in total yards, 19th in rushing, 25th in passing and 26th in offensive points scored per game in the past three years. That means there will be changes, though this renovation won't be a total gut so much as some minor redecorating.

“It’s like this: Coach Schottenheimer put a tremendous foundation in place here," Cignetti said. "It’s like buying a house. The foundation is there. You guys buy a house, what do you do? Let’s remodel a couple rooms. Really, that’s what we’ve done. The foundation of the system hasn’t changed. All we’ve done is put our personal touches in different areas and frankly, if Coach Schottenheimer was here, that’s what you do as a staff every year. You look at it and you continually look for ways to improve.”

So while Cignetti didn't toss the playbook and all of the terminology that comes with it, he's made plenty of tweaks that figure to be noticeable when the games start in September. Included in those changes is an increased use of zone-blocking schemes for the offensive line in an effort to help bolster the running game and protect quarterback Nick Foles.

Fisher also has alluded to simplifying the play calling in an effort to make it easier for all parties.

"It’s all coming," Fisher said. "I think the players will tell you that. We shortened the play calls from a terminology standpoint. We have some flexibility to do some things, I think, that match up better with our personnel. We’re just going to continue to work with it."

Fisher points to rookie quarterback Sean Mannion's ability to quickly grasp the offense as a sign that what Cignetti is doing is being heard and understood by the offense. By the end of organized team activities, the offense had installed the vast majority of the major offensive concepts though there's still work to be done when training camp starts at the end of July, specifically from an individual game plan standpoint.

Cignetti isn't a first-time coordinator. He had multiple stops in the role at the college level, but this is his first go at it in the NFL. No matter the level, he certainly seems comfortable in the job.

“Well, I love it," Cignetti said. "I always have. I love just leading the group. I love trying to put people in a position to be successful. I love the schematics of the game, the organization of being a coordinator. The ability to come out here and try to motivate the group. It’s just something I’ve always enjoyed doing."