Carolina saved us from ourselves (in the long run)

[AvengerRam]

Would I like it if Christian McCaffrey or Brian Burns was lining up for the Rams today?

Of course.

But, in the long run, Carolina, by trading CMC to the 49ers and spurning our crazy offer for Burns, may have saved us from ourselves.

In CMC’s case, I just don’t trust the guy to stay healthy. Also, look at the Day 2 rookie RBs tearing up the league. Do you really need to give up 3-4 picks for a RB?

In Burns’ case, two firsts and a second!?!? That’s WAY to much for him, particularly in a year where he’s not likely to be the final piece that leads to a championship.

Call it sour grapes if you will, but I think when we look back two or three years from now, we’re going to be glad these deals didn’t happen.

 

[Allen2McVay]

I read about two #1s being offered for Burns but didn’t see anything about a #2.

Was that reported? Saw a tweet

 

[Allen2McVay]

I read about two #1s being offered for Burns but didn’t see anything about a #2.

Was that reported?

Just saw a tweet from a J. Jones about it. Wonder if that’s true. Sure seems like a lot.

 

[Ramrasta]

Agree 100%. This roster is more than a player away at this point. If we dont start building through the draft, our depth issues will keep growing while our cap situation worsens. Even Demoff said the way we have been running the organization is unsustainable.

 

[CGI_Ram]

CMC scares me. I would have LOVED to see him play as a Ram but I’d cringe every tackle with him. I think we dodged a bullet there, maybe.

Burns… He feels like that anchor type player and I would have LOVED that trade (think Ramsey trade).

 

[So Ram]

CMC scares me. I would have LOVED to see him play as a Ram but I’d cringe every tackle with him. I think we dodged a bullet there, maybe.

Burns… He feels like that anchor type player and I would have LOVED that trade (think Ramsey trade).

Well what we dodged is the 9ers gain.

I will say this about The Rams this season. It’s a character building year. Call it a rebuild or whatever?

I will not say The Rams don’t have a chance to make the playoffs,but everything is stacked against them.I down with that. A good off season & maybe a face lift won’t hurt.

—There is also reason some teams go first to last.The better The Rams do is the better they are built as a franchise.

I don’t think some Ram Fans understand how lucky we are &
that there is more to winning.

The SAD thing is how stacked that other team is.We played against a team that needed this bye week & has half there D’ all coming back.

Arizona & SeaHags will be a good game to watch. Meaningful for the division.

 

[tempests]

Didn't want either of those deals to happen. This franchise needs to plan for a post Aaron Donald reality, which is coming much sooner than later. Draft our own players and take advantage of the rookie wage scale.

Finding "foundational" players in the draft costs less than needing to trade for them in their prime.

 

[den-the-coach]

It's okay, the Rams are a victim of their own success. Other teams are now making trades when they didn't and the 49ers had more draft capital to outbid the Rams and they did. Rams pivoted to try and acquire Burns, but the Panthers decided to keep him. It's like hey if the Rams want him that bad, he must be good. No worries, that's how it goes and hopefully the Rams can pivot and start drafting well to replenish their team moving forward.

 

[den-the-coach]

Finding "foundational" players in the draft costs less than needing to trade for them in their prime.

I agree here, if there was no cap, I wouldn't care because someone like Burns is young and could be a cornerstone for years, but draft choices cost less, which empowers you to add other pieces in case of injury.
Overall, it's time to retool because in the long run it will be a better option, however, if they really like a young player and have the opportunity to add a position considered an upper tier need like LT, I could see them still making a deal.

 

[snackdaddy]

Two firsts was way too much if the reports are true. He was not going to make them into a playoff team. He was not the missing piece we needed to make another superbowl run. Miller was last year. But this year they need a lot more than that.

 

[Ram Ts]

I applaud the effort. Feels good to have a FO/team who is willing to do anything to win. However, there comes a point where an effort goes from aggressive to desperation - I think the CMC/Burns falls into the latter.

 

[Corbin]

Totally agree. The reports of us offering 2 firsts and a 2 are mind boggling to say the least. Burns isn’t even near close to being a top tier OLB in the NFL? Wtf? And to offer all that because we didn’t give Von 3years guaranteed to match the Bills and we were already more per year.

I know we are all in but we got Von for practically nothing and let walk like nothing, now we are giving away the house for a subpar player?

I’d prefer a trade for a premier LT tbh. That’s what we’re missing.


Also, the lack or willingness to trade up day 2 and get a legit back has mind boggled me too. But give up what for CMC that is oft injured and costs what? (Although he did lay it down on us)

I love Snead but have no idea what direction we are heading now tbh.

 

[Riverumbbq]

Didn't want either of those deals to happen. This franchise needs to plan for a post Aaron Donald reality, which is coming much sooner than later. Draft our own players and take advantage of the rookie wage scale.

Finding "foundational" players in the draft costs less than needing to trade for them in their prime.

Brian Burns was a plan for the current & post Donald era, he's only 24 years old. True that he wasn't likely to deliver us to the Super Bowl this year, not with our OL situation, but he'll be a key future player for the next 6 or 7 years.
I won't be surprised to see the Rams take another shot at him during the 2023 Draft. jmo.

 

[majrleaged]

I like the Rams philosophy. Draft picks only cost less if they pan out. They always cost more in time waiting for them to clue in. I know it is hard to see the draft happen and not be a player for some of you, but drafting is not a sure thing. For years we were worried about wasting the AD years. Now we have won 1 and it is ok? You guys remember Marino. He thought he would have more chances, but he only got the one shot. How long did we have to wait to get another chance after the cheaters and the NFL stole our second chance? This is our best chance to get another one with this core group and head coach. Many of us on this board will probably be dead the next time this comes around. Fuck the draft. And fuck Carolina, those selfish bastards.

What Carolina did was keep us from getting better now. I am not sure why anybody thinks that is a good thing. missing out on the RB didn't bother me, I too was against that, but the Edge rusher is another matter. As I mentioned in another thread. My understanding of the draft value chart is, every year in the future those picks are out, lowers the value a round. So that makes it 2 2nds and a 3rd. Seems worth it.

 

[tempests]

he'll be a key future player for the next 6 or 7 years.

Then Carolina will pay him and not trade him.

It's easier to find an impact pass rusher in the draft than it is to try and wrestle an already established player out of the hands of the team that is resolved to keep him.

I don't like being desperate at the trade deadline.

 

[Liberator]

I would have traded two firsts and a second for Burns too but I think he is going to be one of the best edges in the league if he isn't already.

 

[tempests]

My understanding of the draft value chart is, every year in the future those picks are out, lowers the value a round. So that makes it 2 2nds and a 3rd. Seems worth it.

That also makes the Rams offer less appealing.

At least the draft is something they can control.

 

[jjab360]

Agreed, I think the Panthers saved Snead from the worst version of himself there

 

[Riverumbbq]

Then Carolina will pay him and not trade him.

It's easier to find an impact pass rusher in the draft than it is to try and wrestle an already established player out of the hands of the team that is resolved to keep him.

I don't like being desperate at the trade deadline.

I disagree on it being easier to draft an impact Edge, not when you don't have a 1'st round draft pick & are picking late in the 2'nd. Top Edge Rushers go early, guys like Chubb & Burns who were the most sought after players up until the deadline, and even Robert Quinn & Leonard Floyd went in the top half of the first round, ... you get into the later rounds and it's always going to be a crapshoot for a quality Edge OLB. Those hopeful 'sure-things' like QB's, LT's and Edge Rushers are going to be gone where we pick.
If Carolina wasn't in rebuild mode, why did they unload a young McCaffrey ? They need a QB to get things moving again, and that generally requires very high draft picks, they'll also be looking for a new H.C. who has his own ideas about forward progress.
Going after Burns is not about desperation, it's about building a better future while you still have the quality base players that can take you to the next level.
jmo.