C Littleton Write up (Long and Detailed)

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https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2018/10/26/18026752/why-cory-littleton-is-overrated

Littleton has done a good job this season as a starting linebacker for the Rams. Wade Phillips said after the win over the Niners that Littleton "is way ahead of everybody in the league as far as pass coverage" and praised Littleton's play against both the run and the pass. For an UDFA projected to be no more than a special teams player in the NFL, he's already far exceeded expectations.

I appreciate that McVay and Wade build up their players. It is part of establishing a "We not me" culture and trying to get the best performance out of them possible. In my opinion, however, the tape isn't as flattering to Littleton. With all due respect to wise man Wade, I don't think Littleton is an elite player against either the run or the pass. Some plays from the Niners (in what has been characterized as a monster performance by Littleton) I believe illustrate areas where Littleton could improve his game.

Littleton defending the run

Some runs by Mostert are shown in this video.

Play 1: At 44 seconds of the clip, the Niners run outside to the left. AD gambles and jumps inside (an example of how his aggressive, penetrating style sometimes makes things more difficult for his teammates). Longacre is doing fine setting the edge, which causes Mostert to cut into the gap created between these 2 Ram defenders.

The big mistake is made by Littleton. Instead of staying over the top of his blocker, he tries to go under the block by swimming over the lineman. This turns out to be a very bad decision, because Mostert beats him to the lane, resulting in a huge gain.

Play 2: At 57 seconds, Littleton does a lackluster job taking on his block (see also the play at 39 seconds). Only a phenomenal effort by Brockers to trip up the RB saves the day and prevents a long run. If Littleton did a better job jamming up the blocker and holding ground he could have reduced the gap so that the RB couldn't have fallen forward for as many yards. He doesn't need to make the tackle himself, he just needs to move his blocker into the way so that the RB can't burst between Barron and Brockers at full speed.

Play 3: SF has a 3rd and 1 at 1:06 of the video. AD creates outstanding penetration. Littleton crashes into the backfield, but this appears to be because the RG trips and falls down. Unintentionally, AD might have gotten in the way of Littleton. Not the worst play by Littleton, but when you're unblocked like that, a great LB should be able to get through all that trash and get in on the tackle and prevent a first down.

Littleton against the pass

CJ Beathard's pass attempts are in this video.

Play 1: This is a screen pass to the RB at 24 seconds of the clip. Littleton is the key defender on the play. The way the LT blocks reveals that a screen is coming, but Littleton appears to get distracted by the WR crossing by his face. So, instead of moving laterally to get in better position to stop the screen, Littleton moves forward. This helps make the block by the LT, Joe Staley, very easy and Mostert rumbles down the middle of the field for a huge gain.

Play 2: Littleton is trying to cover the FB, Kyle Juszczyk at 35 seconds. Littleton lacks quickness and instead of being able to turn and run with the FB, he tries to reach out and jam him. This is right on the edge of the 5 yard limit, so it is borderline illegal contact. Juszczyk still gets behind Littleton and better throw by the QB would have beaten him for a nice gain. I see this as an example of poor QB play by SF more than a great pass coverage rep by Littleton.

More telling is that it appears the FB was the primary option, which combined with some of the other plays in the video, establishes a pattern of SF challenging Littleton in coverage.

Play 3: At 43 sec is another screen pass, this time to the right side. Both SF guards, Tomlinson and Person, make a mess of this play. Neither of them attempt to block Littleton as Tomlinson peels back to block Suh, a curious decision, while Person seems to be aimlessly doing nothing. Littleton makes the tackle, but this is a pretty easy play since he's not blocked.

Play 4: Littleton gets a sack at 1:02 on a blitz. Hard to tell if SF had a bad protection call, the FB (or maybe the RT) missed his assignment, but no one blocks Littleton even though you can see him creeping up towards the LOS prior to the snap. The QB Beathard doesn't recognize Littleton coming free until it is too late, which compounds the problem. Good job by Littleton finishing the play, but I think this is another example of poor execution by SF more than a great defensive play.

Play 5: Littleton drops into zone coverage on tight end Kittle at 2:19. As Beathard surveys the field, Littleton completely loses track of Kittle. Beathard finds him and Kittle runs into Rams territory after the catch. This isn't an easy play for a LB, because he has so much field to cover, he has to watch the QB for a scramble and the longer the play goes on the TE should be able to create some separation. Still, I think Littleton has very poor awareness on this play. Kittle is able to settle and is stationary when he turns around and makes the catch, yet Littleton isn't in the same area code. That's really bad pass coverage.

Play 6: The Niners are in a double TE to the right formation at 3:45. The inside TE runs straight down the field. The QB makes a conservative short pass, but the TE is wide open. Littleton doesn't do anything to impede his progress or get depth to squeeze the open area. Another play I'm putting in the "Beathard isn't a good QB" category and not the "Littleton is a great LB" pot.

Play 7: Kittle again exploits Littleton at 4:06. Littleton gets completely turned around and off a very easy dump pass the result is another big gainer.

Play 8: SF goes to the well again, attacking Littleton in coverage at 4:18. A combination of either Celek slowing down or the QB missing the target results in an incomplete pass.

While SF did get Littleton a few times in pass coverage, there were even more plays out there to be made against him. SF just weren't good enough to take full advantage of their opportunities.

Overall, I'm pleased with how Littleton is playing, but I'm not yet ready to anoint him a core player on the defense. He needs to be more physical taking on blocks, diagnose better, and maintain balance in pass coverage. If he can progress as a LB, it should help reduce the number of big plays surrendered by the Rams defense.
 

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Littleton's our only solid ILB right now. He's definitely not elite, guys like Kittle are going to eat him up in the passing game and he's not a guy who can blow up or consistently get off blocks. But he is good/consistent with his gap discipline and has some really nice instincts on the interior rush.

And as much as I'm of the mind that we need help at ILB... I think finding a safety who can flip run support & coverage roles would be a bigger addition to this defense. It would give Wade some more flexibility wrt that nickel package, which is more and more important in this league every year. I watch Derwin James play for the Chargers and think just damn, what that dude could do in this defense.

Either way I want to see Les invest in the defensive side of the ball in the draft. If this team settles in as an offensive juggernaut with a soft defense our "window" is going to be very disappointing. Build that side of the ball plz, they need help around the key guys who are in place.
 

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Littleton got sucked in on the TD to Watson against the Saints.

He is new to the position and still has to learn. Ogletree got burned a number of times (holding TE/RBs) out of the backfield. Looking a the videos in the article I see the some of the mistakes. Some I'm not sure if others could do better as Shanahan draws up good plays and the Whiners can execute them. He is athletic with long arms that help him make up for being a step or two behind on seem passes. He is not elite but, has done fine for his first year starting.
 

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Can't believe I am writing this, but I can only wonder what it would look like if you took Fisher/William's defense, and put it on this team. I always thought that defense did wonders considering it was on the field ALL THE TIME with those terrible offensive performances.
 

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Fans: Cory Littleton is playing well, especially for an UDFA first time starter.

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Fisher/Williams defense? You mean the one that kept giving up 3rd and longs?
 

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Can't believe I am writing this, but I can only wonder what it would look like if you took Fisher/William's defense, and put it on this team. I always thought that defense did wonders considering it was on the field ALL THE TIME with those terrible offensive performances.

It may not be a popular take. But I think Fisher/ Williams did more with less when it came to defense. For whatever the reason Wade hasn't really lived up to expectations with the Rams. If we learned anything it's that the Phillips D really needs good play from OLB's. I don't like the fact the D is so dependent on certain position to suceed.

As for Littleton. He's a nice player, he's probabaly slightly above average. He's much more noticeable when the Rams are playing weaker competition. I think he would pair really well with more of stout true ILB. Barron coming back has helped some. Overall though I think the ILB could be a postion to improve in the future.
 
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Fisher, Williams had a more versatile, deeper defensive line. Suh and Donald hardly ever leave the field, the drop off is too steep when they're not in there.
 

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I am beginnigng to wonder about Wade (not just because of the Saints game).
When we play very good to great QBs we are awful. THen we beat up on the teams with bad O lines or whatever.
 

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The Fisher Williams defenses gave up 12 points a game, we give up 28 now.
But of course offenses only had to score 13 to win. You don’t have to pass a lot or even run many plays when you know the offense can’t score.

Offenses and defenses can both help each other with winning and hurt each other with stats. The truth generally lies somewhere in between.

Everyone can see this defense giving up big plays and not getting pressure. The Williams defense gave up big runs but faced less open offenses because the Rams rarely had a big lead. Would the Williams defense give up more if the offense scored more? Hard to say but pretty likely IMO.

This defense needs to step up and play better - no doubt about it. Even just a little better play would likely give them the edge they need.
 

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But of course offenses only had to score 13 to win. You don’t have to pass a lot or even run many plays when you know the offense can’t score.

Offenses and defenses can both help each other with winning and hurt each other with stats. The truth generally lies somewhere in between.

Everyone can see this defense giving up big plays and not getting pressure. The Williams defense gave up big runs but faced less open offenses because the Rams rarely had a big lead. Would the Williams defense give up more if the offense scored more? Hard to say but pretty likely IMO.

This defense needs to step up and play better - no doubt about it. Even just a little better play would likely give them the edge they need.

I guess we are just all disappointed after getting two "shutdown" corners, and having what is supposed to be the best D-Line in football, but still getting scored on like crazy.
 

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Littleton is a playmaker, growing into a new position. Sure, it's concerning to see growing pains for a guy playing an important role, but what's more alarming is the substandard play of several vets.

Unlike otree, Littleton doesn't always have to have scripted blitzes to make a play and is much better in coverage despite the 9er game. I think a big test will be vs the eagles who use TEs a lot and put up 3 TD passes on us using TEs last season.
 

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Fisher, Williams had a more versatile, deeper defensive line. Suh and Donald hardly ever leave the field, the drop off is too steep when they're not in there.

The rotation of the DL has been happening less this season than seasons past. The snaps our 3 DL'er starters are getting..... is up. Ethan Westbrooks has been the main NT back up with rookie John Franklin-Myers being the main back up for Brockers/Donald. JFM has also played a heavy amount of OLB'er due to all the injuries Wade has had early. ;)

Here's something to ponder....JFM has had zero stats the last 3 gms played:huh:. Ethan Westbrooks has only 1 tackle the last 3 gms played:notsure:. Tanzel Smart has only been active for one gm & never saw the field. Rookie NT Sebastian Joseph-Day has not dressed this season. So whenever the 3 starters depart the only DL'er who replaced the trio are JFM & Westbrooks. :cautious:

Last season Wade utilized his edge rushers/OLB'ers much more often in his DL rotation. This season Wade has lost 4 planned ER/OLB's (Fox/Sickels/Og Okoronkwo/Easley). 2 other ER/OLB'ers Matt Longacre & Trevon Young have been injured. Leaving Wade with just Ebukam & rookie 7th rd. Justin Lawler as his only healthy ER's. :(

Now getting ready for gm #10 Wade has traded for young veteran OLB Dante Fowler Jr. & now activated rookie 5th rd OLB'er Og Okoronkwo to assist in the rotation in the front four or five. Both have pass rushing skills to assist with our on going issues on defense:).

I would hope to see more of rookie NT Sebastian Joseph-Day myself becasue I have seen Smart's :poop: play . Rams have 2 UFA's (Suh/Westbrooks) DL'ers & FOUR FA'cy (Longacre/ Easley/ Fowler/ Morgan Fox) ER/OLB'ers upcoming in less than 4 months. Thus there will be some very big changes happening next season in the Front Five DL.
 
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Here's something to ponder....JFM has had zero stats the last 3 gms played:huh:. Ethan Westbrooks has only 1 tackle the last 3 gms played:notsure:. Tanzel Smart has only been active for one gm & never saw the field. Rookie NT Sebastian Joseph-Day has not dressed this season. So whenever the 3 starters depart the only DL'er who replaced the trio are JFM & Westbrooks. :cautious:

I'm surprised at the lack of playing time for Westbrooks. I thought he was coming on. The Rams pass rush really misses Easley. Would have been interesting to see what Fox could do.