Broncos coach Vic Fangio believes NFL should get rid of divisions altogether, suggests new playoff format

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Broncos coach Vic Fangio believes NFL should get rid of divisions altogether, suggests new playoff format

In just a few short weeks, we'll have the winner of the NFC East hosting one of the wild-card teams to open up the playoffs. On its face, there's nothing wrong here, as that's been the format for years. This year, however, highlights how this playoff system is broken, to a degree.

As things stand heading into Week 15, both the Dallas Cowboys and Philadelphia Eagles are 6-7 on the year and vying for first place in the NFC East. Whichever team wins that division will host a game on Wild Card Weekend. For a team that will finish with possibly a .500 record, it seems odd rewarding what feels like a division winner by default a home playoff game. For teams like either Seattle (10-3) or San Francisco (11-2) -- one of which will play on Wild Card Weekend -- it feels like one will get a raw deal.

So, how do we fix that? Well, Denver Broncos head coach Vic Fangio believes the NFL could take a page out of the NBA's book and simply rid themselves of divisions altogether, rolling with the six best teams in each conference .

"Since the league went to 32 teams, which was when the Texans came in in 2002, my ideal suggestion -- which has never been put forth in front of anybody important -- I don't think there should be divisions," Fangio told reporters Wednesday during his press conference. "I think you've got 16 [teams] in each conference, everybody should play each other once. That's 15 games. If you want a 16th game, you play a natural rival from the other conference. You know, Jets and Giants play every year. Eagles-Steelers, Texans-Cowboys, etc. play every year and keep it at 16 games.

"You'll avoid the problem which is going to happen this year where probably an 8-8 team is hosting a 12-4 team. You're going to get the six best teams in each conference and the divisions always flow. There are some that are easy some year, there are some that have a bunch of good teams. That switches back and forth every couple years. I just think it'd be a good way to avoid it."

Fangio does make an interesting point here. If this was the way that the NFL handled their playoffs, you'd rid yourself of the mediocre teams in the NFC East and substitute them in the playoff race for the Los Angeles Rams (8-5) and Chicago Bears (7-6), two clubs that have been surging as of late, but have a much tougher road to the postseason because of the divisions they're in.

"I just don't think divisions are going to get you the best six every year," Fangio said of the current system. "You want the best six? Do it like they do in college: You play everybody once."

Of course, you can't ignore the elephant in the room that the NFC East -- specifically the Dallas Cowboys -- brings massive TV ratings whenever they play, so the league won't exactly lose much revenue if Dallas makes it in. In fact, they'll gain ratings because of it. That's not the conversation, however. It's more about getting the best teams in and, under the current format, that's not happening this year.

Unfortunately for Fagnio, it doesn't look like change is around the corner. While speaking to reporters at the NFL owners meeting, commissioner Roger Goodell noted that re-seeding the playoffs hasn't been a subject they've covered.

"This is not the first time this conversation has occurred or this situation's occurred," Goodell said, via NFL.com. "Teams go into the season with the first objective is to win the division. That's what they work on -- we win the division and get into the playoffs. That is something we've considered over the years. I have not heard that this year and I don't anticipate hearing it again. It's been discussed in the past but I don't see that as an issue. If it comes up we'll certainly have a conversation. I don't anticipate it."

Fangio made some logical points and highlighted a key flaw in the current playoff format in the NFL. While he may have suggested a pretty sound substitution, the league seems pretty content where things are at, for better or worse.
 

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I am really conflicted here. I like the division format. I really do.

But, I totally dislike the imbalance on strength of schedule. The Patriots might be in last place, if they were in the NFCW.
 

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I dont mind the division format. But it shouldn't be a automatic home playoff game. If anything it should be used for tiebreakers when teams have the same record.
 

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It’s not broken.

Seasons are not going to be perfect every year.

At some point these knee jerk reactions and rule changes (see saints rule) will ruin the game.
 

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Traditional rivalries go away.
The Patriots would have to play a real schedule.
Jerry couldn’t win a division at 8-8.
A bunch of reasons this won’t happen.
 

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Interesting thought but I’m pretty sure to keep the air travel down the NFL created divisions. It also creates the divisional rivalries that I actually enjoy.
 

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Keep the divisions. But take the best six teams according to record and SoS.

I know that with this format that Giantseam that crept into the playoffs with a lousy record would never have shocked the world by beating the Patriots offensive juggernaut in the Super Bowl. But how often does it actually work like that?
 

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As a compromise they could keep the current division format and just let the 6 best teams from each conference into the playoffs, regardless of the division winners. That way you keep up the rivalries, and you can play teams from the other conference every few years.

Disclaimer: I'm biased because that would put the Rams in the playoffs this year. :sneaky:
 

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I think the flawed portion of the system is the part where divisional champs are automatically put into the playoffs (and at a higher seed than wildcards). Does Dallas really belong in the playoffs more the the Rams for example. Perhaps your record alone gets you in?
 

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The only reason this works in the NBA is because they have so many games. Teams not playing teams in the opposite conference, ever, will simply not work.

That said, you could change it to two divisions in each conference:

NFC Northwest:

Rams
Niners
Seahawks
Cardinals
Lions
Vikings
Bears
Packers

NFC Southest:

Cowboys
Saints
Bucs
Falcons
Panthers
Eagles
Redskins
Giants

You play everyone in your division once, home games swap every year. You play the team that placed the same as you from the other three divisions (the other NFC division and both AFC divisions) - then you can divvy up the remaining 6 opponents any way you like from the other NFC division and/or both of the other AFC divisions (2/2/2 at random, 4 for NFC 2 from AFC at random).

Winning your division does still guarantee a playoff spot, but not seeding - this is actually how the NBA does it.

This was a simple format that doesn't blow up any rivalries, actually creates MORE of an imbalance (Saints play the current NFC East instead of the NFC West), and yet still solves the Cowboys or Eagles getting a playoff spot - the only caveat being that the Rams record could be worse having to play the Vikings and Packers instead of the Panthers and Falcons.
 

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I would make just one change: compare the worst division winner's record with the theoretical 3rd wild card's record. If worse, they are out and 3 wild cards get in, with the first seeded wild card getting home field for the wild card game.

That would mean Dallas out and the Rams in right now, and would actually be fair. I know this benefits our team in this instance but that is just a coincidence. Having a 3rd theoretical wild card in play explodes the number of possibilities and adds even more interest around the league late in the season.
 

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So, how do we fix that? Well, Denver Broncos head coach Vic Fangio believes the NFL could take a page out of the NBA's book and simply rid themselves of divisions altogether, rolling with the six best teams in each conference .

This guy isn't paying attention.

The NBA has 6 divisions, 3 in each conference.

They seed differently than the NFL that's true. They seed teams by record in each of the two conferences. It would be possible, though almost impossible, for a division winner to miss the playoffs.

Jerry couldn’t win a division at 8-8.

Maybe give them the division crown but not a playoff berth.

Keep the divisions. But take the best six teams according to record and SoS.

I know that with this format that Giantseam that crept into the playoffs with a lousy record would never have shocked the world by beating the Patriots offensive juggernaut in the Super Bowl. But how often does it actually work like that?

I think the Giants were a wild card that year not a division winner and were 10-6.
 

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Every 10 years or so a division winner will win with a bad record.
So what.

The last thing any sport should do, is copy anything from the NBA.
 

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Let's just get rid of wins and losses all together. Everybody plays for fun, and we'll rotate teams into playoffs each year and see who wins the participation bowl.

Maybe Vic Fangio should shut the hell up and do a better job coaching his team so they don't keep blowing 20-0 leads ....
 

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Heard the discussion on the radio this week.

Man, it's all about division games and the rivalry! Playing twice a year at home and on the road against a division rival makes these games more important and usually more competitive. It's not completely fair but, is the best entertainment value. It's just special playing the Whiners and Hags twice a year. I'm sure it's the same in most divisions. Even when games seemed uneven a division rivalry has created many upsets. Don't dilute the importance of division games. Win your division and you get a home-field playoff game.
 

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I think the flawed portion of the system is the part where divisional champs are automatically put into the playoffs (and at a higher seed than wildcards). Does Dallas really belong in the playoffs more the the Rams for example. Perhaps your record alone gets you in?
we will find out this sunday. i am a Rams homer but if they cannot beat Dallas and enact revenge on the 49ers they don’t deserve to make the playoffs this year.
 

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It's inevitable. Gonna happen at some point.

Just rig the sched to allow for double games vs old division rivals. Done.
 

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we will find out this sunday. i am a Rams homer but if they cannot beat Dallas and enact revenge on the 49ers they don’t deserve to make the playoffs this year.
I agree with you!