Allen Robinson

Been saying that Robinson will be this year's "Matthew Stafford." That's, a good player stuck on a shit team or shit circumstances that finally comes to a good team and shows the League the Superstar he is and helps lead his team to Glory.

Allen Robinson II and the Great Escape From His Quarterback Hell

The Pro Bowl receiver spent nearly a decade catching passes from quarterbacks like Blake Bortles, Mitchell Trubisky, and Justin Fields. Now that he’s in offensive paradise with the Rams, Matthew Stafford, and Sean McVay, it’s finally Robinson’s time to shine.

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[Billy Baroo]

“Robinson’s fight with poor quarterback play goes as far back as his Penn State days, when he played alongside Matt McGloin and Christian Hackenberg. In the NFL, it’s been a combination of Blake Bortles in Jacksonville and Mitchell Trubisky, Nick Foles, Andy Dalton, and Justin Fields in Chicago.”

Could it be any worse?

 

[Tano]

“Robinson’s fight with poor quarterback play goes as far back as his Penn State days, when he played alongside Matt McGloin and Christian Hackenberg. In the NFL, it’s been a combination of Blake Bortles in Jacksonville and Mitchell Trubisky, Nick Foles, Andy Dalton, and Justin Fields in Chicago.”

Could it be any worse?

Crapola

 

[BrooklynRam]

He's going to bust out in a big way. Best season of his career coming up and he's already had great seasons. I smell a repeat.

 

[Merlin]

What's funny is pundits are still struggling with Kupp's season and it's impact to their precious wideout assumptions. They're still trying to process where Stafford fits on the QB side too. Wait until Robinson crashes that party. This is another meat 'n taters kind of wideout like Kupp. Another big, physical wideout who is serious about his craft and now is in the right offense for his skills.

If we're lucky the same shit will happen with Akers too. Maybe he'll stay healthy and give them another high production annoyance in horns that they don't know where to slot on their stupid effin lists.

 

[BrooklynRam]

What's funny is pundits are still struggling with Kupp's season and it's impact to their precious wideout assumptions. They're still trying to process where Stafford fits on the QB side too. Wait until Robinson crashes that party. This is another meat 'n taters kind of wideout like Kupp. Another big, physical wideout who is serious about his craft and now is in the right offense for his skills.

If we're lucky the same shit will happen with Akers too. Maybe he'll stay healthy and give them another high production annoyance in horns that they don't know where to slot on their stupid effin lists.

This Exactly. Bravo, Merlin

 

[Kupped]

What's funny is pundits are still struggling with Kupp's season and it's impact to their precious wideout assumptions. They're still trying to process where Stafford fits on the QB side too. Wait until Robinson crashes that party. This is another meat 'n taters kind of wideout like Kupp. Another big, physical wideout who is serious about his craft and now is in the right offense for his skills.

If we're lucky the same shit will happen with Akers too. Maybe he'll stay healthy and give them another high production annoyance in horns that they don't know where to slot on their stupid effin lists.

Kupp is a great litmus test for me when it comes to football talking heads.

If a guy dismisses him as a fluke or product of a "system"? I know he's not very much of a football guy.

 

[CGI_Ram]

Kupp is a great litmus test for me when it comes to football talking heads.

If a guy dismisses him as a fluke or product of a "system"? I know he's not very much of a football guy.

Yes. You probably saw it… a recent Kupp interview he spoke about how he works hard to make the CB opposite him test all their techniques… i.e. how he wins routes.

Kupp is special.

 

[PARAM]

The thing is "the Rams" aren't shopping Allen Robinson. Allen Robinson is shopping Allen Robinson because he approached the Rams for a trade. As far as OBJ, as soon as he stops reading Spotrac.com and just lets us fans do it, he'll sign with somebody. Because Spotrac rates his "market value" as 14 mil per and a 3 yr 50 mil contract. He ain't getting that from anybody IMHO, so when he comes to terms with that fact, he'll get a deal somewhere.

 

[thirteen28]

With no sign of an imminent deal, the Rams may need to entice a few organizations by dangling a draft pick attached to Allen Robinson.

Yeah, fuck that. We already got fleeced on the Ramsey trade, there is no need for us to give up a pick just to get rid of Robinson. They should have some sort of meeting of the minds and try to make it work next season instead. If it doesn't, they can say buh-bye at the end of the year with no huge cap ramifications.

 

[snackdaddy]

Its a shame Robinson didn't turn out like we thought. I suppose its better to cut bait now. He just never got on the same page with Stafford for whatever reason. A team like KC would probably benefit the most with him. Mahomes is good at making things happen when a play breaks down. Robinson would be a good fit there.

I'm a little cautious with OBJ. I know what he brings. And he had a nice rapport with Stafford. But what he's asking might make it hard to bring him back. If they can convince him to sign a deal with incentives, mainly being able to play, I think it would be good for both sides.

If Robinson leaves and OBJ doesn't return, Jefferson looks like he's ready to assume the WR2 role. He's got enough speed to be a deep threat. Runs good routes and has good hands.

I'm curious to see how much Tutu has improved. He did show flashes last year. Looked like someone with good hands and can track the ball deep.

 

[I like Rams]

Its a shame Robinson didn't turn out like we thought. I suppose its better to cut bait now. He just never got on the same page with Stafford for whatever reason. A team like KC would probably benefit the most with him. Mahomes is good at making things happen when a play breaks down. Robinson would be a good fit there.

I'm a little cautious with OBJ. I know what he brings. And he had a nice rapport with Stafford. But what he's asking might make it hard to bring him back. If they can convince him to sign a deal with incentives, mainly being able to play, I think it would be good for both sides.

If Robinson leaves and OBJ doesn't return, Jefferson looks like he's ready to assume the WR2 role. He's got enough speed to be a deep threat. Runs good routes and has good hands.

I'm curious to see how much Tutu has improved. He did show flashes last year. Looked like someone with good hands and can track the ball deep.

I'm starting to think it's not a connection thing with Staff, nor is it a oline problem. We had the same problem in 2021 with Staff distributing the ball. I believe it was week 4 against Carolina where Woods finally had a break out game with 150 receiving yds. His words after the game were that he was just "waiting til his number was called". Articles before the wk 4 game had reports of McVay saying that he needed to do a better job of calling plays to get Woods the ball. Unfortunately wk 4 was the only game that Woods was able to really produce, and he was our best receiver before that season. And now we saw a similar problem with ARob. I'm not sure what the problem is, but it needs to be addressed quick, bc I do not believe Kupp should be relied on as much as he was in 2021 if we plan to keep him healthy. Nor should he be the only target for our offense.

 

[oldnotdead]

I think he gets traded, probably on draft day. At his age a 5th or 6th round pick is all you might expect. With luck the Rams will clear $2M in cap. His $18M cap number makes no sense at this point. Jefferson has proved he can play X WR and he's faster. That allows them to play Atwell or Skowronek out of the slot (Y). With Jefferson, Kupp and Atwell they can threaten any secondary deep with multiple WRs.

If anyone is going to have a breakout year it will be Atwell IMO.

People see that over $14M in cap space and think they have a lot of room to make moves. But they overlook the price of all the picks the Rams have. The price tag right now is just under $10M to pay for their current projected draft class. Going into the season they will need at least $4-$5M in free cap for contingency signings. So trading Robinson and clearing $2-$3M makes a lot of sense.

 

[PARAM]

I think he gets traded, probably on draft day. At his age a 5th or 6th round pick is all you might expect. With luck the Rams will clear $2M in cap. His $18M cap number makes no sense at this point. Jefferson has proved he can play X WR and he's faster. That allows them to play Atwell or Skowronek out of the slot (Y). With Jefferson, Kupp and Atwell they can threaten any secondary deep with multiple WRs.

If anyone is going to have a breakout year it will be Atwell IMO.

People see that over $14M in cap space and think they have a lot of room to make moves. But they overlook the price of all the picks the Rams have. The price tag right now is just under $10M to pay for their current projected draft class. Going into the season they will need at least $4-$5M in free cap for contingency signings. So trading Robinson and clearing $2-$3M makes a lot of sense.

It's already been pointed out, it's not a 2 mil cap savings in a trade, it's more than 6 mil. And that 14+ million in cap space, minus whatever Copeland got is with 45 players. 6 more to come to 51, means only 6 of the 11 draft picks will have to be accounted for on the cap. That's like 5.014 mil. So even if Copeland got 2 mil, there's still 7 mil left plus any savings they get from trades or outright releases of the low hanging fruit. If they did trade Robinson, they'd have 13 mil + after the rookies are signed.

 

[FarNorth]

What's funny is pundits are still struggling with Kupp's season and it's impact to their precious wideout assumptions. They're still trying to process where Stafford fits on the QB side too. Wait until Robinson crashes that party. This is another meat 'n taters kind of wideout like Kupp. Another big, physical wideout who is serious about his craft and now is in the right offense for his skills.

If we're lucky the same shit will happen with Akers too. Maybe he'll stay healthy and give them another high production annoyance in horns that they don't know where to slot on their stupid effin lists.

I liked Robinson as much as anyone when he got him, but he wasn't in the right offense last year even when Stafford was on the field. Imo he is now too slow to break out. But if we can sign OBJ I would be thrilled to have AR on the field with him and Kupp. Still not enough speed, but Atwell and Jefferson could rotate.

As for Akers, maybe lightning could still strike, I hope so... but realistically there is just as good a chance that he will be injured or disgruntled than be the player we hoped for when he was drafted.

 

[HitStick]

Stafford, as much as I love him, has always been a “force it to the number 1 and forget you have a number 2” for most of his career. Megatron help facilitate this habit, and he found the same with Kupp

 

[Merlin]

I liked Robinson as much as anyone when he got him, but he wasn't in the right offense last year even when Stafford was on the field. Imo he is now too slow to break out. But if we can sign OBJ I would be thrilled to have AR on the field with him and Kupp. Still not enough speed, but Atwell and Jefferson could rotate.

As for Akers, maybe lightning could still strike, I hope so... but realistically there is just as good a chance that he will be injured or disgruntled than be the player we hoped for when he was drafted.

One of the most disappointing signings I can recall. It should have worked. This is why I think he couldn't grasp the offense, makes it easier to deal with my previous wrong take.

 

[Malibu]

My thoughts on Robinson is if he wants out and we get a fair deal fine, but if we can't get a fair deal then we should keep him.

His last year's demise was based on several factors. An atrocious OL, Stafford had no off the field throwing with him, the Kupp safety blanket factor (see Woods when Stafford came here) etc.

Now Robinson is totally in sync with Stafford, knows the Offense, the OL will be better. Are we all forgetting this guy was a baller you can't regress that much without reasons - last year there were plenty of reasons.

 

[I like Rams]

My thoughts on Robinson is if he wants out and we get a fair deal fine, but if we can't get a fair deal then we should keep him.

His last year's demise was based on several factors. An atrocious OL, Stafford had no off the field throwing with him, the Kupp safety blanket factor (see Woods when Stafford came here) etc.

Now Robinson is totally in sync with Stafford, knows the Offense, the OL will be better. Are we all forgetting this guy was a baller you can't regress that much without reasons - last year there were plenty of reasons.

I'm not sure where this "staff had no time with ARob in the offseason" comes from? The exact opposite is true. ARob was the talk of training camp bc he was catching everything Staff was throwing to him. There's even video evidence of it on youtube.


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[MachS]

I'm not sure where this "staff had no time with ARob in the offseason" comes from? The exact opposite is true. ARob was the talk of training camp bc he was catching everything Staff was throwing to him. There's even video evidence of it on youtube.


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We were all excited after the signing. We were all excited after training camp. But go look at the All-22 film from last year man, he got literally zero separation. Like zero. If he wasn't schemed open from route concepts he was hardly winning his matchup. I think his play has just fallen off a cliff the last two years. People said his terrible last year in Chicago was an anomaly but it obviously wasn't.

If McVay/Stafford couldn't get him going, then how do you think other teams value him? Such a bad situation for us with his contract, it's not surprising to me teams would want a pick to move him.